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Creator of Opera Says Google Deliberately Undermined His New Vivaldi Web Browser (wired.co.uk)

The latest allegation against Google? Jon von Tetzchner, creator of the web browser Opera, says the search giant deliberately undermined his new browser, Vivaldi. Rowland Manthorpe, writing for Wired: In a blogpost titled, "My friends at Google: it is time to return to not being evil," von Tetzchner accuses the US firm of blocking Vivaldi's access to Google AdWords, the advertisements that run alongside search results, without warning or proper explanation. According to Von Tetzchner, the problem started in late May. Speaking at the Oslo Freedom Forum, the Icelandic programmer criticised big tech companies' attitude toward personal data, calling for a ban on location tracking on Facebook and Google. Two days later, he suddenly found Vivaldi's Google AdWords campaigns had been suspended. "Was this just a coincidence?" he writes. "Or was it deliberate, a way of sending us a message?" He concludes: "Timing spoke volumes." Von Tetzchner got in touch with Google to try and resolve the issue. The result? What he calls "a clarification masqueraded in the form of vague terms and conditions." The particular issue was the end-user license agreement (EULA), the legal contract between a software manufacturer and a user. Google wanted Vivaldi to add one to its website. So it did. But Google had further complaints. According to emails shown to WIRED, Google wanted Vivaldi to add an EULA "within the frame of every download button." The addition was small -- a link below the button directing people to "terms" -- but on the web, where every pixel matters, this was a potential competitive disadvantage. Most gallingly, Chrome, Google's own web browser, didn't display a EULA on its landing pages. Google also asked Vivaldi to add detailed information to help people uninstall it, with another link, also under the button.

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  1. Re:Why Would Google Bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This seems to be more about silencing criticism of Google than stopping Vivaldi. Stopping Vivaldi is the punishment, not the objective.

  2. Re:If Goog doesn't follow the standard, sue them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It would cost him all his money and years of appeals to get anything from Google, who has both the time and money to fight anything.

    If he loses, he loses everything. If he wins, he gets some money, most of which will be taken by lawyers after years of fighting. Then what? He's basically right back where he started.

    For the most part, suing a large company is completely broken. The only people winning are the lawyers.

  3. Echoes of the Borg (Microsoft) by J+Story · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Once upon a time, when Microsoft ruled the world, its Internet Explorer was undisputed King of browsers. But when upstart browsers started to make inroads, Microsoft baked its browser into the bowels of Windows, making it not only preinstalled, but impossible to remove. Believe it or not, Microsoft spun this borgian action as a Good Thing, making sure that the "user experience" was up to Microsoft's standards. Now, however, it seems to be Google that is swinging its hefty weight around, positioning its ever growing assimilation of the Internet as something it's doing for our own good.

  4. Monopoly by fluffernutter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People keep saying Google isn't a monopoly, but if it can use tactics to make the market unattainable for everyone else. is that not what it is?

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    1. Re:Monopoly by Ayano · · Score: 1, Insightful

      People are mad because google is popular and is now using it's popularity to snuff smaller corps out which suddenly outrages people. That confuses me, it's not like a credit rating company where you have no choice. These disgusted people keep using google and giving all sorts of generic excuses for 'having to use it'. Nobody has to use google, Just because they expect super car Bugatti features doesn't mean other cars don't exist. It's like libre office users, sure everyone might be using office 365, but I don't have to use it.

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  5. Re:Vivaldi. by Inviska · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Guess what? When you make a Chrome-clone, you have to do what the people who make Chrome want you to do. Shocking, isn't it?

    No, that's not the way open source software works. The Blink rendering engine is released under the BSD license, and placing instructions for uninstalling the software next to the download link is not a requirement of that licence. Vivaldi is required to fulfil the terms of the licences under which Chromium is released, no more and no less.

    Besides, Google isn't even using the Chromium licence to manipulate Vivaldi. They're claiming that Vivaldi isn't meeting the terms of Google AdWords, and is using that to force Vivaldi to jump through hoops.

    Google has been abusing its monopoly position with alarming regularity recently, and clearly intervention is necessary. Unfortunately, any intervention will likely be in the form of a fine, which helps nobody. In situations like this the only real solution is to split Google into multiple companies, each of which gets a copy of the search engine code and full data set. The companies can then compete against each other from the same initial starting point. When presented with real competition their ability to be evil is significantly limited.

  6. Duck it -- was Re:Monopoly by GLMDesigns · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One reason that it might not be classified as a monopoly is that WE can easily bring Google down.

    I've stopped using Chrome. I use Brave exclusively and have been very happy with it.

    I use DuckDuckGo and use the !G to get google results. As far as I know (and I'm willing to be corrected on this) Google doesn't receive any revenue from this DuckDuckGo search.

    So, instead of saying Google it - say Duck it.

    You don't have to stop using Google but if Google's market share drops from 88% to 50% and Chrome takes a huge hit (after all Brave is basically as good as Chrome) then you will have done your part in slapping Google upside the head.

    Oh - and protonmail is an excellent privacy-centric email server. (although it's free version allows only 150 emails per day).

    Still testing out zoho.com so I don't know how they compare to Google Docs.

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    1. Re:Duck it -- was Re:Monopoly by roca · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Brave's good but using it still aids Google since you're increasing the market share of Chromium, which Google controls; by making Chromium more dominant, you increase Google's power over the Web.

      If you want to do your bit to reduce corporate power over the Web, Firefox is pretty much the only choice these days.

  7. Re:"Return" to "not being evil"? by dnaumov · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wait a minute... he's expecting Google to HELP him advertise a competing browser that's based off of Google's open source offerings?

    Umm, yes? When you have a monopoly position, different rules apply.