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Ask Slashdot: Are We Living In the Golden Age of Bailing? (nytimes.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report that makes a case of us living in an era where bailing has become just too common: It's clear we're living in a golden age of bailing. All across America people are deciding on Monday that it would be really fantastic to go grab a drink with X on Thursday. But then when Thursday actually rolls around they realize it would actually be more fantastic to go home, flop on the bed and watch Carpool Karaoke videos. So they send the bailing text or email: "So sorry! I'm gonna have to flake on drinks tonight. Overwhelmed. My grandmother just got bubonic plague..." Bailing is one of the defining acts of the current moment because it stands at the nexus of so many larger trends: the ambiguity of modern social relationships, the fraying of commitments (paywalled), what my friend Hayley Darden calls the ethic of flexibility ushered in by smartphone apps -- not to mention the decline of civilization, the collapse of morality and the ruination of all we hold dear. [...] Technology makes it all so easy. You just pull out your phone and bailing on a rendezvous is as easy as canceling an Uber driver. There are different categories of bailing. There is canceling on friends. This seems to follow a bail curve pattern. People feel free to bail on close friends, because they will understand, and on distant friends, because they don't matter so much, but they are less inclined to bail on medium-tier or fragile friends. Then there is professional bailing. This tends to have a hierarchical structure. A high-status person will frequently bail on a lower-status colleague, but if an intern bails on a senior executive, it is a sign of serious disrespect. What do you folks think?

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  1. David Brooks? Seriously? by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What do I think?

    I think Slashdot is posting articles from David Brooks, one of the world's worst columnists, on Brooks being annoyed nobody wants to hang out with him any more.

    That's what I think.

    What next? Tom Friedman on how we'll find out if the next iPhone is a success in the next six months, and what his cabbie thinks about that?

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    1. Re:David Brooks? Seriously? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Insightful

      'No, David. It's just you. Get a clue."

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    2. Re:David Brooks? Seriously? by Hussman32 · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is not only an American trait, the only place where I don't see it happening regularly is Japan..

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    3. Re:David Brooks? Seriously? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 3, Informative

      It happens in Germany, not so much, so. It happens far less in Spain, France, Italy. Because the dating and "going out" culture is completely different.

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  2. Reference to Betteridge's law coming in 3..2..1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    But in this case, the answer is yes.

    1. Re:Reference to Betteridge's law coming in 3..2..1 by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hah, you call that bailing! Back in my day bailing meant a day in field behind a trailer. Now you snowflakes wanna lay around on the couch eating Doritos and call it bailing, well, maybe think about where those Doritos come from and get up off your asses and do something hard and rugged!

  3. Bailing? by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    WTF? Bailing doesn't mean not showing up. It means leaving. Flaking means not showing up. The example in TFS even includes the example "gonna have to flake", it's not "gonna have to bail". If you're at the event, and you get a phone call from your bra, then you gotta bail, right?

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  4. Weak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think this post is terrible, I don't come here to read this type of worthless crap.

  5. I choose by nnet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bail on me once, shame on me. Bail on me twice, I won't acknowledge your existence anymore. Its simple fucking respect, if you make an arrangement, follow through. We're people, not stupid social media endpoints.

    1. Re:I choose by geekmux · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Bail on me once, shame on me. Bail on me twice, I won't acknowledge your existence anymore. Its simple fucking respect, if you make an arrangement, follow through. We're people, not stupid social media endpoints.

      How ironic you bring up social media, a place where humans are nothing more than a product.

      People used to value a real friendship. Now it's all about clicks, likes, and amassing as many "friends" as possible while pointlessly showcasing rampant narcissism, which for some fucking reason has become a valued commodity in society today. Attention Whore is a recognized profession that will probably be further validated by a Doctorate program soon.

      Social media has distorted the very definition of friend so much we now need to invent a new fucking word to better define what a true relationship between two humans really is. Then we need to change human behavior to highlight the value of simple fucking respect.

  6. Re:My view on bailing by Octorian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This attitude towards planning pretty much requires you to over-commit your resources, otherwise you'll frequently end up bored with nothing to do... Because "spur of the moment" planning fails horribly when the "spurs" of your life don't line up with the "spurs" of everyone else in your social group.

  7. Half hearted, and half assed by s.petry · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Bailing" is not a thing, personal responsibility and accountability are things. "Bailing" is a symptom. Computers have made us less accountable for our acts, and less responsible. The only aspect I would say is "new", is that these traits are promoted as good and righteous. Not by everyone, but have you ever "worked" in Silicon Valley? Have you ever attempted to debate UBI on this site?

    In the Military we called it slacking, and if you are a slacker in one area you will be a slacker in another. Basic human nature and psychology.

    Slackers have always been around. The only difference between today and 50 years ago is that slackers are being promoted as the new "norm".

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  8. The Golden Age of Slashdot by geekmux · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Are We Living In the Golden Age of Bailing?"

    No, clearly we're Living In the Golden Age of Slashdot, represented by showers. Clearly someone's taken a piss all over the concept of Stuff that Matters.

    I'd comment further, but I'm gonna bail instead...

  9. Re:this is stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People have always made tentative plans and when more important things in life come up, plans get changed.

    Not everything is new just because you are doing it on/over/under/next to a computer.

    Speaking as an old person, that's was generally not true. In the past failing to show was a big deal.
    If plans to meet/have dinner/ see a show were made, it could not be blown off due to "more important things" unless it were an emergency.
    In the past, it was only a tentative plan if it was stated to be a maybe, and on the day of the meet, it was no longer tentative. That's because changing plans was difficult for the other people because they could not easily contact other people as is possible today.

    If a person said they were going to meet you somewhere, it was pretty much guaranteed they would show barring something serious happening. There's two reasons for that. One is that before cell phone/texting, it was very difficult to contact your friends if they weren't at home or work. So if you stood him/her/them up, they would be sitting for a long time waiting for you, and likely worried that something bad did happen.
    For that reason, if you did not show and had not an actual emergency (i.e. something involving loss of blood), this was considered a moral failing. Everyone would soon know about it, and if it happened too many times you were likely to get ostracized. If you had a business relationship, they would seriously question whether you could be trusted at anything.

    The rise of bailing is not all that bad
    What is different now is that thanks to cell phones, you can easily contact the other people at any time to let them know you won't be there and they can go on without you. Or, an even bigger deal, they easily make other plans thanks to their being able to quickly contact other people.
    And thanks to texting, you can do it without even having the embarrassment of lying to their face. Modern phones bring a great deal of flexibility to our lives.

  10. The problem is YOU by petes_PoV · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If people prefer to spend their time watching crappy TV, rather than spending time with you, that just says that you're not very interesting.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I have better things to do than hang around here

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