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As Coding Boot Camps Close, the Field Faces a Reality Check (nytimes.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: In the last five years, dozens of schools have popped up offering an unusual promise: Even humanities graduates can learn how to code in a few months and join the high-paying digital economy. Students and their hopeful parents shelled out as much as $26,000 seeking to jump-start a career. But the coding boot-camp field now faces a sobering moment, as two large schools have announced plans to shut down this year -- despite backing by major for-profit education companies, Kaplan and the Apollo Education Group, the parent of the University of Phoenix. The closings are a sign that years of heady growth led to a boot-camp glut, and that the field could be in the early stages of a shakeout. [...] One of the casualties, Dev Bootcamp, was a pioneer. It started in San Francisco in 2012 and grew to six schools with more than 3,000 graduates. Only three years ago, Kaplan, the biggest supplier of test-preparation courses, bought Dev Bootcamp and pledged bold expansion. It is now closing at the end of the year. Also closing is The Iron Yard, a boot camp that was founded in Greenville, S.C., in 2013 and swiftly spread to 15 campuses, from Las Vegas to Washington, D.C. Its main financial backer is the Apollo Education Group. Since 2013, the number of boot camp schools in the United States has tripled to more than 90, and the number of graduates will reach nearly 23,000 in 2017, a tenfold jump from 2013, according to Course Report, which tracks the industry.

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  1. Not only a glut of people by Khyber · · Score: 1, Insightful

    But a glut of stupidity, bloat, and bad code.

    --
    Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
  2. $10 on Udemy vs $3000 Boot Camp by known_coward_69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not like the boot camp instructors are CompSci masters who went to MIT or Stanford. It's the same content.

    Even if Boot Camps are a little better, they aren't $2900 better

  3. Complaints, complaints [Re:Here's the link to TFA] by XXongo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't link to the NYT fucker. Aside from being a leftist piece of trash,

    I've heard a lot of right-leaning people complain about the New York Times. I haven't, however, seen any evidence that they aren't a good source of information.

    they limit the number of articles they allow you to see each month.

    It's bad enough that millennial assholes think that it's a crime if everything on the internet is not free, free, free. Reporters shouldn't be paid, they should work for the love of it. (and for the "exposure").

    But now, when the New York Times actually is giving away their content for free, the millennial assholes are complaining that they are not getting enough content for free.

  4. Nope, programming isn't that easy after all by XXongo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm not surprised these "bootcamps" are closing.

    Intensive courses sound good, but once the "graduates" get out, they discover that they will be competing with people who have been obsessed with computers since the age of ten; people who would rather code than eat.

    1. Re:Nope, programming isn't that easy after all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe you should actively learn people skills. Talk to a job coach. Plenty of places have free job coaching available. Talk to cashiers at the store and anyone else you come in contact with and treat them like people so you can get some practice.

      Maybe you have some quirks that you're proud of. Maybe those quirks are harming your life prospects, so consider stopping the quirky behavior. If you're concerned that that's not who you are, well, you should probably reconsider your priorities if the alternative is that you will "die in poverty when I starve to death in the gutter."

      Social skills can be learned by most (almost all) people. Treat it like other skills that you would learn. Learn and practice. You can't become an amazing $MUSICAL_INSTRUMENT player without practicing that instrument, learning all the relevant skills, and practicing some more. And maybe you never will become amazing at it, but you can probably learn to be good enough to at least be happy with your own performance.

      Go read books, talk to people, ask for help, read online.

  5. Re:Complaints, complaints [Re:Here's the link to T by ilsaloving · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why are you targeting millennial with your comment? They don't have a monopoly on cheapness. Hell, if anything, the Boomers are *worse* cause they got it better than any generation before or since, and get pissy when anyone pushes back on their entitled attitude.

  6. Where to find real news by XXongo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've heard a lot of right-leaning people complain about the New York Times. I haven't, however, seen any evidence that they aren't a good source of information.

    Have we already forgotten about the embarrassing Jayson Blair incident?

    The number one item on my list of what constitutes a credible news source is, do they publish error corrections?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/11/us/correcting-the-record-times-reporter-who-resigned-leaves-long-trail-of-deception.html

    Or, to quote the Forbes article on Where You Find Real Facts Rather Than Alternative Facts:

    "If a reporter gets facts in a story wrong, will the news outlet investigate a complaint and publish a correction? Does the publication have its own code of ethics? Or does it subscribe to and endorse the Society of Professional Journalist’s code of ethics? And if a reporter or editor seriously violates ethical codes – such as being a blatant or serial plagiarizer, fabulist or exaggerator – will they be fired at a given news outlet? While some may criticize mainstream media outlets for a variety of sins, top outlets such as the Washington Post, the New York Times, NBC News and the New Republic have fired journalists for such ethics violations. That is remarkable in a world where some celebrities, politicians and other realms of media (other than news such as Hollywood films “based on a true story”) can spread falsehood with impunity."