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Chromium To Get Support For MP3 (browsernative.com)
An anonymous reader shares a post: Chromium, the open source project behind Google Chrome, Opera and several other browsers, is going to support MP3. This would enable users and websites to play MP3 files in Chromium browser. A Chromium contributor informed about this, "We have approval from legal to go ahead and move MP3 into non-proprietary codecs list." The MP3 support in Chromium is targeted for version 62.
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"This would enable users and websites to play MP3 files in Chromium browser."
Um... yeah...
Wine just announced it fixed the last compatiblity issues and Notepad is now a Platinum-certified app.
Notepad was rated as "Platinum" as of Wine 1.1.36. https://appdb.winehq.org/objec...
Wine 1.1.36 released on January 8th of 2010. https://source.winehq.org/git/...
Whoosh?
The MP3 format seemed to slowly go away with the move to streaming services.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
That's great and all, mp3 no longer patent encumbered etc etc, but why have we felt the need to shovel every possible format into the browser?
My computer has about 390235405 programs that know how to play mp3 files, and 2904451 which can play more or less any audio or video format of the past 30 years. I always configure to use one of them. Also that way I can separately apparmor them in a way more restrictive than the browser can get away with.
Firefox (and maybe other browsers) contain their own pdf displayer, for the love of Moses! That's a huge attack surface, and has caused vulnerabilities aplenty.
Maybe the world should think more about the philosophy of "do one thing and do it well". Of course sometimes the browser's support uses the same library as a standalone display tool, but often such as with the PDF case they do not, and the builtin ones are slow as a snail and don't work very well. Yeah you can reconfigure to use your own... but the default should be to use whatever your OS offers up as the default viewer for some MIME type.
The browser does not have to contain every ability ever. That just makes it a larger attack surface.
If by 'whoosh' you mean the sound of a joke deflating, then yes, whoosh!
What miracle of patent law has produced this marvel? Oh... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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Wine just announced it fixed the last compatiblity issues and Notepad is now a Platinum-certified app.
Well that's up to the WINE project... if the problem is patents, all you can do is wait. Besides there's nothing wrong with a high bit rate MP3, except that it's maybe a MB or two bigger than an equivalent AAC. If it lacked quality it would be different.
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the default should be to use whatever your OS offers up as the default viewer for some MIME type.
So always use the operating system's pack-in browser? For several years, "the default viewer for some MIME type" on the majority of newly purchased PCs for values of "some MIME type" equal to "text/html" was Microsoft Internet Explorer 6. If relying on operating system components known to be deficient were a good practice, we'd be using NetCaptor or other wrappers for Trident and its successor EdgeHTML instead of Firefox and Chrome.
And on stock macOS, Ogg isn't among the containers, and Vorbis isn't among the codecs, that Core Audio can read. This means "the default viewer for some MIME type" for values of "some MIME type" equal to "audio/ogg" raises KeyError.
I've got some old postage-stamp sized videos to watch, dammit!
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Besides there's nothing wrong with a high bit rate MP3, except that it's maybe a MB or two bigger than an equivalent AAC.
When you're paying $5 to $10 per GB for satellite or cellular Internet access, "a MB or two" begins to add up over the course of a triple digit hours per month of streaming.
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Can someone explain me why MP3 are already working when open with Chrome?
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MP3 certainly isn't a modern, top-tier format. But there's an awful lot of legacy mp3 data out there, so it's good to be able to take advantage of that in a free and open browser.
One nice thing about patents, I suppose, is that we do have time on our side. With the volume of tech that's being patented, the low-hanging fruit has largely been snapped up (for example, I believe Amazon's One-Click patent expires very soon), and in another few decades, most of the formats we now use (like MP4 video) will also be free and clear. It won't be the latest and greatest, but at some point, we're going to run into some hard limits about how far we can compress video as well. Eventually, it won't be worth patenting new formats that can compress video 2% more than the previous well-established format, and ALL formats will be patent free. Eventually.
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It's a nostalgia kick. Remenber when web sites would play sounds in the background in IE4 using the tag? You're going to just LOVE those audio ads that will play when you go to a web site and you can't figure out which tab is the culprit. Makes as much sense as
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For these metrics, how did you work out who was black?
If you care about bandwidth that much just use Opus.
there's nothing wrong with a high bit rate MP3, except that it's maybe a MB or two bigger than an equivalent AAC. If it lacked quality it would be different.
It lacks quality. Even on regular gear with my bad 39 years old ears I can ABX 320kbit MP3 on specific samples, trained people can do so on typical (rather than specifically chosen) MP3s.
On the other hand, 128kbit Opus is fully transparent in quiet rooms on expensive gear, while 96kbit is enough for regular listening conditions. OGG and AAC are somewhat worse, but not drastically so.
There's no reason to use MP3 unless you suffer from ancient software you can't update.
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Every modern browser indicates which tabs are playing sounds by putting a little speaker icon on the tab, and I think they also all allow you to mute them by clicking the same speaker icon.
So no, finding out which tab is making noise is no longer an issue.
They're also smart enough that if the tab stops playing sound (e.g., paused), the speaker icon disappears, so only tabs actively playing sound now are shown. And the mute status is held per-tab until it's closed, so if you mute it, it stops, then starts playing sound again, it comes back still muted.
I just converted a half gig of .wma to mp3, so that a buddy could actually play them on a phone without installing 3rd party software (which would complicate things even more)
went from 128K wma to 160K mp3, as at least mp3 is easy to understand and LAME is easy to understand. We deleted a couple albums of crud to make room, he's better off even though a bit of space is wasted but in the end not too much room is taken.
It's stupid that phones don't support wma, as that's a widespread enough legacy format. wma falling out of patent protection will be a useful thing. Even flv video in a way. Heck, wmv was pretty decent in the day and a crap ton of content was wmv or flv in the 2000s.
Did you try MP2? Really, MP2 has a short time window whereas MP3 has a bigger one and so does AAC I think.
So, 320K and 384K MP2 might do the job.
It would be nice to see Ogg/Opus (and even it's predicessor Vorbis) be as widely used as proprietary codecs. Is the world so commercialized that this kind of thinking is impossible though?
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Indeed.... Its every bit as exciting as news from 7 years ago
We didn't have tabs back in IE4.
There's no reason to use MP3 unless you suffer from ancient software you can't update.
Or have a car stereo which plays MP3s and no other compressed audio file. Or a DVD/BluRay player. MP3 is like JPG: It's a "good enough" format that is guaranteed to play just about anywhere.
But, yes, I'm disapointed that even high end players like Astell & Kern KANN do not support OPUS files (while supporting crazy formats like DSD256); it's nice to have 12kbps perfectly clear sounding spoken word.
As if that sucker wasn't fat enough already...
It lacks quality. Even on regular gear with my bad 39 years old ears I can ABX 320kbit MP3 on specific samples, trained people can do so on typical (rather than specifically chosen) MP3s.
I find that very hard to believe. Which encoder settings did you use? Did you do proper double-blind ABX tests?
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Sure you did - just had to use the MyIE (later Maxthon) add-on. Introduced tabs to IE in IE4.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Last I tried, I was able to reliably ABX 128 kbps Opus vs. lossless (sourced from CD rip of a single track) nine times in a row with a decent pair of studio headphones. That being said, it's really hard to tell the difference in normal usage. Opus is quite a versatile codec. I hope to see hardware codec support in consumer devices.
I haven't yet investigated how well Opus handles inter-sample peaks, though MP3 is somewhat infamous for failing in this area vs. AAC.