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Stream-ripping Is 'Fastest Growing' Music Piracy (bbc.com)

Stream-ripping is now the fastest-growing form of music piracy in the UK, new research has suggested. From a report: Several sites and apps allow users to turn Spotify songs, YouTube videos and other streaming content into permanent files to store on phones and computers. Record labels claim that "tens, or even hundreds of millions of tracks are illegally copied and distributed by stream-ripping services each month." One service alone is thought to have more than 60 million monthly users. According to research by the Intellectual Property Office and PRS For Music, 15 percent of adults in the UK regularly use these services, with 33 percent of them coming from the 16-24 age bracket. Overall usage of stream-ripping sites increased by 141.3 percent between 2014 and 2016, overshadowing all other illegal music services.

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  1. Re:But why? The quality MUST suck... by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Back in the day it was recording off FM onto cassette tape!!

    I did this VERY briefly early on...but also, early on, I noticed the sound sucked, and well...hard to always get the intro/outro of the song without the fscking DJ talking over it, or starting a new song over top of the last one....

    But at a young age...I and most of my friends were sold on good quality audio.

    We all worked, mowing lawns, baby sitting...later we got jobs washing dishes and bussing tables in HS.

    But starting about 12 years old...I went into a high end audio shop, and heard a McIntosh tube amp hooked to Klipschorn speakers and my jaw hit the floor.

    Starting from then...I earned and bought piece by piece as good of audio equipment as I could save and afford at the time...and have been trading up over all these years, till I now essentially have that first system I heard as a kid.

    Of course, too many loud concerts have made my hearing not quite as sharp as back then, but still...I love good audio.

    For the gym or car, sure..high quality mp3 is just fine, but for home...I want CD quality...usually I rip my stuff to FLAC and listen on the good stereo to that....

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  2. Re:But why? The quality MUST suck... by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The last few cars that I've owned boosted the volume as you sped up or slowed down. This is a much better technical solution than ramming saturated music down everyone's throats.

    And even my old-ass Sony tube TV has a dynamic range compression feature to help watch movies at low volume.

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  3. Re:But why? The quality MUST suck... by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No, cost is not a problem. The circuit is trivial and the trick can likely already be pulled off with the DSP electronics already present for tone control/equalization. This was even available in the analog days as a "loudness" knob.

    "Adoption" would happen more or less immediately if the music wasn't already compressed. It was widely adopted in ye olden days.

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  4. Re:But why? The quality MUST suck... by chipschap · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I doubt anyone here can truly differentiate between a lossless audio file and a reasonable MP3/AAC

    As someone who did professional audio engineering for quite a few years, I have to disagree --- sort of.

    First, you say a "reasonable" MP3. A "reasonable" MP3 is indeed hard to tell from a lossless file, but most MP3s aren't all that "reasonable" and can be pretty easily distinguished.

    My second caveat has to do with the listening environment. If you're listening on the Apple earbuds that came with your phone, you surely can't tell good from bad. If you listen on the JBL professional setup I had in my studio control room, you sure as heck can hear small differences.

    I do agree that many modern (and many somewhat older) mixes are way over-engineered. The engineers try to get them to sound acceptable in loud environments, in stereo and in mono, on crappy car systems and crappier earbuds, and so on ... and what loses out is listening in a good environment on good equipment. Note that I say "many" mixes, not "all" mixes. In particular, New Age seems to be mixed with more of a view to quality listening.

    Of course, taste is subjective. I'm sure some people like the sound of their Apple earbuds.

  5. The recording industry needs to look at itself. by mhollis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A good friend of mine got his CPA as an older college student. Then he went to work for the big CPA firms in NYC. They used him for auditing and then spit him out at the end of audit season (after having told him, "You play your cards right and we'll put you on track to be a partner." Yeah, as if!). One audit he did is worth noting.

    It seems this one former rocker whose group was filling the stadiums "back in the day" was accosted by a paparazzi and the rocker may have struck the paparazzi. He called his attorney when he got a letter from the alleged victim of his fist and asked for him to defend him. His attorney told him what it would cost to defend. The former rocker said, "But I'm broke!" His attorney said, "That's crazy—your music is still selling. In fact, my daughter just told me that she got your entire album from 1970-something on iTunes."

    "I haven't received a royalty check for five years from anyone!" replied the former rocker.

    His attorney, who drew up the contracts informed him that he had the "right to audit" the sales of his recordings. So, my friend Jim was hired to do the audit.

    Here is what he found out:

    • While they were a hot and up-and-coming group, the record company underreported (and under-paid) sales by 20%.
    • While they were filling stadiums and touring, the record company underreported sales by 35%
    • After the group split up and stopped producing music and stopped touring, the record company underreported sales by 40%, increasing to 100% over 15 years.

    To say the least, after the audit, the record company agreed to arbitration and wound up paying the members of the group unpaid moneys and had to pay interest to keep the story from the press. Jim never told me who the band was, but he did tell me that I would know right away who they were.

    So, the next time you see the recording industry whining about people stealing "their" music, understand that it's the artist's music you are stealing—if you are, indeed, illegally copying music. But also understand that the recording industry, themselves, are just as guilty—they blame you for what they, themselves do.

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