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Node.js Forked Again Over Complaints of Unresponsive Leadership (thenewstack.io)
New submitter Kant shares a report: The codebase for popular Node.js JavaScript runtime has been forked again -- the second time in less than three years -- with a growing number of contributors charging that the Technical Steering Committee (TSC) leadership is ignoring repeated violations of the project's code of conduct. The new project, called Ayo will be managed under an open governance model. The complaints centered around ongoing behavior of NodeSource Director of Engineering, and Node.js TSC member Rod Vagg. The TSC received multiple complaints from Node.js members about a Tweet from Vagg promoting a Men's Rights Activist-slanted article, one that cast doubt on the validity of project Code-of-Conducts. In that Tweet, Vagg commented "If you've never considered the potential downsides of codes of conduct, here's a good place to start." [...] On August 21, The TSC voted on whether or not to remove Vagg from its ranks. Of the 10 TSC members who voted, 60 percent voted against removing Rod from the TSC and 60 percent voted against asking Rod to voluntarily resign. That the TSC voted to keep Vagg on the committee inflamed others in the project. One committee member, Myles Borins, resigned in protest. The decision to keep Vagg "undermines our Conduct Guidelines, drives away potential contributors, and in my opinion undermines the Committee's ability to govern," he wrote in a blog post. In a post further explaining the need for the forked Ayo project, developer Rudolf Olah explained that "Driving away contributors can be fatal in the open source world where most developers are essentially using their free time and volunteering to contribute. It is already difficult enough to attract contributors to smaller projects and larger projects, such as Node.js, need to be careful to make all contributors feel welcome."
Should be non-reactionary leadership, forking it for social justice is ridiculous.
Back in the day, software projects used to be killed because of technical limitations. Now they are killed because someone objects to what someone else does in their spare time.
According to the github page it has been forked 7,663 times. This seems to be much ado about nothing.
A real chance to see whether SJWs can actually code now that they have their own fork.
Posted anonymously to preempt needless forks of my own projects.
Buying a political orientation together with your programming language has never been a good idea. If you don't buy into a tax policy when you're buying your breakfast cereals, why would you do that when shopping for your programming tools?
Ezekiel 23:20
So they are forking the project because some feminist's feelz were hurt over a tweet? Holy shit...there is never a shortage of retards around.
It is gay. As a library, it must be male. Beau wants to mate with Node and spread his seed into cyberspace thru enigmatic cyberterrorism. Cybercrime like this must never allow itself to occur by the cyberpeinciple of cyberreflection.
Be careful, or "welcoming and inclusive" becomes sexual harassment. It's hard to steer between the fine lines of groupthink.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
So it's a violation of the code of conduct to suggest a code of conduct may not be necessary? From the article I'm not seeing much about mens rights and more to do with 'neurodiversity' - though I'm aware that the support of "men's rights" is like many things, associated with nazis by the left right now (i.e. anything the populist left does not advocate). But assuming he was linking an article about men's rights, does advocating men's rights violate the Node.JS code of conduct?
I glanced at the code of conduct and saw nothing against criticizing the code of conduct, nor against the supposed support of men's rights. What I did find were guidelines saying members should "Be respectful of differing viewpoints and experiences", and "Gracefully accept constructive criticism". So are the people railing against the TSC instead violating the code of conduct?
The code of conduct can be found here: https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
node.js will continue on unchanged. The PC police that forked the project have never contributed any code anyways.
I don't think this these are the tea-party members throwing tantrums:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_House_of_Representatives_sit-in
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
The article linked to raises questions about speech codes of conduct, especially at universities, and points out that some people may have neurological diseases like Tourette's Syndrome that don't make them dangerous but may make them unable to comply with such codes. How exactly this is a "Men's Rights Activist" article is beyond me, although I guess men and men in IT may have more tendencies towards these issues. So some SJW got butt hurt because a writer dared to suggest compassion for people with different neurological wiring and this led to the vote and fork. Know what I find most disturbing? That 40% of the people agreed with the SJWs. If this is all it took to make them lose their minds, it's truly a sad day.
This is a good example. They fracture communities, exclude everybody whose world-view they do not like, suppress opinions, perform inquisitions into private, non-criminal activities and generally place PC far above performance and technological skill. It is a reasonable assumption that node.js at the very least got much weaker due to a non-technical issue. These are exactly the people that made the dark ages dark. And they seem to want that state back.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
It matters because bigotry, bias, racism, etc. can drive away contributors.
How do you think contributors feel about the idea that some "committee" is going to evaluate their morals and kick them out if they don't match the political manifesto du jour?
Open source is about encouraging contributors from the community, not discriminating or disparaging contributors because they happen to be a different race, sex, etc.
Open source is about code. It's not a political platform.
Back in the day, software projects used to be killed because of technical limitations. Now they are killed because someone objects to what someone else does in their spare time.
So let me get this straight.
Rod Vagg tweeted using his personal twitter account, on his own time, and referred to an article which appears to be quite worthy of discussion. The title The Neurodiversity Case for Free Speech pretty-much describes what one finds in the article. It's about "speech codes", and the effects of limiting what people can say.
The article is completely and totally academic, with a position and supporting argument, written by a psychology professor!
And for tweeting a link to this article, he loses his position as Director of Engineering?
You can get doxxed, threatened, and fired for having a political opinion on your own time if you get caught. Even if you don't publicly voice your opinion on the net, you can get fired for being caught on a security camera at a protest.
This political climate - the one we are living in right now - is insane.
Be careful, or "welcoming and inclusive" becomes sexual harassment.
No it doesn't. If you think it happened to you, you may wish to examine what you actually did.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
making them very likely to get STEM degrees, especially with computers where you don't need to deal with people as often. Mix in that tech culture loves a meritocracy
Where does this idea that you don't need to deal with people as often in STEM/computer jobs? That's crazy. It was true in the 80s, but these days with open-plan offices being the norm, it's not. And in the big tech companies like Facebook, the "office" is really just a big giant open room with open tables.
Tech work isn't for people who don't like to deal with people, it's for people-people now. You need to love being surrounded by your coworkers at all times, with no privacy at all, and constant chatter. Any time discussions about this come up online, you'll see two camps: old people (Gen-X or older) who hate the new workspaces, and young people who absolutely love them.
So he tweets an article about the downsides of codes of conduct, and they try to use the code of conduct to get him removed.
Wow. QED.
Dear SJW asswipes, this has fuck all to do with Node.JS. Please eat shit.
P.S. every project should dump their code of conduct immediately. They exist ONLY to allow blue haired lunatics to remove you and take over your project.