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NASA Is Studying the Fungus Among Us Before Humans Take It To a New Planet (fastcompany.com)

From a new report: As humanity starts packing for a trip to Mars, NASA scientists are studying what not to bring along for the journey. In short, leave the fungus at home. NASA researchers created a closed habitat -- similar to where humans would have to live to survive long space travel or on a new planet -- and looked at fungi and how they grew, publishing their findings in the journal Microbiome. Fungi are "extremophiles" that can survive in the harshest conditions, but in the closed environment of a space station, they can wreak havoc. To see exactly what kind of fungi might colonize astronauts while they colonize Mars, researchers set up an Inflatable Lunar/Mars Analog Habitat, which simulates the closed environment of the International Space Station. They found that certain kinds of fungi increased in number while humans were living inside the habitat, and the weakened immune systems that come with living in a bubble make people more vulnerable to fungi.

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  1. Come On! by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Funny

    Come on, that's no way to talk about Donald Trump Jr!

    (I know I know, flamebait and off topic, but you only live once)

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    1. Re:Come On! by Tablizer · · Score: 0

      I know, flamebait and off topic, but you only live once

      Oh, I've been mod-murdered many dozens of times via jokes about He Who Shall Not Be Named.

    2. Re:Come On! by turkeydance · · Score: 2

      well, he's a Fun Guy. i'm living the dream.

    3. Re:Come On! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      We know that he comes from the same mold...

    4. Re:Come On! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a matter of time before there's a Marsgate, let's be realistic about ourselves. *Assuming we survive the few decades necessary to achieve that, clearly in question more each day.

    5. Re:Come On! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your post should be modded flamebait. Fungi play a key role in the recycling of organic material in the environment, building up the soil quality, forming symbiotic relationships with many plants to help them grow, and many species are darned good on a pizza or stir fry or stuffed & grilled.

      Apologize to the fungal kingdom.

    6. Re:Come On! by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're right. It was uncalled for. Fungi are a noble group, and in no way should be compared to Trumps.

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    7. Re:Come On! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A young moss took a lichen to a fun guy.

  2. No Mars Soon by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    Contamination risk in both directions is too high. A thorough automated or heavily quarantined survey of Mars' possible life will be needed before humans land. We have to be pretty damned sure there's no life on Mars before we risk ruining what's there. That's a lot of digging and sifting and lab work, possibly costing more than a human mission itself.

    1. Re:No Mars Soon by buchner.johannes · · Score: 1

      That's exactly what ESA's ExoMars mission will do.

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    2. Re:No Mars Soon by slick7 · · Score: 2

      Humans are the most virulent form of disease. We've done more damage to this planet, as well as to ourselves, than any other sentient being. No wonder no other beings will openly communicate with us; barring those that see us as part of the food chain.

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    3. Re:No Mars Soon by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Not that you can trouble yourself to identify the other sentient beings that have the ability to communicate with us but are choosing not to. Because that would mean more typing to back up your extravagant assertion.

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    4. Re:No Mars Soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's probably true of any species with the means to do it. Give any species the necessary intelligence to colonize a planet and exhaust its ecosystem, and they will do it beyond the point of no return. I'm not really into these "we're the devil" theories.

    5. Re:No Mars Soon by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      Humans are the most virulent form of disease.

      Meet the cure.

    6. Re:No Mars Soon by jezwel · · Score: 1

      How difficult is it going to be to declare Mars life-form free and therefore colonisable by humans? Even now we're discovery life in weird / harsh habitats on earth, so categorically declaring Mars a dead world would mean checking a sizeable portion of the planet, and down several inches or more of regolith as well.
      We will take life to Mars, and it will find a niche somewhere - guaranteed. Lichen, fungi, bacteria, something.

    7. Re:No Mars Soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Humans are the devil.

      However, as you say, a race of highly intelligent hamsters would also be the devil had they evolved and taken up alpha position on the planet instead of humanity.

    8. Re:No Mars Soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get that human progress freaks out luddites, but despite recent developments I'm still hopeful. The one big problem we have to solve in present day is the massive oil dependency of our civilization, and people should be working as hard as they can to find reasonable replacements in its various applications.

      But we're in an unique position to:
      * Give animals better life / more dignified deaths than those in wildlife (even though factory farming doesn't give a shit about that)
      * Fucking print meat, circumventing the need for present-day factory farming (once it's scalable)
      * Breed and encourage increase of cognitive abilities, as well as improve health of pets (even though some breeds are currently severely stunted)
      * Fucking writing genes and curing genetic-bound diseases.
      * Run Doom 1 in quantum computers

    9. Re:No Mars Soon by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

      Humans are the most virulent form of disease. We've done more damage to this planet, as well as to ourselves, than any other sentient being. No wonder no other beings will openly communicate with us; barring those that see us as part of the food chain.

      Another emotional response with pretensions of depth. Someone call the wambulance.

    10. Re:No Mars Soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's probably too late for that. We have sent many probes there already that could have brought bacteria, fungi, waterbears, etc.

  3. Someone quick, KEEP RMS AWAY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He go for that toe jam fungus honey!

  4. Fungurama? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a humongous fungus among us?

  5. Almost destroyed MIR by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Russian station, MIR, was almost over-run by fungus. http://rense.com/general8/mir....

    It was mutated by radiation and almost un-killable. Note that MIR was de-orbited and not all pieces burned up completely.

    Yes, that's right, somewhere in the world, there might exist a colony of mutant space fungus that the Russians tried and failed to kill.

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    1. Re:Almost destroyed MIR by atherophage · · Score: 1

      Can't beat them, use them. The "filamentous fungus Aspergillus fumigatus", can it be re-jiggered, MacGyver-like, to create longer, harder, stronger Daft Punk-like fibers to weave into clothing, or furniture? Humans have evolved with fungi. Will removing them have unintended consequences?

    2. Re:Almost destroyed MIR by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Soviets, not Russians. There's a big difference.

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    3. Re:Almost destroyed MIR by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Only a little.

    4. Re:Almost destroyed MIR by hawkfish · · Score: 2

      The Russian station, MIR, was almost over-run by fungus. http://rense.com/general8/mir....

      It was mutated by radiation and almost un-killable. Note that MIR was de-orbited and not all pieces burned up completely.

      Yes, that's right, somewhere in the world, there might exist a colony of mutant space fungus that the Russians tried and failed to kill.

      I just finished Geoffrey Landis' Mars Crossing in which the first American mission to Mars was taken out by athlete's foot. I thought it was a bit too tongue in cheek but now I'm worried.

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    5. Re:Almost destroyed MIR by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Uh, no? The Soviet Union was an empire, Russia is a country. I'm more than a little surprised to see Leftists, of all people, banging the drums for war with Russia. Hell, you were on their side until recently. What caused the big change? And don't say alleged election meddling because Obama attempted to alter the result of Brexit and you were all for that.

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  6. Batlle lost already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People will contaminate the mars soil whatever they try. Why not just give up an try spreading as many microbes as possible and hope that they find a balance.

    1. Re: Batlle lost already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agree. There are more interesting places in the solar system to study creation of life. Mars is great for studying evolution without competition (assuming some Earth organisms could take hold, which seems likely).

  7. Wrong, Mars is safe from contamination by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    Or did you miss the recent article that Mars is inherently self-sterilizing?

    If anything we can now me less careful about what we send to Mars, so it's easier to explore.

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    1. Re:Wrong, Mars is safe from contamination by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's self-sterilizing if we assume that life on Mars couldn't have found a way to deal with perchlorates. Extremophiles here on Earth demonstrate that life can evolve to survive in some pretty inhospitable and outright toxic environments.

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    2. Re:Wrong, Mars is safe from contamination by coofercat · · Score: 1

      I'd have to agree - it would be hugely arrogant to assume Mars is devoid of life, just because we've got some ideas about a few things we've observed from outside Mars. Once we've done a proper survey of every nook and cranny, cave and hole, then maybe we can say it, but until then not so much. We can't predict everything we find on earth, and so how could we do it for a planet of which we have a relatively minuscule understanding?

      I'd imagine the solution would be the sort of walk-in space suits Nasa were developing for the moon. The idea being that the suit is sterile on arrival, and stays outside the building throughout the visit. The human sort of steps into it and detaches it from the building to walk about. That way, the human stays wrapped in the suit, and the outside of the suit never comes into contact with humans.

    3. Re:Wrong, Mars is safe from contamination by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Generally not multiple extreme insults at such a high level though, on a time frame relevant to us for contaminating mars. The article SuperKendal linked to mentions perchlorates are activated by the high UV found on mars, and could kill bacteria within 30 seconds. And it sounds like that was just the effects of the activated perchlorates, not the UV too.

      Polyextremophiles are rarer than single extremophiles. D Radiodurans for example can survive in high radiation, extreme cold, vaccum, and high acidity. But I couldn't find anything about it being able to survive in activated perchlorates, so I'm skeptical it could survive in all of that simultaneously, let alone thrive. Should be easy to test first though.

      As far as mars life infecting earth, I think it would have opposite problem of not enough food and too much competition. There are earth bacteria that eat perchlorates here on earth, but perchlorates are also a lot less abundant than on mars

      I mean, it's worth studying before we risk it though. And given your username, I'll take your judgement on the matter...

    4. Re:Wrong, Mars is safe from contamination by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      If we assume that there was a time when Mars was far more hospitable (and it's not a big leap, considering we know that it must have once had a denser atmosphere, shallow seas and was considerably more geologically active), we can imagine life evolving there. When conditions began to deteriorate as the atmosphere thinned and the planet basically froze up, it would probably have lead to mass extinctions, but possibly not universal extinction. Unless the change in conditions was extremely rapid, it would have happened over millions of years, and that would certainly have been a long enough adaptive landscape for at least some populations to evolve ways of dealing with the harsher conditions.

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    5. Re:Wrong, Mars is safe from contamination by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Extremophiles here on Earth demonstrate that life can evolve to survive in some pretty inhospitable and outright toxic environments.

      "Toxic" can be relative. When photosynthesis got into high gear on Earth, at first a waste product, oxygen, was absorbed into the rocks. However, the rocks got saturated and the oxygen levels spiked in the atmosphere. Most microbes found oxygen toxic and died off.

      But a niche group learned to live with it, then incorporate it into their metabolism, and eventually even learned to "milk" it for higher metabolism, leading to the animals of the Cambrian Explosion.

    6. Re:Wrong, Mars is safe from contamination by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Sure, but we were talking about cross contamination. I think the environments are different enough to make that unlikely to happen is what I'm saying.

      It's of course not a simple scale of "tough life" vs "easy life" where life adapted to the conditions on mars is going to be extremely strong in earth's environment. Mars life would die on earth as rapidly as earth life would die on mars.

  8. Yeasts? by gtwrek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Pretty sure the article doesn't conclude "In short, leave the fungus at home". That's way too broad a generalization. (And while I'm not a microbiologist, I don't think even remotely possible).

    In any event, who'd want to go to Mars without a good source of one's favorite beverage? Or bread? Beer/Wine/Bread and many other our favorite food and drinks all
    depend on yeasts, which are in the fungus family.

    1. Re:Yeasts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In any event, who'd want to go to Mars without a good source of one's favorite beverage? Or bread?

      Try something more essential, like the several pounds of symbiotic yeasts and bacteria humans need to have in their guts. We won't survive without them...

  9. Deep Sea Diver Habitats by IonOtter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is very serious problem in deep diving habitats and environments. The constant moisture, combined with limited mobility and super-saturation of oxygen means that Athlete's Foot grows at a fantastic rate.

    Divers living in those habitats have to devote a significant amount of time to scrubbing, cleaning, drying and powdering their feet, or fungal infections will get out of control very rapidly.

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    1. Re:Deep Sea Diver Habitats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is very serious problem in deep diving habitats and environments. The constant moisture, combined with limited mobility and super-saturation of oxygen means that Athlete's Foot grows at a fantastic rate.

      Divers living in those habitats have to devote a significant amount of time to scrubbing, cleaning, drying and powdering their feet, or fungal infections will get out of control very rapidly.

      They could save an awful lot of time and money if they just peed on their feet in the shower.

  10. Like the Planet of the Apes by rmdingler · · Score: 1

    The futuristic, sentient Fungi overlords of the planet Keppler 452b will unlikely remember the hominoid space travelers who deposited their life forms on a planet with a very hospitable environment.

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  11. what happened to the potatoes? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    I saw a documentary where they were growing potatoes in Mars in shit. Whatever happened to that project, I wonder.

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    1. Re: what happened to the potatoes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You millennials are pretty slow-witted. If you spent less time exploring gender reassignment surgery options and inventing new pronouns, you would understand the difference between a documentary and a fiction movie. Marvin the Martian does not exist and if he did he would not grow potatoes in shit.

  12. Star Control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those of us who have played Star Control have known for 25 years that it is a bad idea for humans to face off against fungus in space.

    1. Re:Star Control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Juffo-wup is inevitable.

  13. Not so Fun Guy by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    This story is so depressing about a fun guy? Fun gi Fungi Fuge.

  14. "Trust the Fungus" by williamyf · · Score: 1

    John Leguizamo as Luigi Mario
    Super Mario Bros. The movie

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    1. Re:"Trust the Fungus" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trivia note: The origin of "a fungus among us" is not clear, but it was commonly used by 1950s teens to mean there is a character, culprit, or someone unusual in our midst. I first heard it much later on Sanford and Son as 'the fungus is among us'

      Other 50s teen slang;

      Germ warfare is kissing. Earth pads are shoes. Skull drag is to study, King George's jive is English, and the creep catalog is the yearbook., a coffee pot is the life of the party, Pucker Palace is a drive-in movie. Turn up the stereo means listen to me. A tourniquet is a wedding ring. Pony express means on a date, just you and the driver. A stage coach is a double date. A nest is a hairdo. Chrome-plated is all dressed up. A grody is a murgatroid, or a square also. Psyche it out means to think a problem through. Wave your wig is to comb your hair. Failed to orbit means you failed to get a date. It's been heaven but I think I'll jump for earth translates simply as the evening's over.

  15. So in other words ... by neoRUR · · Score: 1

    Life and Evolution are working as they should..

  16. The Bugs In Our Gut Halt NASA Mars Boondoggle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those pesky bugs in out gut and intestine are the rulers of Earth and when we shit them out on Mars, if, they would quickly mutate out of control and the whole planet including Elon's Idiots would be lost.

    This is the reason to save $100 Billion dollars and shutdown NASA Human Flight Programs.

  17. The point is we don't have to worry about contam. by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    It's self-sterilizing if we assume that life on Mars couldn't have found a way to deal with perchlorates.

    I'm not saying anything about the possibility of finding life there, I still think we'll find some - I'm just saying it means we really don't have to be as careful about every single spacecraft part that lands of Mars being totally sterile, because the *Earth* forms of life will not be able to survive for long there so they can't contaminate Mars.

    Until now every single spacecraft that has been intended to land on Mars has been meticulously sterilized. Some parts still will to avoid instrument contamination, but not the whole thing. Even the dust that builds up on the rovers is probably chock full of perchlorate...

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  18. just colonize mars they said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It will be easy they said.

  19. Quatermass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finally an explanation of The Quatermass Experiment.

    I don't underestimate the effects on our behaviour of the various bacteria, viruses and fungi who share our bodies even though they tell me there's nothing to worry about. I for one recognize our ancient fungal overlords.

  20. I fucking love Incubus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing else to add.

  21. Re: The point is we don't have to worry about cont by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, fortunately, as the article notes, we have scientists brilliant enough to simulate the ISS for us, just to make sure.

    Next up: my $1M grant proposal to simulate what I'd do with a million dollars.

  22. Re:The point is we don't have to worry about conta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I feel like the same statement was made in Jurassic park.

    All the same sex so there's no way they can contaminate earth!

  23. Our gut fauna alone is an issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The seas of bacteria that constitute the human body should be the single greatest concern. The impact of tourism on our own planet's ecosystems speaks volumes. If we don't wish to have an effect on the places we visit we shouldn't be going there in the first place.

  24. It's life, Jim ! But not as we know it ! by DrYak · · Score: 1

    It's self-sterilizing if we assume that life on Mars couldn't have found a way to deal with perchlorates. Extremophiles here on Earth demonstrate that life can evolve to survive in some pretty inhospitable and outright toxic environments.

    So you think a delicate life form which has spent millions of years to adapt to a perchlorates chemical environment (again, theoretically possible given the extremophiles on Earth) in an extremely cold climate (water frozen most of the time), etc. would thrive magnificiently inside a moist water-based 37 C (~100 F ?) body ?!?

    News flash: Your direct environment right here on Earth (like the dirt outside your house) is filled with countless species of bacteria which have adapted to it, and none of which bothers to infect you simply because they are optimized for outdoor conditions and not your body's entirely different set of conditions.
    Anything that has evolved and adapted to the even harsher conditions on Mars (it these exist, because for now we haven't found any. Then again, in *theory* it should be possible given earth's extremophiles) would be even further away from the human body conditions. It would *definitely* be completely out of its optimal conditions inside you.
    There's no realistic way you could credibly catch "The Mars Flu" and bring it back on Earth - unless mars way earth-like enough (it's not) so that life-form adapted to mars could find similar compatible environment on earth.

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  25. Does US's NASA care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't pollute Mars!!!

  26. No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh. I don't get it. Fungi live safely and necessarily on human bodies and on and in our food. I think if you really removed the microbes you wouldn't have a proper human anymore!!

    If we are sending our meaty bodies to mars, the fungi and the bacteria are going, too. There is no second option.