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Russia Bans VPNs To Stop Users From Looking at Censored Sites (cnn.com)

Russia is cracking down on software that allows users to view internet sites banned by the government. From a report: President Vladimir Putin has signed a bill that prohibits services, including virtual private networks (VPNs), that enable users to skirt government censorship efforts. The law will take effect on November 1. Russian internet regulator Roskomnadzor maintains a blacklist of thousands of websites. Leonid Levin, chairman of a parliamentary committee on information policy and communications, said the law signed by Putin does not "introduce any new restrictions and especially no censorship." "My colleagues only included the restriction of access to information that is already forbidden by law or a court decision," he told state news agency RIA Novosti earlier this month.

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  1. Dear Leader Putin Does What He Likes by Maritz · · Score: 1

    Does he have any children? Might be interesting for Russians to see who's in charge after he leaves office (sorry, I mean when he dies).

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    1. Re: Dear Leader Putin Does What He Likes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Putin has an estimated net worth of 200 billion with all the money he's squirreled away from bribes and taking money off the top of govt contracts.

      His family will not need to be publicly in charge to be in charge.

    2. Re: Dear Leader Putin Does What He Likes by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Call him what he is; the world's most powerful crime lord in history. Who do you think the Russian Mob answers to?

    3. Re:Dear Leader Putin Does What He Likes by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

      Old Soviet Joke:

      Can the son of a general become general himself?
      Yes, of course he can.
      Can the son of a general even become a marshal?
      Not if the marshal has a son, too.

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    4. Re: Dear Leader Putin Does What He Likes by Nehmo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Putin has an estimated net worth of 200 billion with all the money he's squirreled away ...

      That actually is a classic example of fake news. Hermitage Capital Management Founder Bill Browder called him the "Richest man in the world" when speaking to U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee, and all of the Time Warner etc. media carried articles amplifying the statement. Usually, they said Bezos and Gates together didn't come close to Putin's wealth. Nonetheless, the Forbes most recent list of richest in the world https://goo.gl/NvqgGk puts Gates in the top slot.
      The trick is that Putin's wealth is secret!

      Russia has things worthy of criticism. The soon-to-take-effect VPN ban is a good one. But Putin being super, super rich is just BS.

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    5. Re:Dear Leader Putin Does What He Likes by Nehmo · · Score: 1

      I think he have a daughter but I highly doubt she would like to follow him so probably his next best hunchback will be the anointed.

      I don't see his daughter as being in the game either.
      He just answered that question in a Q&A session. He answered that people want leaders to choose a successor, but in the end, it's up to the people.
      https://www.usnews.com/news/wo...
      “the successor to the president is determined only by the Russian people in the course of democratic elections, and no one else.”
      https://www.rt.com/politics/39...
      It's revealing to compare the two reports of the same event.

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    6. Re: Dear Leader Putin Does What He Likes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      There's always one of those. One fucking anonymous smartass.

      If the U.S. governement was anywhere as bad as Putin and his crime family, Stephen Colbert would be dead of polonium 210 poisoning by now.

      Try to disparage, insult, or throw accusations at the U.S. president or government, what will happen to you ? Nothing. Or maybe the orange clown will tweet an insulting, sexist or racist comment about you.

      Try to disparage, insult, or throw accusations at Putin, you'll end up arrested, charged with some bogus "fraud" accusation and imprisoned. Keep it up, and you'll end up dead in some accident, or assassinated by a supposed opposition militant or tchetchen terrorist who'll end up conveniently shot dead by the glorious police force of the magnificent leader Putin.

    7. Re:Dear Leader Putin Does What He Likes by unixisc · · Score: 1

      He divorced in 2013, but has 2 daughters from that marriage. Relations w/ one of them seems estranged. One of them is married into the family of a co-owner of Rossiya Bank, and is estimated to be worth $2B, so wouldn't need daddy's money. Dunno about the other.

    8. Re: Dear Leader Putin Does What He Likes by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 3, Informative

      Forbes has a policy of not including "rulers and dictators" on its various lists of the Worlds's Billionaires.

      ...Forbes has long separated rulers and dictators from our annual rankings of the World’s Billionaires, distinguishing between personal, entrepreneurial wealth and wealth derived largely from positions of power, where lines often blur between what is owned by the country and what is owned by the individual. That is why rulers such as the King of Thailand, the Sultan of Brunei and Dubai’s Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum are not listed among the world’s billionaires, though we have estimated that each controls an 11-figure fortune.

      source

      So, you can't assume anything from his absence. And since Putin's declared wealth is so paltry, proving the existence of Putin's secret nest egg is likely to be difficult and dangerous.

    9. Re: Dear Leader Putin Does What He Likes by dddux · · Score: 1

      And how do you know that? Are you a Russian? Just wondering.

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    10. Re:Dear Leader Putin Does What He Likes by KingBenny · · Score: 1

      apparently yes, but i dont think you'll get anywhere near them :D might i recomment "the putin interviews" ... thats some eye opening five episodes of putin in your face, call him what you will but he did it, i dont think russia is that easy a place to manage really the series is REALLY worth checking its a grand piece by Oliver Stone, quite ... modded 'informative' lol

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  2. What a bunch of BULLSHIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's all about censorship, and detecting and punishing dissidents, of which I'm sure there are many. Putin is even less trustworthy than the communist Chinese government, and more ruthless and bloodthirsty to boot. I feel genuinely sorry for anyone who is a Russian citizen.

    1. Re: What a bunch of BULLSHIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      VPNs are illegal for evading the Iron Firewall but I doubt that would be applied to visiting business people connecting to their offices. Of course there's always the risk that it could be if you offend someone in power, like any other third world country with vague laws, flexible courts and corruption ingrained from top to bottom. One more reason not to do business with Russia.

  3. Russophile apologists and trolls inc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Take a shot every time you see whataboutism (America does it too)

    Take two shots for every mention of snowflakes and SJWs.

    Take 3 shots for mention's of Hillary's emails.

    1. Re:Russophile apologists and trolls inc. by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Your very mention of snowflakes and SJWs, and Hillary's emails in this context count as 2 "whataboutisms" here (2 shots) in addition to the mentions themselves, which adds 2 and 3 shots respectively.
      You're due for 7 shots, ya alky.

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    2. Re: Russophile apologists and trolls inc. by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I don't normally drink, but this game sounds tempting, I'm pretty sure it would kill me by alcohol poisoning.

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  4. Banning VPN's is in style by shuz · · Score: 4, Informative

    This apparently coincides with a crackdown in China. The BBC is running a story about Apple pulling VPN's from its app store.

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    1. Re:Banning VPN's is in style by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      And this, right here, is a prime example of why Apple's walled garden is fundamentally antithetical to freedom. China and Russia would never be able to ban VPNs on Android phones, because you can trivially download them from somewhere else and sideload them. Apple's "App Store apps only" design plays right into the hands of authoritarian governments and makes possible a degree of control that could only have been dreamed about in the pre-lockdown era of computing.

      Apple's management should be ashamed of themselves.

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    2. Re:Banning VPN's is in style by WCMI92 · · Score: 1

      Problem with that is malware. Malware authors are criminals. And an awful lot of them are from Russia . Ironically.

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    3. Re:Banning VPN's is in style by phayes · · Score: 2

      I knew somebody was going use their own prejudices to turn Russia's making VPN's illegal into it being apple's fault. Thanks for being _that_ person...

      Russia didn't just pass a law making the sale of VPN software on an App Store illegal, they passed a law making their use on phones in Russia illegal.

      Given how jackbooted Russia's enforcement is turning, spot checks on people's phones to check for the presence of VPN software is beyond likely. So, mr Android zealot, how will the absence of a walled garden make it any better when android phone owners get told to hand over their devices and unlock codes so that an intensive scan can be performed to make sure that no illegal software is present? Are you naive enough to think that the attempts that some will make to hide their use of VPN software will _NOT_ be noted and used to condemn the people attempting to do so?

      Ah, but you quite visibly think that you're smarter than everyone else, it's Apple's walled garden that's the problem, not Putin's repressive regime...

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    4. Re:Banning VPN's is in style by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      Didn't some American say something about those who would trade freedom for temporary security deserve neither? I mean sure, malware is a problem but so is the manufacturer literally telling you what you can and can't do with your own device, guided by the "friend" government.

    5. Re:Banning VPN's is in style by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      No, authoritarianism has always been in style, it's that it finally caught up with technology.

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    6. Re:Banning VPN's is in style by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      The general concept is applicable I would say. If you want to hand over your freedom to a company to handle the "security" on your behalf, you don't get to complain when it serves you up on a platter to the powers that be.

    7. Re:Banning VPN's is in style by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      I knew somebody was going use their own prejudices to turn Russia's making VPN's illegal into it being apple's fault. Thanks for being _that_ person...

      No, it's not Apple's fault that VPNs are illegal in Russia. It's Apple's fault that people aren't able to choose to violate a law that intrinsically violates basic human rights.

      Given how jackbooted Russia's enforcement is turning, spot checks on people's phones to check for the presence of VPN software is beyond likely.

      That's completely irrelevant. It should be the user's choice whether to take that risk, and Apple is denying them that right.

      So, mr Android zealot

      Actually, you're completely wrong on that point. I'm an iOS user and developer who previously worked at Apple for almost thirteen years, and I pushed back internally over how hard it was for users to install software from outside the App Store even back when I worked there. You don't have to be an anti-Apple zealot to call Apple on the carpet for their bad decisions.

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    8. Re:Banning VPN's is in style by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Problem with that is malware. Malware authors are criminals. And an awful lot of them are from Russia . Ironically.

      I'm not saying it should be trivial to sideload software. But it should be possible without having to download Xcode, get a developer account, and use cryptic commands in Terminal to manually re-sign a package (in such a way that then fundamentally prevents it from sharing data with the original app if you have an old version installed already and lost the ability to upgrade it).

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    9. Re:Banning VPN's is in style by antdude · · Score: 1

      I wonder when USA will do the same. :/

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    10. Re:Banning VPN's is in style by Vitus+Wagner · · Score: 1

      I suspect UK would be first. Theresa May already said something about "Making Britain world leader in the Internet control".

  5. Further questioning by TimMD909 · · Score: 1

    When questioned further if this could be used to silence free speech and be abused by the government, Levin was quoted as saying, "Nothing to see here. Move along."

  6. Countries that block sites: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    1. United Kingdom
    2. China
    3. USA (ice seizures)
    4. Russia

    1. Re:Countries that block sites: by John.Banister · · Score: 2
    2. Re:Countries that block sites: by Nehmo · · Score: 1

      The average person in America is so brainwashed, they still believe this is the Land of the Free. The fact that we have the highest incarceration rate is irrelevant because those incarcerated people are criminals.

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    3. Re:Countries that block sites: by sky_khan72 · · Score: 1

      Uhmm, maybe he/she might be living in Turkey? You know, wikipedia itself is still blocked here.

  7. And...Coming Soon! by Cornwallis · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...to a United States near you!

    1. Re:And...Coming Soon! by phayes · · Score: 1

      Have any proof to back up that hyperbole? Naah, didn't think so.

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    2. Re:And...Coming Soon! by phayes · · Score: 1

      "I would suspect" != proof, just more hyperbole.

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  8. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They've had several generations to normalize to the fact that they live somewhere where there are no 'freedoms' to speak of. I get the impression that many of them, presented with 'freedom', wouldn't even know what to do with themselves. Their country is run by thugs and is rife with corruption, from the lowliest beat-cop all the way up the food chain to Putin. I'd imagine the last thing the average Russian citizen wants to do is attract attention to themselves.

  9. Vyzov prinyat! by radarskiy · · Score: 1

    Vladmir is a funny guy

  10. Use Netflix? by deesine · · Score: 1

    This isn't just a government thing. Netflix has been blocking VPN's for at least a year. Amazon Video did for a while, but now it's ok. Oh, and many Youtube videos cannot be served to my VPN.

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    1. Re:Use Netflix? by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Netflix has to attempt to stop distribution beyond contract regions by contract. Netflix doesn't care about cons but the mpaa does and they have massively headache rules of which country can view what content at what time and in what format.

      Want Netflix to drop their vpn rules? Get the mpaa to work up a 21 st century distribution model for content taking in the fact that when a company releases a video in one country every country can then watch it live too. The 6-12 months later crap they love needs to end and update content live globally.

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  11. Re:Frightened of reading by OhPlz · · Score: 1

    There were no attacks on elections in the west, at least not in the US. Find a new narrative.

  12. Re:SSH Tunnels? by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    Only if you run HTTP through them from a banned website.

  13. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I disagree with your assessment. I speak Russian rather well and in the previous decade I spent a decent amount of time in the ex-USSR and I got to talk to a lot of people from different walks of life and see all kinds of places that tourists usually don't get to.

    The main freedom that Russians have and care about, and this is more or less true in China, is that of free travel. In the old communist systems you couldn't leave for any reason unless you were highly vetted and they were pretty sure you were coming back because defectors made them look bad. Russians are free to leave Russia and visit whatever country they want and even move there if they have the means. This is very important to a lot of people and it has released a lot of pressure from society to allow this.

    I don't really understand this, but Russians have a real history that goes back into the tsarist era of believing that the top guy running the show is a really good person and when things go wrong, it's the fault of the people under him and oh if only he knew what those worthless people working for him were doing. North Korea has this too. Large numbers of defectors have praised whatever Kim was in charge at the time they left while blasting other parts of society. You'll still find people in Russia who think that Stalin was fantastic instead of correctly realizing he was a homicidal maniac and a guy who gives Hitler a great run for the money for the prize of being the most evil ruler of all time. Russian elections are mostly, but not completely, free because most people actually love Putin, as they always love the guy in charge, and Putin does legitimately win his elections. There may be some election fraud, but even if they cleaned up all of it, Putin would still win.

    Corruption is a big problem in all the ex-USSR except maybe the Baltic States. I say maybe because I haven't been there. People grow up with it and they don't really care. It's a normal thing to them because they've never known anything else. And they don't really seem to care that thugs run everything because the USSR was run by thugs to a certain extent anyway and with no travel restrictions, if they can't deal with it they can legally immigrate and just make that somebody else's problem. As long Putin pays the pensions for old people and thumbs his nose at the west, that's really all they care about. He feeds their feeling (some might say "delusion") that they can once again push around significant chunks of the world and that is important to them.

  14. Following in the footsteps of the UK... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The UK government laid down the model for taking on the freedoms offered by unfettered access to the Internet- and eliminating those freedoms one by one. Next Spring, the Internet in the UK becomes the most censored in the world, as Blairites use the excuse of 'think of the children' and access to 'hardcore' porn to begin the process of having UK residents only see the net through a government approved 'whitelist'.

    But of course facts don't matter here, so long as the owners of slashdot get a daily chance to bash Russia.

    Clinton butchered an entire nation- Libya- and in doing so eliminated gay and female rights in that nation. Libya was a modern secular autocracy, based on socialist principles that had no issue with women or differing forms of Human sexuality. Now thanks to the owners of slashdot, and the neo-liberal monsters they support- like Clinton- Libya is a wahhabi hellhole where Saudi Arabia has successfully extended its obscene tentacles.

    Sadly as the Deep State continue to demonise Russia in preparation for pre-emptive nuclear strikes against that nation, Russia is becoming more authoritarian as a security response. In this respect Russia is no different from France, Britain, the USA or most major nations across the globe. When the world marches to war, this always happens.

    But this site is mostly read by Yanks. And a few days back 99% of the Congress voted for sanctions against Russia, and to conflate Russia with Iran and N Korea to further demonise an 'enemy' America is preparing to attack. Yes the entire official Democrat movement allied with the entire official Republican movement and almost every independent to vote against Russia. There wasn't even this consensus in Congress when America was fighting the nazis. The 'fake news' ILLUSION of two party politics in the USA is dead- but Slashdot won't every report on that fact.

    Russia has driven the US created, Saudi funded wahhabi terror groups out of Syria, and the response of the mainstream media is to say Russia's reward should be pain and death. When Trump ended the mass murdering CIA terror training program, all of slashdot's media allies expressed their OUTRAGE. Outrage that the CIA was no longer able to torture and mass murder in Syria. This is how low the fake left has fallen.

    The NSA and GCHQ announced years ago that they have paid shill programs to flood forums like this one with posts attacking such as mine. They boasted that their funding was essentially 'unlimited' so watch as their "every critic is a Putin bot" style posts attempt to choke the arguement here- just like the sheep in Animal Farm.

    It is a fact that Hilary Clinton is a mass murdering horror. It is a fact slashdot and the rest of the mainstream media gave absolue support to clinton during the election cycle. It is a fact that the 'left' in the USA has no problem with Clinton's warmongering, or Clinton's murder of secular regimes in the Middle East, or Clinton's political and military support of wahhabi terror across the planet in alliance with Saudi Arabia.

    When Trump tried to offer an anti-war alternative to Clinton, the Deep State ensured that the entirety of Congress rallied as one to frustrate Trump and put him back on a warmongering course.

    Putin will do everything he must to ensure that when war comes, Russia is ready. Sheeple support of the neo-liberals and neo-cons in Congress means that sooner or later this war will come. And while, at the time of the nuclear plant disaster in Japan, Slashdot actually ran stories stating "radiation is good for you" (don't believe me- go Google), the reality of Russia's nuclear technology is that when war happens, all Human life on the US mainland ends. The demonisation of Russia is intended to have one ending only- your mass suicide.

    America is still run by the religious- and for these nutters 'armaggedon' shows that 'god still lives'. You Clinton loving yanks dumb enough to think youselves 'above' this have no idea what you are going to unleash. Look again at the monolithic voting bloc in your so-called 'Congress' and comprehend even the illusion of debate has ended in the USA.

  15. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    I find a number of problems in what you're saying, not the least of which is '..in the previous decade', and 'being able to leave China'. I also find it difficult at best to believe that living under a government (and country) so full of corruption as Russia would make anyone living there feel comfortable to the point of 'not caring', as you claim. Perhaps you were mislead by people minimizing things, perhaps for reasons of not wanting to draw unwanted attention to themselves by being 'complainers' or 'dissidents'.

  16. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    The problem with "tsars" is not necessarily who you have, but what happens when all of that consolidated power changes hands to someone far less savory. You'd think the average Russian would have learned that lesson long ago. Oh well, as an American, it's not our monkey, not our business. I say, good luck to them all.

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  17. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You're looking at it through western eyes. As unfortunate as it is, he's right. Take it from a Ukrainian who emigrated to the west (Ukraine is the same as Russia in that respect).

  18. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by Dorianny · · Score: 1

    We learn of the shanaigns of our leaders mostly when they are pointed out by the free press and sometimes the political opposition. Neither of those exist in Russia. Even with both of those in the U.S, the constant reporting on embarrasing leaks and blunders and the criticizem of Trump's actions and policies by the opposition party, you still have a significant portion of the country that steadfastly believes it all to be "fake news"

  19. Re:Net Neutrality by unixisc · · Score: 1

    I thought that net neutrality wasn't about that at all: it was about ISPs not being allowed to prevent consumers from accessing content over the internet. E.g. not being allowed to watch CNN live on their website unless one has signed on to a cable plan.

  20. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    Then I feel sorry for you and all your countrymen that living in such shitty conditions has become 'normal' for you, and having such a corrupt and violent government is just 'business as usual' to you.

  21. Internet from censorship proof? by InterGuru · · Score: 1

    Some companies are talking about providing internet service from a swarm of low orbiting mini-satellites. If this comes about, in spite of the reservation in the article, would they be censorship proof?

    1. Re: Internet from censorship proof? by bestweasel · · Score: 1

      President Vladimir Putin has signed a bill that prohibits services, including virtual private networks (VPNs), that enable users to skirt government censorship efforts.

      That would seem to be covered. Even if the sign up page isn't blocked and they accept payment, paying a foreign company for the service would doubtless invite further criminal charges.

  22. Low information news article by dtandersen · · Score: 1

    What are the actual rules?

    1. Re:Low information news article by Vitus+Wagner · · Score: 1

      If you can read Russian, here is link from the Duma site:

      http://asozd2.duma.gov.ru/main...

      It's official

  23. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 2

    The condition you've described here is called slave mentality, and the vast majority of Russians suffer greatly from it.

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  24. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by andydread · · Score: 3, Informative

    You missed one huge glaring important point. Putin controls the media in Russia. All the media there has nothing but favourable things to say about Putin and his cronies. The great Russian masses are thoroughly brain washed.

  25. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by wyHunter · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately Yanks do too.

  26. meanwhile by superwiz · · Score: 1

    No such restriction exists in Ukraine. Welcome to Putin's Russia, everyone supporting the RF takeover in Ukraine. You don't have to learn Ukrainian anymore. You can continue speaking Russian as you always did. Just don't set your sights on reading anything in English.

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  27. Re:SSH Tunnels? by Vitus+Wagner · · Score: 2

    As far as I've read - no. Even if you run a corporate VPN and give acces to it only for your employees, it is OK.

    You encouinter this new law only if you are providing public VPN service. And even so, VPN is not banned. You are just required to register with authorities, and download daily list of banned sites, and restrict access to them. Of course, you have to provide logs on request.

    Really, members of Russian Duma don't realize that there is something in the internet except "sites" and may be "torrents". And they think that they get rid of later by including rutracker.org (formerly torrents.ru) site into list of banned.

  28. Re:Internet from censorship proof? by Vitus+Wagner · · Score: 1

    No it wouldn't Because there is no such thing as free lunch. Somebody have to pay for these satellites.
    And it is quite easy for authoritarian government to prevent its citizens from paying to the satellite owner.
    Note that Bitcoins is already illegal in Russia.

    So, owner of these satellites would have three choices

    1. Adhere to censorship rules
    2. Don't service any people in these countries except few who are brave enough to use some criminal payment scheme.
    3. Get some foreign government to pay for free access of users of particular country as part of information war against it.

    I don't think that variant 3 gives much freedom to users.

    Moreover, Internet is bidirectional by its nature. So, every satellite modem has to transmit some radiowaves on some particular frequency. And this signal have to be strong enough to reach nearest satellite (which is not less than several hundreds kilometers away). So, law enforcers would be able to detect such transmissions using ground-based equipment, which is lot nearer to the transmitter (they don't need to decipher contents, just locate transmitter) and seize modem.

  29. Re:Just use ssh with a SOCKS proxy. by Vitus+Wagner · · Score: 1

    SSH supports SOCKS5 protocol, so DNS wouldn't be leaked if your browser does it to.

    Really., SOCKS4 (which doesn't intercert DNS queries) wouldn't help anyway, because russian providers often fake DNS records for banned sites, redirecting users to their page with text "This site is banned due to government request".

  30. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by Vitus+Wagner · · Score: 1

    Oh, really? Your american mass-media do not cover regular Moscow meetings since 2011?

  31. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

    Russia may be rife with corruption and crime, but it did enjoy a period of relatively free politics in 90s and early 00s, and serious crackdown on freedom of speech and assembly didn't begin until late 00s. So there are plenty of people who are not "normalized" to the way things are becoming now.

    The real problem is that many people don't like when things are "too free".

  32. Re:Do Russians even have a clue what is happening by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

    I'm Russian (both ethnically and a citizen), and I can confirm what he said.

    It should be noted though that there are some people who don't necessarily disagree that Putin is authoritarian, or that Stalin was a bloody dictator. But they genuinely believe that it's how things should be run, either because it's in the "Russian national character" (and anything else leads to ruin), or because they genuinely believe it's a better form of government in general.