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US Increases Number of H-2B Visas By 15,000 (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: President Donald Trump has said he's going to set more limits on the H-1B visa program, which allows tens of thousands of technology workers into the U.S. each year. But yesterday, the Department of Homeland Security moved to expand another type of visa, the H-2B, which allows lower-skilled workers in on a seasonal basis. The Department of Homeland Security said yesterday it is going to allow an additional 15,000 workers to come in under the H-2B visa category, which is typically used by U.S. businesses in industries like tourism, construction, and seafood processing. The program normally allows for 66,000 visas, split between the two halves of the year. That means the DHS increase, announced yesterday, represents an increase of more than 40 percent for the second half of 2017. Businesses can begin applying for the additional visas right away, as long as they attest under penalty of perjury that their business will "suffer irreparable harm" if it can't employ additional H-2B workers in 2017. The expansion is a temporary one, and it only applies to the current year.

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  1. Bamboozled again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    LOL. You got conned by an orange conman you dumbasses.

  2. Re:In Case You're Wondering How This Benefits Trum by enjar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The H-2B visa is used extensively by Trump's own businesses, including his Mar-a-Lago resort in South Florida. During the presidential campaign, Trump explained his use of H-2B visas by saying that "getting help in Palm Beach during the season is almost impossible."

    "... at the wage and benefit levels we are offering"

  3. Re:Rust Belt by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    H1Bs puts a deflationary pressure on the market, while the savings go toward the 1% with the H1B holders wiring money back over seas. This does NOTHING to help the lower and middle class Americans on US soil. The H1B program ought to be scrapped in its entirety unless serious reform is made to the program to prevent the exploitation currently going on with it.

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  4. Re:Rust Belt by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Setting aside the difficulty of giving such preferential treatment to a particular region, it won't really help. The problem isn't actually the contrast between the success of Silicon Valley vs. the implosion of the Rust Belt. The problem is actually more about the success of urban areas vs. the implosion of rural areas. And allowing more H1Bs in rural areas, aside from being difficult to enforce, would be ineffective.

    You can have technology startups in any number of cities, but you aren't likely to see many in rural areas. First, because the infrastructure might not be available to support it. Second, because educated tech workers increasingly want to live in more urban areas. Third, because there's a lot of demand for specialized workers, and a fair amount of turnover, which means you need a high population density, which runs entirely contrary to the idea of a "rural area".

    And that's not even dealing with the question of whether H1Bs are good for American workers.

    You can't just have the government enforce cheap labor in an area and expect that companies are going to flood in. Cheap labor is great, but a lot more goes into running a company than that.

  5. Re:In Case You're Wondering How This Benefits Trum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Look, it is improper and economically devastating to pay low-end service workers high-end salaries. Competing for them via wages/benefits would drive our costs through the roof, which would in turn make our services so expensive that nobody could afford them.

    The owners are sure as hell not going to operate at a loss, so, increasing the labor supply is the only way we can keep the show running at all.

  6. B.S. by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    they'll go where the money is. Meanwhile pissing off rust belt employees is what cost Hilary the election (our demented politics means a few thousand people decide the outcome of presidential elections).

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  7. Tell me: by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tell me how importing 15,000 more foreign workers in any way shape or form helps "Make America Great Again"???

  8. Re:Good, I'm glad by readin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Free markets are great. One of the benefits is they keep commodity prices low, which is a good thing unless the work you do is a commodity.

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  9. Re:I worked at an amusement park through college by sr180 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > For work like trash collection, it was difficult getting people, both domestic and foreign, to apply for those jobs. In some of these H2-B cases, these are actually jobs Americans don't want.

    Because the free market has decided that the pay is too low. H2-B is just to keep wages low.

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  10. Re:In Case You're Wondering How This Benefits Trum by gravewax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    yeah I am sure a couple of bucks ontop of the $2000 a night bill for Trumps golf club visitors would be devastating to their clientele.

  11. Re:My solution? by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You get government benefits, and there is an H2B job available, you take that job or lose your benefits. It's the whole "get paid to not work" that makes this kind of BS possible. You wanna watch TV in an apartment instead of watch street traffic from a refrigerator box? Get a fucking job. Disabled? I'm sure there is an H2B job somewhere you can take.

    That's bullshit. That there are people who exploit loopholes in welfare, that does not imply the majority are. I mean, for fuck's sake, we have families of serving members of the military depending on food stamps to make ends meet.

    The majority of people who depend on some type of welfare are already fucking working. I mean, shit, Walmart has a program for his workers (full time and part time alike) on how to apply for welfare benefits to make ends meet. That should tell you something.

    There are people in the Palm Beach area that would do these H2B jobs. They are simply not being hired. This isn't any different from companies skipping Americans and legal residents over H1B workers for jobs locals could do.

    The only difference is that The Great Orange One is doing it, so that's all fine because somehow 'MURKA NUMMR WUN!