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Like Netflix? T-Mobile Is Giving it Away For Free (cnet.com)
Roger Cheng, writing for CNET: T-Mobile and Netflix are new BFFs. The primary beneficiaries of this new friendship will be subscribers to T-Mobile's "One" unlimited data plans, many of whom will get access to Netflix for free, T-Mobile CEO John Legere said on an "Un-carrier Next" webcast video on Wednesday. But the freebie only works if you have at least two T-Mobile One unlimited data plans (single line customers are out of luck). The free Netflix access arrives on Sept. 12. The alliance is just the latest proof that the worlds of video and mobile are colliding. AT&T is in the process of buying Time Warner -- home of "Game of Thrones" and Batman -- so it can own more of the content you watch, and has bundled HBO for free to some of its higher end wireless customers. Verizon has invested in creating short-form video geared towards younger audiences and a mobile video service called Go90.The offer is for the T-Mobile ONE plan with 2+ lines. You can compare T-Mobile plans here.
All the good specials seem to be geared towards multiple lines- buy one get, get one free phones (Otherwise pay full price for just one), lower rate plans, etc.. T-Mobile, which brands itself as "the uncarrier" is as bad or worse as any of them when it comes to this.
Hey, some people can't find spouses and don't have kids. Why should they pay more for phones and phones service?
Less churn on family plans as it's more difficult.
The worst-case scenario of not having network neutrality is ISPs altering or blocking content. The second worst-case scenario is ISPs partnering with web sites and offering their content for free. Amazon and Hulu should compete on product, not on having special deals with local monopolies. Can you imagine the outcry if your local power company gave free power to Kitchenaid appliances but not Whirlpool appliances, or to the PlayStation 4 but not the XBox? That would be such a clear abuse of monopoly power that we would never stand for it. We need to stop this from happening on the internet.
Reminder. If you're not paying, you are the product being sold.
It's a simple fact of life that anything done in bulk costs you less. Why do you want to ignore this fundamental economic fact?
It's not as if single people are being PUNISHED, it's that people who purchase in bulk are being REWARDED for more purchases. Why do you choose to look at this in a negative light?
Also of course, if you feel the benefit is so massive there's nothing stopping you from buying two lines for just yourself.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I called to cancel my subscription to the Wall Street Journal because I was rearranging my budget. Not only did I get an $8 per month discount for six months, I also got Amazon Prime for free.
They should only offer these promotions to heterosexual Buddhists who voted for Bernie Sanders. And only in Hawaii or N. Dakota.
Why the focus on the ISPs?
Compared to the social media websites that censor or delete non-leftist content, or compared to the domain name registrars that drop non-leftist registrants, or compared to the web hosts that stop serving certain non-leftist customers, the ISPs have generally been quite neutral.
The recent assaults on content, individuals or organizations that aren't staunchly leftist is far more concerning at this time than anything the ISPs are doing.
It's not even just so-called "right wing" content, individuals or organizations who are falling victim to this censorship. We're seeing moderates, political centrists, and even some on the political near-left being affected, too.
Basically anyone or any content that isn't politically far left is seeing widespread censorship to some degree or another.
We even see this happening here at Slashdot. Just look at any submission that focuses on climate change, for example. Anyone who isn't expressing an extreme leftist viewpoint is attacked and downmodded. Then there are the near-daily submissions that attack President Trump. If you dare show any sort of support for him, be prepared to be attacked.
The neutrality of the method of transmission becomes less important when it's the parties involved at the far end of the transmission that are the ones engaging in censorship.
I just cancelled my subscriptions to the Washington Post and the New York Times. They are way too conservative.
"...the freebie only works if you have at least two T-Mobile One unlimited data plans..."
Gee, I only have to spend an obscene amount of money per month on a cell plan in order to get this "freebie".
Fuck common sense budgeting and financial planning...who needs that shit when you have millennial math and YOLO.
when it requires a specific wireless plan at a minimum monthly cost of $120 (plus taxes and fees) plus the cost of at least two handsets.
Try getting your news from outside the USA then. The USA has a huge conservative bias.
Hey, some people can't find spouses and don't have kids. Why should they pay more for phones and phones service?
It's because as the number of lines goes up, the amount used per line tends to drop. Families tend to have one or two heavy users. That's the reason that many carriers tend to make the 3rd and 4th line almost free. They know that those lines are likely going to be used considerably less. Also plans are tailored to the heaviest user. The heaviest user needs unlimited so everyone is on unlimited. If all lines were the same price then only the heavy user would choose the unlimited plan and the rest would go find cheaper plans.
NFL ST (NFL verizon local games) CSN Philly (past) are the more locked in site of things.
But it's not HBO NOW it's HBO GO/ HBO Main feed and you need to buy an basic tv package to get it.
If you had at least 1 friend, you would find that it is possible for 2 unrelated people to have a group account and split the bill each month.
Joke's on them. My youngest daughter uses more data than my other three lines combined...and hers is the fourth line! Take that Verizon!
It's because as the number of lines goes up, the amount used per line tends to drop.
I think that's the rhetoric, but I don't believe that's the reason... it doesn't make sense as a reason. Those other lines are not just extra lines the same person is (not) using, they're other people. They'll average the same amount of usage as single customers would average.
Regardless of how much they use, IMO it's more about customer retention. I'm fairly certain that customer turn over is the more expensive part, and the more folks you can get them to add in on the same plan, the less chance anyone in that group will be able to convince everyone else to go to a new carrier (which usually means new device as well, which means moving all contacts/apps/etc, and the cost to move, and the headache, and coordinating a date when everyone can make that move... it's just not going to happen).
Who would give a shit about this lame benefit?
> Can you imagine the outcry if your local power company gave free power to Kitchenaid appliances but not Whirlpool appliances, or to the PlayStation 4 but not the XBox?
This would be FANTASTIC news. Free power is free power, whatever you fucking libtard statists think. We need more competition not less, and big fat inefficient government regulation is the worst kind of market destruction possible.
And what did T-Mobile promise to give Netflix in this deal? The dollars lost on existing 2-line accounts already paying for Netflix and now will get it for free is probably not a small amount. I can only guess T-Mobile promised weaponized customer meta-data.
Less churn on family plans as it's more difficult.
Used to work for a carrier. This is the correct answer.
The same principles applies when bundling services, e.g., cable/phone/internet.
If the change is made slightly more inconvenient and complicated, it becomes much less likely to happen.
Advice about Christopher Dale Reimer:
I am Nancy Guerrero and I am Director of Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education. We use Chris' (a.k.a. creimer,cdreimer) picture in our document because he is the hardest case we have ever had to handle:
http://www.sccoe.org/depts/stu...
Our artists were inspired by the low carb diet that Christopher follows scrupulously for the small lunch box and by the picture linked below for the rest. I am sure that you will notice the similarities such as the bump on the side of his chest and more:
https://www.cdreimer.com/slash...
Please be easy on Christopher although, I am aware that some of our staff handling Chris post joke comments here and obvoiusly, the Santa Clara County Office of Education disapprove that behavior vehemently:
https://school.discoveryeducat...
But it isn't Chris' fault if he is the way he is. We do the best we can do with him and he is partially integrated into society. We try to cure his abnormal need for attention but he is kind of stubborn and won't listen to anybody.
Thank You dear users,
-Nancy Guerrero
Did you also call to cancel your Slashdot subscription? I notice you renamed your creimer account to __aaclcg7560 - will you use your copyrighted pen name from now on? It's good that you make your online personas so easy to link together, creimer.
By the way - shifting to use a new account will only result in this new account being down-modded eventually, too, unless you actually start contributing valuable commentary here. Maybe you should try that for a change.
Also - looks like the "6 month campaign" that never existed was at least marginally successful, eh?
Also, you may view old cdreimer shit posts here:
https://slashdot.org/~__aaclcg...
Is he now trying to hide or did /. management finally decided to close that account?
cdreimer has multiple accounts on /. to manipulate the system in order to post more affiliate link spam and moderate himself up.
https://www.kickingthebitbucke...
creimer is nevermore, move on assholes
move on assholes, creimer is nevermore
Spoken like somebody who has no friends or coworkers. I'm not aware of any of these carriers requiring that you live in the same household or even be relatives in order to make use of these deals. There's a reason why they're usually called friends and family plans.
You just have to know somebody that you can trust enough to pay their share of the bill in order to make good on the deals.
Depends on the carrier. T-Mobile doesn't do contracts any more. The only "penalty" that I'd face from canceling early is that I'd have to pay off whatever I still owe on the devices I financed through them.
T-Mobile seems to be going the customer loyalty route and they've managed to get just about every account I had. The only one I have left is internet, and that's purely because T-Mobile doesn't offer wired connections. Saved a crapload of money doing it too.
Unless you are talking hundreds of gigabytes, the joke is on you.
Interesting because he seems alive since he is answering here on one of his account, the cdreimer one...
move along troll, be bitter elsewhere
It is built into the price. Just sue them if they don't offer the same plan without it at a cheaper price.
game over man, game over
Looks like we cancelled our subscription to creimer.
YEEEEAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hehehehe...
Pretty soon you will be posting your affiliate spam as AC, just like APK!
Yahoo!!!!
That's what has been coming for long. We told you but as Nancy Guerrero says: You won't listen to anybody.
That's what you deserve now!
Thanks to all slashdot for the great work although it took a while ;-)
Thanks to all slashdot for the great work although it took a while ;-)
That creimer was on Slashdot for 10+ years. Time to run off the other SOB old timers!
Sure, we'll move on to __aaclcg7560 and cdreimer!
Asshole.
1) Who is bitter? About what?
2) creimer is at least as much a troll
3) he is free to move along as well
4) has he stopped raping his goats?
5) Adding a letter to his name won't change the irritating person he is.
I feel the same way, feels like we are being punished for being single. But there are studies that say buying in bulk can be wasteful if the unused goods could have been better used for something else. Besides you're better off spending valuable time on PlentyOfFish or OKCupid than watching reruns.
Re-arranging your budget? You mean going broke?
Of course he is going broke. He is on a Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education program for mentally disabled people and his supposed "employer" where he spends his days doesn't pay a dime to have him cleaning out closets. It is all paid by your tax money.
At Special Education, we recommended that he stopped doing what he was doing but he just wouldn't listen and on the contrary, he posted false information about us online and threatened us with all kind of civil law suits.
We had no choices but to go undercover to protect Santa Clara County Office of Education. Here is the plan that worked:
1) Have click bots clicking on his stupid links to make him believe he would get rich soon.
2) Stop the click bots at once to make him go haywire and frustrated thus digging his own grave and get modded down into oblivion.
It all worked out thanks to the help of our slashdot collaborators.
Thanks everybody,
-Nancy Guerrero.
are you retarded?
Really for someone who claims to possess the one-true-net-neutral theory you shure sound like a shill for t-mobile. You are utterly wrong in your analogy even though your first sentence is correct. No preference for transmission within a class of data. Delivering netflix for free means that people are paying more for all other classes.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Good to see you back on your meds, Chris, hopefully this time it will work for you!
Do I bring my voter registration card to the T-Mobile store in Fargo or Bismark?
Shave your neck. Maybe you'll get a wife.
Re-arranging your budget? You mean going broke?
When I added a $10 item to my budget, I had to reduce $10 elsewhere to balance my budget.
Good to see you back on your meds, Chris, hopefully this time it will work for you!
You're confusing me with someone else.
For someone as successful as you with such big Christmas bonuses and revenue streams, it's hard to conceive that 10$ is anything more than a rounding error?
Perhaps I am confusing you with someone else. I thought you were a winner, looks like you're a fat loser.
I didn't think TWO of you could fit into 475 sq. ft.!
So your first thought was to eliminate the thing that will educate you and expand your mind? Good thinking.
Don't eliminate the crappy granola bars and shitty coffee that wastes 5-10 a day and ruins your health... get rid of the good things in your life, and keep that junk!
and the more folks you can get them to add in on the same plan, the less chance anyone in that group will be able to convince everyone else to go to a new carrier (which usually means new device as well, which means moving all contacts/apps/etc, and the cost to move, and the headache, and coordinating a date when everyone can make that move... it's just not going to happen).
Most multiline plans are designed around a family and many have restrictions like shared data, shared billing, being able to see the location of everyone, etc.. in order to discourage roommates, etc.. from using a multiline plan. This means that in general, there is very little "convincing" or coordination dates needed. Mom, Dad, etc.. just changes everyone. I think the main advantage they get with multiline accounts is that they know that parents are likely not going to shell out $50+ a month for a line for their kid but an extra $20/month gives them $240 they wouldn't otherwise have. I do think this part does help with the lockin though as once you have 4 lines, the odds of all 4 being out of contract at the same time is lower.