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'Apple's Refusal To Support Progressive Web Apps is a Detriment To Future of the Web' (medium.com)

From a blog post: Progressive Web Applications (PWAs) are one of the most exciting and innovative things happening in web development right now. PWAs enable you to use JavaScript to create a "Service Worker", which gives you all sorts of great features that you'd normally associate with native apps, like push notifications, offline support, and app loading screens -- but on the web! Awesome. Except for is one major problem -- While Google has embraced the technology and added support for it in Chrome for Android, Apple has abstained from adding support to mobile Safari. All they've done is say that it is "Under Consideration." Seemingly no discussion about it whatsoever.

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  1. Who uses Safari? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Don't Apple users use Chrome also? Now's a good time to start if they want all these new gimmicks. I say we should stick with good old basic HTML, or even go back to Hypercard...

    1. Re:Who uses Safari? by InvalidsYnc · · Score: 2, Informative

      I believe that Chrome on iOS is still using the same underlying technologies of Safari, not 100% certain that it is a completely separate code base there. More like a skinning.

  2. Lots of people use Safari. More than use Firefox. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Despite being a relatively minor product from Apple, and one that these days only really runs on macOS or iOS, it turns out that a lot of people use Safari.

    According to recent browser stats, iOS Safari has about 10% of the browser market.

    This is well above Firefox for Android's 0.03% (yes, that's right, it's way less than even just 1%!) share of the market.

    macOS Safari has about 2% to 3% of the market.

    To put that into perspective, macOS Safari has more users than Edge does (which has about 1.5% of the market).

    Even Firefox, which also runs on macOS, in addition to many other platforms that Safari doesn't currently support (like Windows, Linux, *BSDs, Solaris, and so on), only has about 4% to 5% of the market.

    While Chrome is clearly the dominant browser, it's safe to say that Safari is now the second-most used browser across all platforms.

    Firefox has made itself irrelevant, by totally dropping the ball on mobile and by driving away so many of the users of desktop Firefox.

    Most web designers today test in Chrome, Safari and IE/Edge. More and more of them are ignoring Firefox just because its share of the market has fallen so much. Firefox has essentially become a "dead" browser in the eyes of many web developers and web users.

  3. Re:Loading screens. by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Informative

    Jon Blow talks about this -- Why does it take Photoshop about 7 seconds to display your image on a modern computer???

    Jonathan Blow "Making Game Programming Less Terrible" Talk at Reboot Develop 2017

    > How the fuck did we get here 2017?

    Lazy programmers who don't giving a fuck about the user experience. i.e. Bloated C++ and OOP as opposed to DOD (Data Orientated Design.)