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Hollywood is Suffering Its Worst-attended Summer Movie Season in 25 years (latimes.com)

The number of movie tickets sold in the U.S. this summer (425 million) is likely to be the lowest level since 1992, the L.A. Times reports. "Theaters, studios hit by summer box-office blues." The reason: Too many bad movies, including sequels, reboots and aging franchises that no one wanted to see. Some point to rising ticket prices, which hit a record high in the second quarter. From the report: Then there are long-term challenges, including competition from streaming services such as Netflix and the influence of the movie review site Rotten Tomatoes. How about all of the above? What is clear: This summer was marred with multiple high-profile films that flopped stateside, including "The Mummy," "Baywatch," "The Dark Tower" and "King Arthur: Legend of the Sword." Sequels in the "Alien," "Transformers" and "Pirates of the Caribbean" franchises also disappointed. The business is also reckoning with broader, longer-term threats that have kept Americans from flocking to theaters the way they used to. People now have more entertainment options than ever, and cinemas have struggled to keep up, despite efforts to adapt with improved technology and services, industry analysts say. The problem is exacerbated by an unforgiving social media environment in which bad movies are immediately punished by online word of mouth.

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  1. I can't be arsed by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    to go pay $15 dollars to watch a movie meant primarily for the Chinese. Start making movies for America again and I might show up. And that means more complex plots and dialog (which are harder to dub) few or no foreign product placements (which make no sense and break the movie flow even worse than regular product placements) and stop randomly including Chinese actors (I'm lookin' at you Rogue One).

    Hollywood stopped making movies for me so I stopped going. Go figure.

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    1. Re:I can't be arsed by ph0rk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Donnie Yen was probably the best thing in Rogue One. What are you smoking?

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    2. Re: I can't be arsed by The+Evil+Atheist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The no-profit thing has nothing to do with piracy. It's to do with screwing people on their contracts.

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    3. Re:I can't be arsed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Where do racist screwballs like you come from? Where is my /.? Anyway, your analysis misses the obvious as most racist analysis does. One Chinese actor does not make it a hit in China. The fundamental problem with Rogue One, Transformers, Aliens is that they are recycling 1980s concepts (that is 30 year if you can't count). Since they weren't interested in coming up with some new concept, it is unlikely they want to invest in writing. They are paying for it. By the way, ignoring 1.5 Billion paying customers because the product may offend a lonely racist dirtbag is a good way to go out of business.

    4. Re: I can't be arsed by sheramil · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Pirates is the only one with superstar actors in it. Of course the Mummy had Tom Cruise but he's no Brendan Fraser.

      fix'd.

    5. Re: I can't be arsed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The CCP to the citizens - "Know who your master is, or I will remind you again with the PLA"

      The first priority of the CCP is to protect the CCP. All other concerns are secondary.

    6. Re:I can't be arsed by Gussington · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most ignorantly racist post I've read on slashdot all fucking day.

      The fact that, at time of posting, it's +3 insightful, is deeply saddening.

      Don't confuse culturism with racism. I'm neither American nor Chinese, but it's obvious that the target market for Hollywood producers is shifting away from the local market.
      And this is not just movies, there is cultural tide moving away from European origin cultures toward foreign markets. It's real and it's disturbing to a lot of people. And as long people keep brushing it off as simple racism, people like Donald Trump will thrive.

    7. Re:I can't be arsed by danbert8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why can't Hollywood come up with a decent parody movie anymore? Where are the Airplane!s and the Spaceballs?

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    8. Re: I can't be arsed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You present no evidence that voter ID and other laws have anything to do with race. Meanwhile, a dozen counties had more registered voters than people eligible to vote ( http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/NVRA-letter-CA-August-2017-1.pdf ), and that is just one class of voting problems in one state.

      Meanwhile, the candidate that lost the presidency that called black kids in gangs "super predators ( https://youtube.com/watch?v=8k4nmRZx9nc) is less racist than a man whose daughter converted to Judaism for her Jewish husband, had a skull cap at the western wall in Jerusalem ( http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170522092440-02-trump-western-wall-0522-exlarge-169.jpg), and has supported Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for decades ( http://thebronxchronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/IMG_20160228_001701-1.jpg ).

      You are either deluded, a compulsive liar, blind with rage at your candidate losing, or a paid shill.

  2. So it wasn't just me by thesjaakspoiler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    thinking why the heck TV-series were more interesting than the movies....

    1. Re:So it wasn't just me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      thinking why the heck TV-series were more interesting than the movies....

      I started dating a new girl a month ago. We have been wanting to go out for a movie for some time now. Not a single movie has been interesting enough that we didn't just decide to do something else. Movies are so bad we'd rather walk in the Florida heat & rain. Now that's saying something!

  3. Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Perhaps we're tired of actors political bullshit.

  4. Wrong Script by Art+Challenor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This cannot possibly be the fault of the studios/movie makers. The obvious problem is illegal downloading and something about Amazon, YouTube, Netflix,or somebody not paying their fair share for legal downloads.

  5. Punished.....as they should be. by homes32 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Love how they try to pin their failure on social media. Point in fact: Your movies sucked. Just because we can now tell people quickley and en mass how badly they sucked does not chamge the fact. Why should hollywood be rewarded by paying customers for producing trash?

  6. then lets do the math for them! by nimbius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "The Mummy" This will be the fifth or sixth movie with the same plot, but different cast. we skipped the FX budget and hoped no one would notice, which did a great job exposing our shoddy subplot and writing.
    "Baywatch": this show ran for 12 years as a surrogate for softcore porn on basic cable/rabbit ears. in 2017 the plot and dialogue of this had better be great, otherwise the internets vast troves of adult content have crushed it before its even left the gate. the characters are, at best, totally untranslatable to millennials saddled with debt and ramen noodles.
    "The Dark Tower": What was this even about? character development died in the first 3 minutes (remember suicide squad?) but the whole movie worked tirelessly to complete the vision of a parking lot full of squirrels. This was a stephen king novel that was an excellent example of story telling but was, surprise, butchered by hacks to fit 90 minutes.
    "King Arthur: Legend of the Sword.": I know ill probably get crucified for saying this on slashdot but this died because it only related to white people who walk into a nation themed restaraunt and start quoting the noble percentage of "heritage" from which they draw themselves. Black heimdal, black spiderman, hispanic blue beetle, see a trend? its called reading the demographic properly. This film was basically lifted from the Disney ride by a baby boomer exec at a studio trying desperately to purge him from the ranks.
    "Alien," "Transformers" and "Pirates of the Caribbean" this is the sixth alien, the sixth transformers, and the fifth in the pirates series. Hollywood needs to learn that the cash cow for millennial audiences dies after #1 for films written at the 4th grade comprehension level. Watching Mark Wahlburg cash another check for something that looks scripted on the toilet, or Johnny Depp show up in another $pirate_film because he either picked up the phone or has poor retirement planning is something boomers do.

    tl;dr: the largest demographic youre trying to attract expects a little diversity, better scripting, and higher quality for an $11 ticket they could just skip and watch whenever it shows up on netflix when we're too stoned or bored to play steam games.

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    1. Re:then lets do the math for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Black heimdal, black spiderman, hispanic blue beetle, see a trend? its called reading the demographic properly.

      Or, maybe the blackening of older traditionally white characters instead of just inventing new cool black characters is what turned people off? Everyone knows 2016 was the seminal year for black cinema.

  7. Other Factors by sehlat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. Aging population. I'm "hearing-challenged" and the subtitles in theaters are horrible, hard to read, and NEVER at the same focal distance as the screen. These days if a movie doesn't have subtitles on the DVD, I don't bother. My family has to drag me to a theater, where I miss at least half of the dialogue.

    2. Discretionary income: It's dropping. Real wages have been dropping for decades. Add in how many young people are burdened with student debts and s**t jobs, and it's easier to avoid theaters and stay home.

  8. This summer had terminal squealitis by supremebob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I only watched a single movie (Dunkirk) this summer, mostly because almost every other major movie release was a:

    1) Squeal from a movie franchise that I've lost interest in
    2) Reboot of a movie franchise that I've lost interest in, possibly because I'm old enough to have seen the original movie back when it was... well... Original.
    3) Was yet another comic book movie (Do we really need more than 3 of these a year?)

  9. Fuck Movie Theaters -- they SUCK by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So I took Christopher Nolan's advice and saw Dunkirk at an IMAX this summer.

    Nolan's Cinematic Vision in 'Dunkirk' is Hollywood's Best Defense Against Netflix.
    He also wants you watch the movie in the theatre, and not on streaming service Netflix, which he says he rarely uses.

    There wasn't an IMAX close by so I had to take a hour ferry -- no big deal because I get to visit a good friend of mine. After paying for parking the dam theater entrance was on the back side of the building -- a 5 minute walk. OK, but this is "nickeling and diming" both literally and in travel time is starting to getting annoying. I then wander around for 10 minutes because some fucktard couldn't be arsed to put up a "Dunkirk" sign. They had a sign for another movie -- but that wasn't playing. And of course I go to the OTHER theater just to double check it wasn't playing there and of course it wasn't so back to the _first_ theater. ARGH.

    So with less then 5 minutes to spare I finally get a seat -- except it is near the Left edge of the theaters. Could be worse and I could be looking up.

    Except the "movie experience" is SHIT compared to home theater.

    * There was literally 20 fucking minutes of ads
    * Now I love _clean_ bass except the whole time this loud, booming bass was drowning out everything.

    Dunkirk was visually beautiful -- but I could have had a far BETTER experience on my 60" plasma at home.

    Movie Theaters SUCK compared to home theaters. Advantages are:

    * I always get the best set in the house
    * I always get to use the arm rest
    * Can pause the movie
    * Can rewind the parts I want in case I missed something or want to check something out
    * Go to the bathroom
    * Raid the fridge for snacks/drinks instead of over-paying for food
    * Turn on/off CC
    * Adjust the volume to MY liking
    * Don't have to listen to any idiots beside me constantly talking / snoring throughout the entire movie.

    Fuck Movie Theaters -- they SUCK.

    1. Re:Fuck Movie Theaters -- they SUCK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I modded you up so posting AC, lets not also forget

      *Asshats with celphones
      *Blurry picture, especially when the entire scene changes rapidly in one of the axis
      *Audio Bleedover, cause that thin wall tween you and the other amusement park rides surrounding you kills the mood
      *Temperature
      *The rush in and rush out

      The only pro I can think about the movie theater for me is the fact there is a good Mexican restaurant next door so one can get hammered, walk over and have a couple hours to sober up

  10. Crank up the prices, produce garbage movies by Snotnose · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and wonder why butts don't hit seats. Combine that with assholes who talk during the movie, assholes who text during the movie, and overpriced popcorn/cokes. Let me spend $500 on a nice TV that not only satisfies my needs night after night, but if I wait a couple months I can get a couple friends over to my house for a $2 rental, plus $1 popcorn, plus $2 coke, plus, um, who did I invite? Call it $20 for booze, less if I charge me friends for staying in the guest room.

    The movie business is changing, news at 11.

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    1. Re:Crank up the prices, produce garbage movies by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We went to a movie last month and were running late. I had wanted to stop by at a McDonalds or somewhere and get a bit to eat before the picture.

      We decided instead to buy some snacks at the theatre. My S.O. did that while I got the tickets.

      She ended up buying us each a 'hot pretzel' and a bottle of water and a tub of popcorn for us to share.

      The 'hot pretzel' was a big mass of dough on a plate.

      After we got out of the theater I happened to notice the recipt for the 'food.' The Hot Pretzels were like $14 each, the bottled waters were $5, the popcorn was I think about $8. Anyhow the 'snacks' were over $45 for two people. Unbelievable here in flyover country to pay that much for so little.

  11. Low quality and oversupply by NewWorldDan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I see two major problems:

    The low quality as addressed in TFA. Most of them weren't terrible, but they're not what anyone wanted. Good movies - Spider-man Homecoming, for example - did just fine. Reboots and sequels aren't inherently bad, if they're done well. Some have certainly used up whatever good will they had left.

    The other problem I'm seeing from a lot of people is oversupply. They've already watched everything on Netflix and Amazon and Hulu and HBO. They've gone to the buffet and eaten so much there's no appetite left. In the last decade, I've been given every superhero movie I could have possibly asked for. There isn't anything left to look forward to. Instead of watching movies, I'm doing other things, like making pottery. And waiting for something that's actually worth watching, like The Tick.

    In general, I suggest that studios once again become a little more selective about what they make, and most importantly, hire good writers. So much bad writing out there...

    1. Re:Low quality and oversupply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Add a complete lack of originality, plots aimed squarely at people whose brains have leaked out of their ears, and fellow audience members that match that description and think nothing of talking, making inane "funny" comments and using their phones the whole way through as well.

      Netflix et al have shown that there is a hunger for complex plots, character development and ambitious scope, but hollywood seems stuck putting out the same inexplicably expensive repetitive imbecility over and over and over again. Make better movies and people will come back, but until then...

  12. Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about I'm disgusted by the behavior of the Hollywood "elite" since November 2016 ?

    Maybe that is why I am not going to the movies anymore.

    I'm not sure why Hollywood stars think that ANYONE in the world gives a shit about what they think regarding politics. They are nothing but entertainers. Anyone who DOES care what they think about politics should have their head examined.

  13. Re:They don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think you will find American box offices sales have creative accounting so offshore untaxed profits can be hoovered up Apple style.

    The recent CGI and superhero gunk combined with teenage characters has left me pissed off - so getting my money is gunna be harder for the same tripe, Just wait till 80 inch TV sets are the norm - that will slow growth too.

    I also think rest of world sales will be heading down if wages don't rise soon, and that tourists make up most watchers in places like Cambodia and Thailand.

  14. Make better movies again by AHuxley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Listen to the critics. Stop pushing for really positive reviews on social media to sell very average movies.
    Select scripts with more care so people in the USA can enjoy a movie.
    Find much better actors that more people actually enjoy seeing in a movie.
    Find actors on merit who test well with audiences for the needed role.
    That might be a new face or an actor thats been liked for decades. Test and see who would work well for a given role. Dont just place an actor in a role for some other reason.
    Find better funding so fun movies do not have to be altered to fit in with the history, faith or politics of other nations or groups.
    Sell the freedom and fun of Americana to the world. The USA has freedom of speech, sell that globally. Any other nation can do a boring censored movie.
    Stop trying to sell America and the world on very limited scripts.
    Consider mini series to fill out franchises with complex plots.
    If a new movies has hours of backstory to past movies to remove that would have been better as a series.
    People on average like a hero, fun and drama. Stop trying to push politics or placate the people providing the funds. Audiences want a story not a lecture for the price.
    If a script has to be censored, walk away from that funding.

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  15. Re:New movies suck by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is there a special word for a female who believe it's :
        - cool to be a girl
        - doesn't believe the world is out to get her
        - doesn't need every company in the world to prove how pro-woman they are by treating women as if they need to be told how special they are until it starts sounding like how we call disabled people "Special"
        - doesn't think it's cool that she has to wonder whether she got the job because she's qualified... or worse...
        - doesn't think it's cool that a lot of her colleagues around her believe she got the job to fill the quota

    I think you get the point.

    I was driving my 13 year old daughter and her friend home from kick-boxing practice the other day. No joke.,. cute little girls... big smiley faces... making all kinds of funny jokes.... home from kickboxing.

    I asked "Did you two enjoy trying to cause each other physical injury today?" and they explained all the fun things they did like practicing punching each other in the stomach for half an hour for conditioning.

    I asked "Don't you think hurting each other is maybe a little bit of a bad way to treat your friend. And they giggled and tittered as if they were playing with Barbies and explained that they do it to each other because they're friends".

    I asked about their enemies. I was told "What enemies?"

    They then continues to discuss a new elective class they chose for the new school year they're taking. It's about electronics and mechanical things. They will learn some electronics and how to make simple robots, some programming on Arduino, etc... it sounded great ... then they started talking about friend from other schools and how those kids were able to take programming but they were upset that they weren't given the option.

    Then they went home to play OverWatch with their friends.

    Here are two girls... who are REALLY REALLY well suited for being in environments entirely outnumbered by men. Even by men who will think it's find to call them "Sweetheart" and it won't phase them at all. They do all the things guys do... they don't look around them and see guys and girls. They gravitate towards each other at kickboxing and such because they like hanging with girls better. They kill each other in Overwatch with friends of all types...

    So instead of a girl who thinks there's a need to make a point out of being a girl. And being a girl who thinks she has to prove herself because she's a girl. What is a word that describes a girl who simply doesn't give a shit about that and simply fits in everywhere and makes people smile while she's around?

    P.S. - As a father of a little girl... I have to admit I was quite pleased she and her friend decided that kickboxing would be their thing. We live near enough to a city that our main form of recreation is coffee shops downtown. And when she gets older, it's nice to know that she should be prepared to fight back against knuckle draggers.

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  17. Re:translation.... by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You gotta give them credits, they're more stupid than even the British with Brexit.

    Debatable. Trump can't last more than eight years, it's like in the rules and all that.

    The Brexit mess will still be there twenty years down the line.

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