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A Canadian University Gave $11 Million To a Scammer (vice.com)

A Canadian university transferred more than $11 million CAD (around $9 million USD) to a scammer that university staff believed to be a vendor in a phishing attack, a university statement published on Thursday states. From a report: Staff at MacEwan University in Edmonton, Alberta became aware of the fraud on Wednesday, August 23, the statement says. According to the university, the attacker sent a series of emails that convinced staff to change payment details for a vendor, and that these changes resulted in the transfer of $11.8 million CAD into bank accounts that the school has traced to Canada and Hong Kong. The school is working with authorities in Edmonton, Montreal, London, and Hong Kong, the statement reads. According to the university, its IT systems were not compromised and no personal or financial information was stolen. A phishing scam is not technically a "hack," it should be noted, and only requires the attacker to convince the victim to send money. The school's preliminary investigation found that "controls around the process of changing vendor banking information were inadequate, and that a number of opportunities to identify the fraud were missed."

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  1. As a result by fibonacci8 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The phisher was awarded an honorary degree in social engineering.

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    1. Re:As a result by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      keyboards? how quaint

      we use touchscreen tablets now

      Siri, Alexa and Cortana disagree

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  2. Depends who's spinning by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A phishing scam is not technically a "hack,"

    Unless you're Clinton's campaign man Podesta or the DNC, in which case it's a Super Powerful Russian Hack That Only Trump Could Have Payed For.

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    1. Re:Depends who's spinning by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      ah, still butthurt that Trump dealings with Moscow keep on piling up?

      No, still highly amused that anonymous coward trolls think they're scoring some sort of rhetorical points in their safe space echo chamber by continuing to trot out the delusional narrative that Clinton lost the election, and the Democrats over years have lost nearly a thousand legislative seats and most of the governorships and both houses of congress, because Trump was working with the Russians ... in some way that nobody can cite, and for which there is no evidence.

      No surprise that he's already begun to done so though.

      Really! Please, do tell. Which people working on his campaign has he pardoned because they were convicted of working with the Russians? Can't wait for your citation, since you obviously know things that even CNN isn't willing to lie about. Please, some links to those pardons. That would be great. No? Ah, I see.

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  3. Apparently this is popular by Sloppy · · Score: 2

    My city fell for that one.

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  4. Re:Universities deserve to be scammed by magarity · · Score: 2

    1) Universities don't control the cost of textbooks, publishers do

    Professors who write the textbooks that are required for their classes have a non trivial part to play in that cost.

  5. Re:Universities deserve to be scammed by alexo · · Score: 1

    1) Universities don't control the cost of textbooks, publishers do

    Professors require that students use the latest edition of the books, killing the used book market and keeping prices artificially high.

    2) A quick look a resident's cost for Canadian universities shows an average tuition of $5428 US and a max of $17808 US.
    The average cost of a 4-year college in the US, is, by comparison, at least $23,600, and the most expensive about $43k

    The Canadian tuition you quoted is per-year (see official stats here

  6. Canadian Universities not like US by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    With the cost of tuition and text books, people should be scamming them.

    Have you looked at the cost of tuition in Canada? It is far, far less than the US and now even the UK. At UAlberta the typical total tuition costs (all union, transit etc. fees included) for a Canadian (resident or citizen) student taking a full course load are ~$8k/year for science - and those are Canadian dollars so about US$6k. If you want accommodation and food in a residence the cost rises to just under $16k/year (CAD). You can do the calculation here. The institute in question, Grant McEwan, should be even cheaper. Compare that to the standard £9,000 tuition (~$14,500) in the UK and ~US$40-60k for a top university in the US.

    As for the text books, those profits go to the publishers, not the university and frankly the price has started to tick off so many of us faculty that we are either writing our own or using free/open resources at least for lower level courses.

    1. Re:Canadian Universities not like US by Wrexs0ul · · Score: 1

      Maybe if you're not taking labs. I graduated from there a long time ago and had science semesters over that amount.

      This number is deceivingly low. Add a couple chem or bio labs that most science programs require and you'll easily hit 10k. Engineering or any professional degree is significantly more.

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    2. Re:Canadian Universities not like US by easyTree · · Score: 1

      How about a comparison of the quality of their graduates?

    3. Re:Canadian Universities not like US by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Maybe if you're not taking labs. I graduated from there a long time ago and had science semesters over that amount.

      This number is deceivingly low. Add a couple chem or bio labs that most science programs require and you'll easily hit 10k. Engineering or any professional degree is significantly more.

      It's even cheaper if you're in-province, actually. I think I paid just about $100/credit, and a typical engineering load was 36-39 credits a semester. So it was under $8K Canadian a year. Arts and Sciences with 20-30 credits a semester is even cheaper.

      My labs were included - they are billed by credits as well. Books were a significant part of the cost.

      Out of province Canadians were charged a little more, probably around $200/credit. Out of country people were really billed a lot - a few of my friends were out of Canada students and they were paying the $20K/semester fees.

      And yes, if you're wondering, taxes pay for a lot of it. Though I'm sure I've repaid them a few times over already. Government also gives a huge incentive to save up for education - Registered Education Savings Plans (RESP) are tax-free (you're taxed when you withdraw), and the government contributes 20% of what you contribute every year up to $500. Put in $2500 and the government/taxpayers kick in $500 so it grows by $3000 a year. You can't withdraw it until you're at least 18 and it has to be used on a recognized educational program - otherwise the government will want their contribution back and you lose the tax-free status.

      Canadian universities are cheap, and a lot of them great. Most provinces should actually have world class university so really, one shouldn't need to study out of province, or even out of Canada.

    4. Re:Canadian Universities not like US by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

      How about a comparison of the quality of their graduates?

      US graduates, at least in physics, have to spend several years taking a lot of courses to get to the same level that a Canadian graduate can get to with far fewer courses. The US system provides a slightly broader but very much shallower education which makes US graduates far weaker than comparable graduates from Canada or Europe when it comes to knowledge of the subject they graduated in. This is why the US needs such extensive graduate programs for MSc/PhD students to bring them up to the level to compete on the international stage. At the post-grad level the US is just as good as anywhere else because of this but after a bachelor's degree, the US standard of knowledge in a subject is decidedly lower than most other countries I'm aware of.

      This also reflected in the textbooks we use for first year courses which are aimed at the US market and which are becoming increasingly below the standard we need in Canada and indeed this has now lead to several publishers to work on Canadian-specific versions.

  7. Re:How is this any different? by Mitreya · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not really any different than all the shysters applying for grants for research projects at any University and providing bullshit results for the funding and additional funding?

    Eh? Have you ever applied for a grant?

    1) Grant application goes through a peer review -- so at the very least you need to convince ~5 peers and at least 1 program officer that your research is worthy of funding.
    2) 95% of money goes to the university and to students or postdocs (professors can only pay themselves in the summer for up to 2 months at most)
    3) You have to do annual reports, follow a bunch of rules on anything you buy, fill out an ungodly number of conflict-of-interest forms.

    I could go on. But it is really, really different from just getting the money, I assure you.

  8. Re:Universities deserve to be scammed by easyTree · · Score: 1

    Yep, it's only fair, universities have been scamming students for generations - that does seem to be tailing off though...

  9. Re: Universities deserve to be scammed by easyTree · · Score: 1

    Cue the goal post shift in 3...2...1...

    Actually, goal-posts are no longer the de-facto standard for this type of idea-transfer.

  10. they have bankruptcy for student loans by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    they have bankruptcy for student loans

    https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/...

  11. Re:Universities deserve to be scammed by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    The Canadian tuition you quoted is per-year

    And? Do you seriously think the most expensive college in the US is 43 grand for the whole shebang?

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  12. Re: Universities deserve to be scammed by KGIII · · Score: 1

    It's CAD, so the conversion is probably wrong. It's more like $82.50 USD.

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  13. A little education goes a long way by kbsoftware · · Score: 1

    "A phishing scam is not technically a "hack," it should be noted, and only requires the attacker to convince the victim to send money." It's also the easiest scam to protect yourself or organization from, all that is required is a bit of education.

  14. Re:Universities deserve to be scammed by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

    Doing a quick search reveals that even the cheapest universities tuition and fees run $5K per year. Tuition runs between 10-24K depending upon in/out of state tuition. However, if you're wanting to go to an accredited university, you can look at 10K / year as a minimum, if you're in-state, and that was checking two known "cheap" universities for in state tuition. It's more than 21K / year if you're out of state.

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