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HTC Keyboard Ads Likely an Error, But Damage is Already Done (androidcentral.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Ads in the stock keyboard app on a flagship smartphone added quietly via an app update, which then asks you to pay to remove them. You'd be hard pressed to come up with a more comically villainous thing for a phone manufacturer, or app developer, to pull on its users. Yet that's what's been happening to some HTC phone owners over the past day. HTC 10 owners seem to be worst affected (we're not seeing it on the newer U11 for what it's worth), with the ad bar taking up a good chunk of screen real estate. There's understandable outrage among HTC owners whose phones have started coughing up ads every time they open the keyboard. The consensus, obviously, is that this is not an OK place for ads to be appearing. In a statement, HTC said it was an error, and a fix is underway.

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  1. I can think of one thing quite easily. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    You'd be hard pressed to come up with a more comically villainous thing for a phone manufacturer, or app developer, to pull on its users.

    Systemd.

  2. I want my $40 back by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...said every HTC phone owner, ever.

  3. Summary by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's way too early in the morning for me to exert this much brainpower trying to decipher such a poorly worded summary.

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    1. Re:Summary by gnick · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's way too early in the morning for me to exert this much brainpower trying to decipher such a poorly worded summary.

      The summary. Posted to slashdot's front page. Added quietly by an admin. Which then asks for your time to parse it. You'd be hard pressed to come up with a more comically villainous thing for a news site, or an admin, to pull on its users.

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    2. Re:Summary by JoshuaZ · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you imagine it is being read by William Shatner it makes complete sense.

    3. Re:Summary by necro81 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Agreed. The first sentence is not actually a sentence by the usual rules (such as they are) that govern English. Where is the verb in that sentence? The second sentence is not much better - here the verb is constructed in the passive voice. The third sentence is some sort of dependent clause that has no business trying to stand on its own as a sentence.

      If all of this is so dastardly and important, don't make us work so damn hard to figure it out!

  4. An error? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not like you can just 'accidentally' code the framework which would support the ads to be played in the first place.

  5. Re:Stick with the iPhone by tripleevenfall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Obvious flamebait, but the amount of advertising on the Android handset I owned got to be so overwhelming that it was one of the major reasons I am back to iPhone, after having given it up hoping for a more open and functional platform. Turned out, it wasn't.

  6. Error my ass! by evanh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "HTC said it was an error, and a fix is underway" - With bullshit lines like that spewing forth every other day, is it any wonder people are fed up with the status quo?

    1. Re:Error my ass! by david_thornley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It seems more likely to me that HTC made a mistake in underestimating the pushback than in releasing the software.

      I am aware of where Android app revenue comes from. I also believe that basic functionality should not require ads without a prior agreement, and that ads should appear only in the apps that place them. The Android apps I use tend not to push ads on me, since I either pay for them or are conveniences for services I do pay for (like the Kindle app).

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  7. "It was an error" by NoZart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sure. Implementing all the code to display ads within the keyboard app just happened because the cat ran over the keyboard.
    Oh, you mean it was an error that this crap got rolled out? Thanks for informing me about how the future looks like for HTC customers, then.

    I used to love HTC products, now i avoid them.

  8. An error by necro81 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    HTC said it was an error, and a fix is underway

    Ads don't magically appear by dint of the universe being against us (although, the universe is against us). In order for those ads to appear, some poor developer had to be given the task of adding that feature. Then some other poor fools had to test it and qualify it across multiple hardware platforms. Then it had to get bundled into the software update, and then pushed out to users.

    My point is, there were many, many very intentional acts required for this to occur, and almost none of which could conceivably have been an accident or "error". This ass-hattery must be roundly called out and ridiculed. Probably there isn't any legal action indicated, but it might be nice for someone to try.

    1. Re:An error by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It was intentional, the error was they weren't expecting an outrage...

    2. Re:An error by pop+ebp · · Score: 4, Informative

      I believe it was an error. Although HTC does deserve part of the blame.
      You see, the "stock keyboard" was actually a third-party app, which is ad-supported by default.
      The HTC version is supposed to be a special ad-free version, but somehow during the latest update the app developers pushed the ad-supported version to HTC devices as well.

      If anything, this demonstrates the dangers of bundling apps that you don't directly control.
      And who's to say the ad-free version doesn't still track the user or collect personal information? If it wants it could collect all your passwords too!
      It was really poor judgement on HTC's part to use such an app for a sensitive component like the stock keyboard.

  9. "In error" by Lord+Lode · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oops, my finger slipped and accidentally all this code to display ads in a rectangular bounding box and get ads from ad servers and a working payment system that allows removing them!

    1. Re:"In error" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly this. This was planned and put in there. Not by any accident at all.

      You have to wonder what other treasures HTC have stuck into unremovable apps on their phones. Next up, a homeland/russian/chinese/korean/popular wannabe tracking module, configured just for your country for your telecoms provider or national security vendor or choice!

  10. Consumers are idiots by whoever57 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Any company that pulls this type of crap should quickly dive into bankruptcy as it loses customers*

    The reality is that most customers won't care.

    * Note: this was deliberate. As others have pointed out, you don't accidentally put ads into an app. Also, why wasn't it pulled immediately? This was a deliberate attempt to test the reaction to ads in the keyboard app.

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  11. Re:Stick with the iPhone by LVSlushdat · · Score: 5, Informative

    THAT, friends, is why you root the shit out of Android and then use an app like AdAway, which uses the /etc/hosts file to block ads, which is why root is required. I tried other adblockers that didnt use the hosts file and none worked worth a damn.. Before I rooted my phone, it was endless ads in EVERYthing, and of course, this crap was eating up my data like mad, for which I pay for what I use (am on Ting.com). Once I rooted and installed AdAway, no more ads, and my data consumption went down signifcantly...

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  13. Re:Stick with the iPhone by Dishevel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Funny.

    I have no ads anywhere other than in browser on sites that have them. Maybe it is because I choose decent apps and pay for them. Instead of downloading every piece of shit freeware on the face of the planet and then complaining about it.

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  14. Re:Stick with the iPhone by aaronb1138 · · Score: 4, Informative

    On Samsung phones, you can leverage Knox to get device administration without root. Adhell notably uses Knox and in addition to ad-blocking, it also allows freezing of preinstalled crapware.

    All of that said, obtrusive ads should be subject to similar laws as the "do no call" list. A $500 fine for each infraction of a "do not advertise" list would go a long way.

  15. Re:Whatya gonna do? by RotateLeftByte · · Score: 2

    It seems to be only in the USA that you have those stupid contracts.
    I on a SIM only deal and pay $15/month. The contract is a rolling one month, not two years and I can use any phone I want. I buy my phones from Pawn Brokers. They are nearly always unlocked but the carrier has to unlock it when asked.

    I don't know anyone who still uses a 2yr carrier contract.

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  16. Re:Stick with the iPhone by sexconker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    THAT, friends, is why you root the shit out of Android and then use an app like AdAway, which uses the /etc/hosts file to block ads, which is why root is required. I tried other adblockers that didnt use the hosts file and none worked worth a damn.. Before I rooted my phone, it was endless ads in EVERYthing, and of course, this crap was eating up my data like mad, for which I pay for what I use (am on Ting.com). Once I rooted and installed AdAway, no more ads, and my data consumption went down signifcantly...

    The problem with this is you lose access to a ton of apps that rely on "SafetyNet". Everything from Pokemon GO to AndroidPay to SnapChat uses SafetyNet and will refuse to run if it can detect that your system image has been modified or if it can detect that you have root access. (In SnapChat's case it only does this when you want to log in, so you can disable root, log in, then root again.) More and more apps are using SafetyNet, and it's fucking awful. It's a cat and mouse game to get root and still pass SafetyNet.

  17. Re:Stick with the iPhone by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    APK is that you?

  18. Re:Stick with the iPhone by AvitarX · · Score: 2

    Except the plan is really expensive if you don't actively manage data usage (or would be for me at least).

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  19. Re:Whatya gonna do? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

    The difference is a lot lower at the higher end. My partner has just replaced her ageing Nokia 1020 (really nice phone and the hardware is still pretty solid, but Windows Mobile 8.1 doesn't get security updates and has almost no third-party apps) with a second-hand Samsung. A similar iPhone is only 20-30% more expensive, but the killer is the lack of third-party OS support. When an iPhone stops getting security updates, it's basically dead. When a moderately popular Android device stops getting security updates, you can install LineageOS on it and it remains useable (my first-gen Moto G is older than her Nokia and a lot slower, but it's still getting fortnightly updates from LineageOS and I expect to keep using it until it physically dies).

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  20. Re:Stick with the iPhone by nnull · · Score: 2

    Right, meanwhile, Apple won't even let you use a real adblocker because of their locked in Safari browser and you're forced to deal with hell from websites that abuse the crap out of it. Granted it's not as bad as a locked-in Android phone, but it's still quite annoying.

    I'll stick to my rooted phones where I can remove all the ads, remove the malware and actually have a real firewall on my phone. Also, I like being able to stream music from youtube with the screen off, where a locked Iphone or locked Android phone cannot do unless you root/jailbreak.

    If and when Google wants to go to the Iphone model with their recent Android lockin BS and spying, I'll just go back to a dumb phone. I still have my old Nokia phone that can keep a charge for over a week and works great.

  21. Re:Stick with the iPhone by Dishevel · · Score: 2

    Because I am capable of making my own decision of what I do and do not want on my phone. I do not need a dead fag with a turtle neck to tell me what I want in a phone.

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