CBS Delaying 'Star Trek: Discovery' To Maintain Quality (foxnews.com)

New submitter Zorro shares a report from Fox News: The premiere of "Star Trek: Discovery" on CBS' subscription streaming service, CBS All Access, was postponed nine months to maintain the quality of the brand. Executive producer Alex Kurtzman told the Television Critics Association Tuesday that they "spent a lot of time" discussing how to create this new world for TV that felt authentic to the "Star Trek" universe. Also during that time, executive producer Bryan Fuller decided to exit the series as showrunner to focus on other projects. Kurtzman said "it became clearer and clearer" that the targeted January debut would "compromise the quality of the show," so it was pushed with the blessing of CBS Chairman and CEO Leslie Moonves.

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Stinker

[sexconker]

They've got a real stinker on their hands and they know it.
9 months to fix it? Good luck. That's long enough to tell us that there are serious fucking problems, yet not long enough for them to fix them.

I expect this will either be delayed further, outright canned, or just put out as-is and never spoken of again.

Re:Stinker

[imidan]

They've got a real stinker on their hands and they know it.

In the long history of Star Trek, that knowledge has never stopped them before... and I say this as a fan of the franchise.

Re:Stinker

[Rockoon]

Social Issues effect society. SJW issues effect the 1%... the weird 1% that doesnt fit in

Re:Stinker

[Anonymous Coward]

Complaints about "SJWs" are always more informational about the complainers than demonstrative about the complainee.

Re:Stinker

[Anonymous Coward]

I would disagree with you 100%. The message of star trek was that race and sex don't matter. They had a diverse cast to show that everyone was the same. The world of Star Trek is a strict meritocracy.

The message of "Social Justice" is the complete opposite of this. SocJus declares that race and sex matter more than anything else. SocJus declares meritocracy to be racist and sexist.

Re:Stinker

[AmiMoJo]

People seem to forget how bad all the other Star Trek series were at first. TNG had a really bad first season, and the original series had one failed pilot and a difficult start too. Even DS9 and Voyager weren't brilliant from the get-go.

Having said that, the trailer for Discovery looks okay. At most I'd say it's too early to pass judgement.

Re:Stinker

[AmiMoJo]

Race mattered in Star Trek. Allowances were made for Worf due to being a Klingon, for example. And it wasn't quite as post-racial as people think, e.g. Riker's reaction when some Ferengi were invited to the Enterprise and he couldn't hide his disgust, even asking for them to be quartered well away from his own dwelling.

Where "social justice", or rather some of the movements that are labelled as such, say that race and gender matter they are just accepting reality as it is. In reality men and women are different, and have slightly different needs in some situations. In reality, some races are disadvantaged in some societies, and trying to ignore that and pretend that we are a perfect meritocracy is not very helpful.

Trek is mostly post-feminist though, at least by TNG times. During the TOS era women couldn't become starship captains for some reason, which today seems ridiculous.

Re:Don't expect intelligent discussion here

[cunina]

Please link to one single comment, from anyone, whining that the new Star Trek isn't 100% white men. Just one.

Re:doomed

[NoNonAlphaCharsHere]

Exactly. The notion that we're all going to subscribe to tens of monthly streaming services at 12$ or so a pop (particularly just to watch a single exclusive series) is ludicrous. CBS was counting on this series to be their flagship for why you should subscribe to their service. The fact that the showrunner is now gone tells you that a) he quit because there was too much interference, or b) they fired him, thus proving there's too much interference.

Kurtzman and Goldsman ARE serious fucking problems

[denzacar]

Whatever either Alex Kurtzman or Akiva Goldsman touch - it turns to shit.

Though, granted, they did find a worse combination than joining Kurtzman with Orci, Jar Jar and Lindelof, as usual.
I'm guessing that adding that "From the writer of "I Am Legend", "The Da Vinci Code", "Angels and Demons", "I, Robot", "Lost in Space", "Batman & Robin" and "Transformers: The Last Knight"" credit clinched it.

But hey! At least they've gotten rid of the guy who worked on DS9 and Voyager!
That'll make the Noo Trek so much better!

Re:Saw the preview, it's not a "quality" problem

[rtb61]

A 9 month delay on a TV series mean scrapping a lot of stuff. At a guess Days of our Lives in space, day time soap opera for broad, more accurately female appeal, bombed really badly with test audiences, day time soap opera viewers hated it and sci fi aficionados absolutely loathed it. SJWs loved what was in it but hated to watch it and believed they could force other people to watch it, it's their self serving nature. It seems to be all they can produce now, the last series of Dr Who was crap, just went stupid, dropped sci fi to go day time soap opera, stopped watching half way through the season, likely the same crap done to Discovery. This weird attempt to normalise their disturbed personal behaviour and force it on the rest of us, genital mutilation and arbitrary sexual relations, the narcissists must be served, the entirety of society must be warped to make fit their personal insanities, normalise the abnormal and call the normal, what was it again, oh yeah deplorables, white male privilege deplorables.

Re:Saw the preview, it's not a "quality" problem

[elrous0]

DS9 was the best Trek show ever. It was the only one where the characters acted like anything remotely resembling real people.

Re:Don't expect intelligent discussion here

[Evil Kerek]

Well you certainly are trying to prove it. Do you think your post has anything but trolling?

The push for diversity, as Marvel has found, can't come at the expense of your target audience. I would also counter than ST:TNG, Voyager & Deep Space Nine had no diversity problem at all - I wasn't a fan of Voyager but I loved ST:TNG & Deep Space Nine. You can bow to the pressure of these fringe groups, but they are NOT the ones that are going to watch the shows. Look at GhostBusters. They got exactly what they asked for (plus a shitty script) and...those very people failed to support it. That's pretty much been the story. Look at Black Panther & The Crew. Quickly cancelled because...no one was interested. No one reads comics for that sort of political crap. I can watch the news if I want that garbage.

The bottom line: It's about the money. If comics/movies about [pick your favorite PC flavor of the month] made them money, I PROMISE you they'd be all over it. If they come on with a solid stories and good acting, ST:D (HAHAHAHHAHA) will do fine. I simply have no faith the scripts will also not be a bunch of political PC BS.

The other death knell is hijacking it to their streaming service. I don't plan to watch it regardless of where it broadcasts but I certainly am not going to sub to CBS to see it.

Re:Don't expect intelligent discussion here

[Rockoon]

The push for diversity, as Marvel has found, can't come at the expense of your target audience.

Marvel found that "pushing for diversity" isnt a good business model, that those loud people that think something is wrong unless every single box is checked... are a minority.