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Justice Department Walks Back Demand For Information On Anti-Trump Website (theverge.com)

After issuing a warrant to DreamHost for "all files" related to an anti-trump website, the Justice Department says it's scaling back a demand for information from hosting service DreamHost. The Verge reports: In a legal filing today, the Justice Department argues that the warrant was proper, but also says DreamHost has since brought up information that was previously "unknown." In light of that, it has offered to carve out information demanded in the warrant, specifically pledging to not request information like HTTP logs tied to IP addresses. The department says it is only looking for information related to criminal activity on the site, and says that "the government is focused on the use of the Website to organize, to plan, and to effect a criminal act -- that is, a riot." Peaceful protestors, the government argues, are not the targets of the warrant. The filing asks the court to proceed with the new, less burdensome request, which, apart from the carved-out sections, still requests "all records or other information, pertaining to the Account, including all files, databases, and database records stored by DreamHost in relation to that Account." It's unclear if DreamHost will continue to fight the new demand.

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  1. Realized it was in the NSA database by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Stored as "metadata".

    Same thing.

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  2. Re: This is fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Clearly not. Many who supported Trump are shut down from speaking out in public, disinvented to speak in public places paid for with tax dollars, violently attacked when gathering in a public place, had their private information released to the general public... in what way are Trump supporters getting special protection here?

    I don't agree with them or their choice for president, but I'd have to say if this was happening to Clinton supporters there would be major outrage. I know I'd be rather pissed off if my civil rights were being violated.

    We either have free speech and privacy, or we don't. if you're willing to violate them for political purposes, don't expect to have them when the pendulum swings the other way again.

  3. "We drew too much attention.." by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Translation:

    We drew too much attention from the media and the general public with our outlandish search warrant, so rather than take all the heat for what amounted to an overreach, we (quote-unquote) 'scaled back the request' so we don't look like the jackbooted thugs we actually are.

    Pro-tip for you, guys: You still look like jackbooted thugs.

  4. Re: This is fine by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You have the right to free speech and privacy. But if you make your views known publicly, you can't assume you'll somehow magically be immune from the consequences. Want to be a Nazi in your basement, go right ahead. Want to be a Nazi out in the town square, then you have voluntarily surrendered your rights to privacy, and if your friends, family and employer no longer want to be associated with you because you believe the white race is superior and all the Jews and brown skinned people should be chased off, well, that's tough on you.

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  5. Re:This is fine by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I guess "free speech" now means running people down and actually killing them, according to the Right

    FTFY

    Congratulations on becoming everything you claim to hate..

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  6. Re: This is fine by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh bullshit

    You have the right to free speech and privacy. But if you make your views known publicly, you can't assume you'll somehow magically be immune from the consequences. Want to be a terrorist AntiFa in your basement, go right ahead. Want to be a terrorist AntiFa out in the town square, then you have voluntarily surrendered your rights to privacy, and if your friends, family and employer no longer want to be associated with you because you believe socialism is superior and all the Jews and white skinned people or whomever is the alinksy-ite determined people to hate du jour should be chased off, well, that's tough on you.

    You're not going to like it when the tables are turned.

    Except that being a Nazi in most parts of the Western world are viewed as far worse than being an antifa thug. Sorry, that's just the way it is. I'm sorry your white supremacist beliefs make you into among the most deplorable human beings around. Maybe you should reconsider your hatred of minorities and your misplaced, and frankly idiotic. View.of your superiity, because what you really are is a pathetic whining snowflake whose misfortune is your own goddamned fault and not some Jewish conspiracy to keep you down.

    Grow up.

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  7. Re:This is fine by Known+Nutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One major issue with the current political climate -- which you two have just perfectly demonstrated -- is the all or nothing approach, like the misguided loyalty to a football team that is so common in the US. Next to zero critical thinking or consideration of opposing views in current political discourse. Left vs Right -- that's all it is anymore. My side is always correct.

    Seems to be an anti-evolutionary and stupid approach to matters of critical importance, in my opinion.

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  8. Re: This is fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Except that being a Nazi in most parts of the Western world are viewed as far worse than being an antifa thug. Sorry, that's just the way it is.

    You can't justify bad behavior by saying the other side is worse. Neither are acceptable. Sorry, that's just the way it is.

  9. Re:This is fine by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One major issue with the current political climate -- which you two have just perfectly demonstrated -- is the all or nothing approach, like the misguided loyalty to a football team that is so common in the US. Next to zero critical thinking or consideration of opposing views in current political discourse. Left vs Right -- that's all it is anymore. My side is always correct.

    Seems to be an anti-evolutionary and stupid approach to matters of critical importance, in my opinion.

    I agree , too.

    However, BlueStrat is demonstrably wrong, has a history of being demonstrably wrong, and comes from a long line of people who are demonstrably wrong. Oh, and "stupid". I have extensive data and metrics to prove it.

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  10. Re:This is fine by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Sure, but are layers of straw man arguments really useful toward achieving a productive dialogue?

    You can't have a productive dialogue with people who are nazi apologists.

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  11. Re:This is fine by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yesterday I saw an article about a yoga guy (or girl) urging students and teachers to embrace "gender justice". So either you are a gender justice warrior or your are a white supremacist, there is no middle ground.

    In this madness we miss things like this DOJ request, which can and should be fought against. It's simply too unimportant compared to white supremacy. And gender justice.