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AI Could Lead To Third World War, Elon Musk Says (theguardian.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Elon Musk has said again that artificial intelligence could be humanity's greatest existential threat, this time by starting a third world war. The prospect clearly weighs heavily on Musk's mind, since the SpaceX, Tesla and Boring Company chief tweeted at 2.33am Los Angeles time about how AI could led to the end of the world -- without the need for the singularity. His fears were prompted by a statement from Vladimir Putin that "artificial intelligence is the future, not only for Russia, but for all humankind ... It comes with colossal opportunities, but also threats that are difficult to predict. Whoever becomes the leader in this sphere will become the ruler of the world." Hashing out his thoughts in public, Musk clarified that he was not just concerned about the prospect of a world leader starting the war, but also of an overcautious AI deciding "that a [pre-emptive] strike is [the] most probable path to victory." Musk added, "Competition for AI superiority at national level most likely cause of WW3 in my opinion. [...] Govts don't need to follow normal laws. They will obtain AI developed by companies at gunpoint, if necessary."
I dunno. I see AI with decicion making powers happening at the tactical and theatre levels: semi autonomous weapons that are given a mission and the execute it with leeway to adjust along the way, or an AI coordinating troops and autonomous units. Enough options for a rogue AI to cause terrible damage, but not really something that will spark WW3 before humans can intervene.
At the strategic level, AI could well support decision making, but what would be the value of actually putting the AI in charge there? That makes sense only if you need to make split second decisions, or launch a counterstrike even if all meatbag commanders are dead. That's a cold war standoff scenario; I don't see it being really useful for anything else.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
I dunno. I see AI with decicion making powers happening at the tactical and theatre levels: semi autonomous weapons that are given a mission and the execute it with leeway to adjust along the way, or an AI coordinating troops and autonomous units. Enough options for a rogue AI to cause terrible damage, but not really something that will spark WW3 before humans can intervene.
At the strategic level, AI could well support decision making, but what would be the value of actually putting the AI in charge there? That makes sense only if you need to make split second decisions, or launch a counterstrike even if all meatbag commanders are dead. That's a cold war standoff scenario; I don't see it being really useful for anything else.
You're thinking of the incremental advances from current AI. That will certainly be leveraged, but eventually we will come up with general AI in a way which can be accomplished using available resources. That's decades away according to most people, but any country that develops it first can literally out-think the others in everything, unless they don't have enough lead time. Every government in the world would go to war for that power or to keep that power out of the hands of another.
Real lawyers write in C++
Natural Stupidity leading to World War seems fare more realistic and much closer.
Could we do something about our various imbeciles in power before we look at some hypothetical AI threat?
We've been plagued by these idiots for a while now and they are spreading.
Irrelevant news and morons using moderation to mod down what they disagree on. 2018 resolution: so long.
Even if you get him out of office first, then charge him with crimes, Pence will pardon him as his first act as president.
Pence isn't going to throw away a chance at getting re-elected in 2020.
Interesting! For once I agreed with him regarding AI and the key phrase was "without singularity".
Do we deny, however, that "simple machine learning" (which the journalists, corporate PR, and therefore politicians call AI) applied on big data can be used (very successfully) as social engineering tool? Or tool for economic and military advantage? What follows form that? War, pure and simple.
Such - let's take the social part - powerful tool (how many stories per day about censorship, using bid data to come after people, change minds, push agendas, Google pushing whatever, MZ for president, fake news, spying on friends, spying on enemies, requiting trrists, hacking elections, etc. we have) brings completely new opportunities on he table. And it is powerful - wars are lost due to public opinion (Vietnam!). And guess who is first with the knife and fork ready to exploit the new possibilities? Politics, the eternal damnation of out civilization...Just that, social part of it...but some will argue that it is the most powerful one, above the pure military applications which are, of course yet another can of giant anacondas...assume that I have written as much on that part as above with one "call a friend" phrase to guide you - "arms race". And another equally long one on the economic warfare in the context of "AI".
AI certainly deserves the " " at the moment and if Penrose is to be believed it will forever be like that. I don't know and from pure geek point of view I am very eager for humanity to give it its best shot. Alas, that "not AI at all" machine learning is enough for WWIII. I agree with Elon.
if it wasnt elon, I'd say it's a stretch.
by now I'm convinced that the guy is a hack. he doesn't know half the shit he talks about and does it mostly to keep his house of cards going on when he does it.
for him an invention is buying something and putting it on a product - then selling himself as the inventor. he would like to be tony stark, but he is so far off from that he doesn't understand the difference between AI and automation. seriously, he doesn't. he doesn't understand conceptually they are different things - for him and to the people he wants to sell to a lane follower is intelligence, not automation.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.