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No Cash For Hate, Say Mainstream Crowdfunding Firms (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Online fund-raising sites are turning their backs on activists looking to offer financial support for James Fields, the man accused of driving his car into counter-protesters at a white-nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia on Saturday. GoFundMe, Kickstarter and other mainstream crowdfunding firms have policies that prohibit hate speech or abuse, the latest example of technology firms making it harder for far-right groups to organize online. Fields is accused of killing one woman and injuring 19 others on Saturday after the rally in Charlottesville turned violent. Supporters of Fields, who was denied bail at a court hearing in Virginia on Monday, have turned to the internet to raise money for his legal defense. GoFundMe, one of the two leading crowdfunding firms, said on Monday it has removed multiple fundraising campaigns for Fields, because the company prohibits the promotion of hate speech and violence.

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  1. Re:Black Lives Matter by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because pointing out the greater likelihood of being shot by police if you're black than if you're white is clearly hate speech...

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  2. Problematic as a precedent by FooAtWFU · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some day an innocent man is going to set up a crowdfunding campaign for his defence and is going to get it shut down because he's been pre-emptively judged guilty. It's that old "first they came for the (x)" story, except this time they came for the Nazis, and it's all that more seductive because the Nazis deserve it.

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    1. Re:Problematic as a precedent by bobbied · · Score: 5, Insightful

      THIS!

      We all need to be guarding the other's rights no matter how repugnant the other's opinions (or actions) are to us. A right to speak, A right to fair trial, even being treated as innocent until convicted should NOT be abridged. If we don't slow down and realize this, we are going to have no real justice, no real democracy. It will be mob rule, where those who are the angriest and most violent will rule with impunity, in short anarchy will rule with all it's violence and fury and bring with it death and destrcution.

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  3. Re:Black Lives Matter by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's a false equivalency. BLM may have some incidental violence (like many protest groups), but the goal of the movement is to reduce violence.

    To make it an accurate equivalency, you'd have to find someone who was anti-white, tried to kill a bunch of white people, and then GoFundMe decided to allow a defense fund.

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  4. Re:nobrainer by StormReaver · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On the other hand, you might alienate the few remaining Americans who support racist violence.

    And on the third hand, you might alienate the few remaining Americans who believe that everyone accused of a crime is entitled to a fair trial.

  5. Re:Meet the new judge by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Show me the law that says hiring a lawyer amounts to hate speech....

  6. Re:Where is the evidence? by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He was seen marching with a white supremacist group (Vanguard America) and was seen wearing one of their shields early in the protest. Couple that with statements by others who knew him that he espoused white supremacist views, I don't think you need to be Sherlock Holmes to draw the line, unless you're intentionally trying to make a group like Vanguard look less loathsome than they are by making the absurd claim that he had nothing to do with them.

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  7. Re: Black Lives Matter by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    BLM advocates nonviolence and loving engagement. When people associated with BLM have engaged in violence, the organization has denounced their actions.

    Can you cite any white supremacist organization that has denounced the actions of James Fields in Charlottesville?

    There are a lot of legitimate reasons to criticise BLM, but comparing them to Nazis is absurd.