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'Pay With Your Face' Technology Tested in a KFC Store In China (qz.com)

An anonymous reader quotes Quartz: Ant Financial, the financial services spinoff of e-commerce giant Alibaba, announced Friday it has rolled out a service with a KFC branch in Hangzhou, in eastern China, that lets customer pay for orders with their faces. It works just as one might expect -- diners approach a virtual menu, select the item they want to purchase, and then choose "facial scan" as a payment option. Users must input their phone numbers as an extra layer of verification, but the technology still works even if one's phone is turned off, an Ant Financial spokesperson tells Quartz.

A promotional video shows a young female customer scanning her face while donning a wig and appearing with friends, to tout that the technology can recognize an individual even if they are disguised or in a group... [T]he KFC partnership marks the first time it has been rolled out for commerce. An Ant Financial spokesperson tells Quartz that it intends to roll out the scanning at more locations later.

There's rumors of a similar service coming from Jd.com, according to the article, which also provides several examples of facial recognition technology being used by the Chinese government. "The Communist Party, facing no political opposition or democratic checks, can implement controversial technology with little pushback. This all means that facial recognition in China looks set to steadily move beyond a few novelty cases toward near ubiquity."

59 comments

  1. Getting sick of these fast food advertisements... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First it was Burger King, then Pizza Hut, and now KFC. Want to bet Taco Bell tries a drone delivery in Mongolia next?

  2. Facial recognition in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    But how? They all look the same..

    1. Re: Facial recognition in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes... I'm going to hell for that one...

    2. Re: Facial recognition in China? by lbmouse · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean Naraka?

    3. Re: Facial recognition in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  3. How is this better? by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    I don't get how this is better. It doesn't seem faster, more reliable, or more secure than using a mobile phone for payment. Add the creepiness of a company taking pictures of you and I can't see a good reason for this when we already have other technologies that make payments quick and painless.

    1. Re:How is this better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing to do with better. It's all about surveillance. Remember the country...

    2. Re:How is this better? by toonces33 · · Score: 1

      Then they can ID you and sell the customer information to insurance companies.

    3. Re:How is this better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      once facial recognition becomes super accurate and ubiquitous you won't need to used a mobile phone for payments. Conceivably, you won't even need to carry a wallet or purse or even ID. Might be problem for accident victims who sustained facial injuries, though.

    4. Re:How is this better? by meerling · · Score: 1

      Considering that facial recognition is still in it's infancy and basically sucks with far too high of a failure rate, not just that it doesn't recognize someone it should, but also recognizes people as the wrong people, AND this sucker is linked to your wallet/bank account, I'd avoid it like the plague as it's still far too risky with little to no benefit for me.

    5. Re:How is this better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They like to take blood samples too, just in case someone important needs a transplant they need to know who's going to have an "accident".

    6. Re:How is this better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is infinitely better than the alternate proposal: "Pay with your Ass." :)

  4. Fuck KFC and FUCK CHINA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The dystopia you always imagined.

    1. Re:Fuck KFC and FUCK CHINA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They want to constantly track/spy on all your activities under the guises of efficiency and convenience.

    2. Re:Fuck KFC and FUCK CHINA by boundary · · Score: 1

      Worse, they want you to eat KFC. Monsters.

  5. Hmmm, what would it cost by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    for the plastic surgery needed to make me look like Bill Gates?

    1. Re:Hmmm, what would it cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A mask or printed picture would probably be enough to fool it as well .

  6. Too easy to fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this 'takes off', the facial payment automat will soon become an unattended device.

    So what will prevent people from holding up a life-sized picture of someone else? The need to also know their phone number doesn't make it much harder.

    1. Re:Too easy to fake by meerling · · Score: 1

      Phone numbers are really easy to get! Heck, with a phone book and facebook you could probably get all the info you needed to scam most people.

  7. Re:Getting sick of these fast food advertisements. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

    Want to bet Taco Bell tries a drone delivery in Mongolia next?

    I would bet against it. Chinese (and presumably Mongolians) don't care much for Mexican food, There were a few Taco Bells in China, but they closed a decade ago.

  8. Pay with my face? by devnullkac · · Score: 1

    That's what happened after I kicked my brother!

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    What do you mean they cut the power? How can they cut the power, man? They're animals!
  9. Re:I feel sorry for Zhang Wei by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Informative

    They all look alike to me.

    Asian faces have just as much variance as European faces. If you spend time around Asians, your facial recognition neural network will reprogram itself, and you will have little difficulty recognizing individuals.

    Btw, Asians think white people all look alike.

  10. Pay with your face in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I know china's the mecca of organ harvesting, but paying for some chicken with your face is a bit over the top. Still, I wonder what a face transplant costs over there.

  11. new Hollywood franchise by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    Now Nicolas cage and John Travolta will start fighting again, this time over burgers.

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    Nullius in verba
    1. Re:new Hollywood franchise by meerling · · Score: 1

      As long as we don't have to watch, or listen to it, I don't really care. (I don't like either of them.)

  12. If you had a coupon.... by Templer421 · · Score: 1

    Would that be saving face? ;)

  13. moar liek in WATTS, COMPTON, INGLEWOOD.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    prepare for next LA Riots.

  14. Who's payin that credit card bill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With a billion people all using one account and credit card, who is payin that one bill???

  15. If they keep eating at KFC... by MindPrison · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Their face won't be recognizable after a few visits.

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    What this world is coming to - is for you and me to decide.
    1. Re:If they keep eating at KFC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      KFC already has this technology in the US. As you can see, it is widely in use:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEQNw_shwYI
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-2WemWWQRg
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImaBjj26i9A ... etc

    2. Re:If they keep eating at KFC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it can be adaptive:

      cameras in the bathroom will capture your face as you involuntarily expel lunch from your bowels so they have an accurate reference for the next time you buy lunch.

      in the rare edge case of actually being able to 'hold it in' until you get home or elsewhere, you can snap a selfie while on the shitter with an app on your phone.

    3. Re:If they keep eating at KFC... by Badger+Nadgers · · Score: 1

      But as the number of spots increases, so does the number of distances and angles between the spots on their face, thus increasing the system's accuracy

  16. Re:Getting sick of these fast food advertisements. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Security guards for rock concerts protect the back stage area from being overrun with groupies. Specific groupies are given the offer to "pay with their mouth", however.

  17. Slashdot readers tried to pay with their face by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But since they were so handsome, the machine just kept giving all the food away for free.

  18. What can possibly go wrong? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    Convenience instead of security. Yup, that's always a better approach.

  19. Re:I feel sorry for Zhang Wei by meerling · · Score: 2

    Mine won't, I have a rather measurable level of face blindness. For me, recognizing Asian faces is just as hard as recognizing ANY face.

  20. Re:Getting sick of these fast food advertisements. by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    "First it was Burger King, then Pizza Hut, and now KFC."

    These being US companies, let's hope not every Chinese looks the same to their computers..

  21. Duke nukem quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your face, your @rse, what's the difference?

    1. Re:Duke nukem quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your face, your @rse, what's the difference?

      For you, not so much.

  22. Re:I feel sorry for Zhang Wei by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

    That is just typically a silly little joke and minor harmless ribbing.

    In fact, I have a little twist on that one that I use myself.

    "Eh, Chinese, Japanese, Korean... Those Asian gals look the same... Hot." :D

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    This space unintentionally left blank.
  23. Not a new technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Women have been paying for lots of things with their faces since the dawn of time.

  24. If it works in China.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it works in China it will work anywhere.

    That's pretty amazing technology.

  25. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whenever I eat at KFC I pay with my whole body.

  26. Re:I feel sorry for Zhang Wei by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    If you spend time around Asians, your facial recognition neural network will reprogram itself, and you will have little difficulty recognizing individuals.

    I have actually seen this effect: after several years in Asia, I came home and at first everybody looked alike.

  27. What happens with identical twins? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Will they be required to get (1) distinguishing tattoos, or (2) a joint set of bank accounts and credit cards?

  28. Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One face scan = 1 billion purchases because they all look alike.

    Posting AC because humor of any kind makes you a nazi member of the KKK to SJWs.

  29. Pay with you face? Sounds painful!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do they remove the face? And how do you eat without cheeks?

    So not worth it! Don't do it!

  30. pay with your face? by 4wdloop · · Score: 1

    so an arm and a leg no longer enough in China?

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    4wdloop
  31. No thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't really like the idea of taking chicken in exchange for my face.

  32. Biometric authentication by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    Please remind me, was facial scan already hacked by some Chaos Computer Club member, or is it the next news?

    Biometric authentication is always wrong because authentication credentials are public and cannot be changed. Once someone finds a way to fool the system, there is no password chage, the only fix is to replace it entirely.

  33. Pay With Your Ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually rectum recognition could be significantly more reliable than facial recognition.

    The pucker pattern of every asshole is unique.

    And I just like the idea of mooning the drive-through to pay for burgers.

  34. not fair by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    Totally discriminates against identical twins. Lawsuit pending I'm sure.

  35. Currently in Ulaanbaatar: Good Mexican chow here by bdwoolman · · Score: 1

    Tacos at MexiKhan are great. As are the other items. Popular with the locals, too. Salsa lessons every Saturday. Run by a charming Cubano gentleman named Ernesto. Mongolians are quite different from the Chinese. Just ask them.

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    "No fear. No envy. No meanness." Liam Clancy
  36. Hacked! by Badger+Nadgers · · Score: 1

    by Clearasil.

  37. Ex... by kristofer.vesi · · Score: 1

    Your ex will have your photo and your phone number. Now your ex has ""free"" KFC

  38. It's Been Done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Mob perfected Pay With Your Face long ago!

    Amateurs. This is why you need to hire Goodfellas.