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Google May Be In Trouble For Firing James Damore (inc.com)

Google fired engineer James Damore after he wrote a 10-page document about "Google's Ideological Echo Chamber." taustin writes from a report via Inc. about the potential legal trouble the company may face from firing the "anti-diversity" engineer: Whether Demore is right or wrong, whether one agrees with him or not, Google may have legal trouble for firing him. Employees are protected by federal law when they discuss working conditions with other employees (and this was an internal memo). His memo could be considered whistleblowing, which is also protected (and it is very clear that he was fired as retribution). And, in California, political opinions are protected in the work place as well. Just because one side is wrong doesn't mean the other side is right.

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  1. Re: They wont get in trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Actually because he is a White make people actually care about this. Even more he will be paid handsomely for his actions.

    We're this any other color or sex of person calling out actual harmful company policies they would be condemned, have little attention paid to their plight and would be fighting for years for some kind of recognition.

    I know you think playing the victim is helpful to your cause but most people can see through your Nazi propaganda.

    Go back to Russia comrade.

  2. Re:he's not a whistleblower by norweeg · · Score: -1, Troll

    google is majority white and majority male, so there is no discrimination here. If anything they have an unfair advantage if the people in charge of hiring agree with the memo. Go play victim somewhere else! *disclosure: I am a white male in a tech job

  3. Re: They wont get in trouble by Junta · · Score: 0, Troll

    scientifically based.

    I think that's being exceedingly generous. It may sound 'sciencey', but certainly he does not have study data to back him up.

    Of course one could complain that there's no way in hell that a proper scientific study to examine those hypothesis will get funded/published because it's just such a taboo subject. However lacking such a study, it's not appropriate to lean into a convenient hypothesis supporting your personal world view.

    Calling out the ideological culture and generally complaining about excessive obsession with diversity in general terms I think would have been fair game , but going so far as to assert the hypothesis that women were biologically not suited for the work crossed a line.

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  4. Re: They wont get in trouble by Tranzistors · · Score: -1, Troll

    He gave citations for all of it.

    Were those citations any good? Did they actually support the point he was making?

  5. Re: They wont get in trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'd love the citation about how women, in average, don't make it to managerial positions because they don't want to deal with the stress.

    I can wait.

  6. Re:Pandering? by BasilBrush · · Score: -1, Troll

    What age were you when you started having paranoid thoughts?

  7. Re:Pandering? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0, Troll

    Furthermore, scientist after scientist are coming forward saying he is right about the science.

    Now that really is total bollocks. Genuine fake news.

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  8. Re: They wont get in trouble by orzetto · · Score: 0, Troll

    A person who is not a white male will absolutely get paid attention to almost immediately.

    That's true when discussing being stopped by police.

    I'm a white male myself and I cannot fathom how some people with my same complexion cannot notice the skin colour and genital makeup of Congress, company boards and most positions of power.

    This man now has become the hero of Trumpists and self-styled enemies of the politically incorrect because he proposed a series of sexist (and I use this word with great parsimony in my daily life) stereotypes which belong in the 19th century. However, it would have been interesting the reaction of the same people if he had been a muslim and proposed to install sharia in Google—which is pretty much what he was suggesting.

    And oh, the irony of an alt-rightist resorting to government regulations in order to keep his job in an at-will state!

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  9. Re:he's not a whistleblower by jlf278 · · Score: -1, Troll

    Nowhere did he say they were "less suited". That's just you putting words in the authors mouth. He's talking about distributions of populations, not individuals. He's also talking about how men and women have natural inclinations, i.e. they value some fields more than others because of the different ways in which men and women think ON AVERAGE.

    Try actually reading the damn thing before spouting off talking points.

    Do you NOT realize this is precisely the root of much discrimination? If ON AVERAGE people who grew up in a less affluent neighborhood are not as qualified for computer programming jobs, does that mean it is good or even okay to screen applicants based on this information? If 60% of the people working in a particular field are a certain ethnicity, religion, gender, height, hair color, etc. does that mean these qualities are proven to correlate with professional competency in this field? Even if they were correlated, they are unlikely to be directly correlated. Having a degree in mechanical engineering makes you more capable of working as a mechanical engineer. Most mechanical engineering students are men. That does NOT mean you can infer that a woman with a mechanical engineering degree is LESS capable than a man with the same degree.

  10. Sophistry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    He never brings of the topic of suitability. His section about biological differences only discusses why genders tend to choose certain professions.

    That's pure sophistry.

    Its contradictory to say that biological differences cause end results and then to turn and say that those biological differences do not affect suitability for those end results.

    That's like saying that because men lack uteruses they don't bear children, but they are still suitable to bear children.

  11. Re:Enlightenment values by Rockoon · · Score: -1, Troll

    I call on everyone with mod points to mod down these fucking liars. Destroy their karma. Liars arent good. Liars arent productive. Liars are just fucking liars.

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