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iPhone's Summer Production Glitches Create Holiday Jitters (wsj.com)

Yoko Kubota, Tripp Mickle, and Takashi Mochizuki, reporting for WSJ: Apple's new iPhone, which is expected to be unveiled Tuesday, was plagued by production glitches early in the manufacturing process this summer, according to people familiar with the situation, which could result in extended supply shortfalls and shipping delays when customers start ordering the device later this month (alternative source). New iPhones are typically in short supply when first released. But if shortfalls of the new phone extend beyond the initial sales period, which is expected to begin September 22, they could weaken analysts' and investors' projections for sales in the crucial holiday period. The production glitches led to a setback of about a month in the manufacturing timetable. Foxconn, the Apple contractor that assembles iPhones, has been ramping up production at its manufacturing complex in Zhengzhou, China. The company is paying bonuses to employees who can help bring new hires on board at its Zhengzhou plant, which Foxconn said in June employs about 250,000 people.

48 comments

  1. Too Bad So Sad by Scarletdown · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So it looks like many iPhone users are just going to have to keep using their current phone that they probably just recently upgraded to just a little longer then. Oh noes! How horrific!

    Or perhaps this will get at least a few off the constant upgrade treadmill at last when they realize the world didn't end just because they can't get the latest shiny nao.

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    1. Re:Too Bad So Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I kind of like watching them run the upgrade treadmill and chuckle inwardly when I think about how much money they are throwing down the drain that I am not. Although, it also would be comical if the new iPhones shipped with a problem that caused them to randomly detonate in the back pockets of the user too, I'll admit. Win-win, really.

    2. Re: Too Bad So Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound bitter, sweet tits.

      - Creimer (not logged in because of mods, yes I mod)

    3. Re:Too Bad So Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Detonate like the Samsung phones?

    4. Re:Too Bad So Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      chuckle inwardly when I think about how much money they are throwing down the drain that I am not.

      Sure, but we are getting the hot chicks, and you aren't. I need a new iPhone for the same reason that a bowerbird needs a bower.

    5. Re: Too Bad So Sad by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      (not logged in because of mods, yes I mod)

      So I'm confused.

      When you say, "not logged in because of mods", I think, "Oh, he doesn't like Mods!"

      However, when you say, yes I mod, it sounds like you do like them. Depending on the definition of what the phrase "I mod" is, Dr. Clinton.

      So what is it . . . ? : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    6. Re: Too Bad So Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who?

    7. Re: Too Bad So Sad by s.petry · · Score: 1

      I for one am glad to know that creimer can troll anonymously just as well as when logged in. And WTF is a mod point? I have not seen mod points in a year. Distribution broke during the last ownership change...

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    8. Re: Too Bad So Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except creimer left and had his 10-year-old account deleted.His bitter trolls are still trolling him, as if they have nothing better to do..

    9. Re: Too Bad So Sad by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      Creimer is neither a mod nor a rocker.

      Creimer's mom doesn't let him wear that sort of outfits out in public.

    10. Re: Too Bad So Sad by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      That is an account with a UID in the five millions. Certainly not ten years old.

      Don't be faking us that Creimer has quit. Oh, the outrage, you fraudster.

    11. Re:Too Bad So Sad by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 2

      Because only technical support from inanimate objects makes it possible for you to coax a woman to be near you?

    12. Re: Too Bad So Sad by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Creimer's mom doesn't let him wear that sort of outfits out in public.

      Well, that's just grand . . . so he is running around in the nude, wherever he is . . .

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    13. Re: Too Bad So Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is an account with a UID in the five millions. Certainly not ten years old.

      That's the new account to prevent his username from being reused. This was the old account with a place marker for creimer.

    14. Re:Too Bad So Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple should just stamp the previous model with this years number and everybody would be happy. Do even the hardcore iDiots know the difference between iPhone models?

  2. iPhone shortfall? Holiday Jitters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh no! Forget about Irma. This is a REAL emergency! To alleviate this problem, let's start the holiday season on the 4th of July instead of Labor Day. Better yet you should start it on Valentine's Day. Oh hell, just make it all year, like campaign season.

  3. No. by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I predict that this year the demand for shiny new electronic gadgets will be less, simply because the economy (real economy, not the Fed-reported propaganda) is bad. People have no money and they're up to their eyeballs in debt (at record levels now).

    Don't believe me? Box office receipts and retail numbers are tanking this year, because ordinary people have less disposable money (even as easy Fed monetary policy is keeping equity/real estate prices at record highs)

    Also not helping is Apple's (and Samsung's) insistence that useful, proven technology that works well (fingerprint scanner / Home button) must be discarded so they can make the screen fill up the entirety of the phone. What's gonna take the place of the fingerprint scanner? Face recognition. Except that for face recognition to work, you have to bring the phone up to the correct angle in front of your face, and your face can't be covered in shaving cream or green beauty mud or anything else. Oh and you can't be in bed with your face in the pillow while unlocking your phone now, you have to be make yourself presentable enough for the facial recognition to work.

    1. Re:No. by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't believe me? Box office receipts and retail numbers are tanking this year, because ordinary people have less disposable money (even as easy Fed monetary policy is keeping equity/real estate prices at record highs)

      Or new movies are shit and people prefer to buy stuff online because they don't get pressured by salespeople trying to keep up with ever increasing and desperate sales demands from struggling retailers.

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    2. Re:No. by svendsen · · Score: 2

      And to add on to everything you have said none of these new products actually do anything magically better, nor do they somehow improve life by using it. While electronic gadgets might get a little faster, a little more storage space, they are hitting a peak on useful functionality. May be a few years before we see anything actually new that will really impact day to day life.

    3. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Don't believe me? Here's some opinion unsupported by facts", he said.

      The mobile market is *growing*. 2016 was actually a slow year, but sales still grew ~2%. Predictions are that sales volume will grow even more in 2017.

      If you have any doubts, just type "mobile market growth" on Google and see for yourself. Here's a random link (fell free to blast the source and ignore reality):

      http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?...

      From that article: "[...] IDC believes 2017 will be a turnaround year for iPhone volumes with shipments expected to grow 4.9% over 2016." (there's a similar growth prediction for Android).

      No matter how you slice it, the market is growing. One would have to pull off some amazing acrobatics to pretend that this is not true.

    4. Re:No. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      People have no money and they're up to their eyeballs in debt (at record levels now). . . . Box office receipts and retail numbers are tanking this year, because ordinary people have less disposable money

      Correlation != causality. I would argue that Box office receipts are down because there were lots of terrible movies released and streaming content is on the rise. I would also argue that retail is hurting due to online sales.

      Also not helping is Apple's (and Samsung's) insistence that useful, proven technology that works well (fingerprint scanner / Home button) must be discarded so they can make the screen fill up the entirety of the phone. What's gonna take the place of the fingerprint scanner?

      Your assertion is that Apple has eliminated the fingerprint scanner on a phone not released. It's a rumor that Apple has done that. There are rumors that Apple has ditched the sensor because they couldn't get it to work under the screen but that it has the hardware. But these are all rumors.

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    5. Re:No. by enjar · · Score: 1

      Box office receipts and retail numbers are tanking this year, because ordinary people have less disposable money

      I still have disposable money, I just don't want to dispose of it on the pile of recycled offal that Hollywood pushed out this summer. I like going to the movies, it's been well-documented that this summer was a collection of absolute duds and scripts that should have been killed off at the concept phase.

    6. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I predict that this year the demand for shiny new electronic gadgets will be less, simply because the economy (real economy, not the Fed-reported propaganda) is bad. People have no money and they're up to their eyeballs in debt (at record levels now).

      I'm going to say that there's a good chance that you'll be proven wrong. You're making roughly the same mistake I did when I did not buy Apple stock many years ago. It is true that most Americans don't have two nickels to rub together. However, what I failed to realize then and what I think you're missing now is that most Americans willingly piss away money like water, which is one reason why they're not wealthy.

      If the iPhone 8 is compelling enough, everyone and his dog on welfare will buy the phone. If you're careful with your money and grew up in a circle of family and friends who are careful with your money, you just cannot believe how many paycheck-to-paycheck people live. It's mind-boggling to see people using food stamps but having the latest iPhone and driving relatively expensive luxury vehicles.

      Credit is still easy in the country so iPhone 8 will sell like gangbusters if it's a decent product. There are many prudent people still using iPhone 6 who skipped iPhone 7 (not different enough from iPhone 6) and will upgrade to iPhone 8.

    7. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Movie receipts are way up. It's just most thickets are being sold in other countries now, like China. Enjoy your ride down from the top of the pile. .

  4. Re:Thank you leftists by halivar · · Score: 1, Insightful

    These supply shortfalls are related to increased labor and environmental regulation by leftists.

    This is China. What labor and environmental regulations are you babbling about?

  5. Welcome to the Post-Trump apocalypse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Once in 1000 year" hurricanes every other week, North Korea popping off H bombs, and now iPhone shortages. Oh the humanity

  6. Re: As a typical Apple user I... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You sound bitter, cupcake.

    - Creimer

  7. Yoko Kubota, Tripp Mickle, and Takashi Mochizuki by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How are these people not yet deported?

  8. Re:Thank you leftists by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1, Troll

    But they're literally a communist state, of course they're leftist. Politics in its entirety can be explained by a simple left/right dichotomy -- right? It's like you don't even read 99% of facebook and/or youtube comments.

    (But what does that mean for Russia, AC's other punching bag? They used to be communist aka super-mega-cereal-lefty, but now they're not. Are they now on the right? I'm so confused)

    Trivia: which president created the EPA, and which party was he from? Hint: his last name ends in 'ixon'.

  9. iPhone 8 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it's actually announced and released for sale, it will be a year early. They are also rumored to be releasing an update iPhone 7s. So there will be plenty of phones. Apple will continue to take over 90% of all mobile equipment profits.

    Oh unless you're someone who has to have the latest right away - then you might be sad. You could always get a new Samsung if you want to take that risk. But then you'd have to use Android and have a craptastic experience.

    1. Re:iPhone 8 by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      When I am looking for an electronic pocket gadget to buy, I always look to see which is the most profitable supplier, because that way I can pay the highest price.

  10. Wrong by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Movie receipts are down because Hollowood continues to dig itself deeper in the same hole of crap it started digging years ago.

    The economy by most other indicators is ticking up. Yes savings rate is down a bit at the moment but consumer confidence is still pretty high.

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    1. Re:Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Movie receipts are way up. It's just most thickets are being sold in other countries now, like China. Enjoy your ride down from the top of the pile.

    2. Re:Wrong by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Movie receipts are down because Hollowood continues to dig itself deeper in the same hole of crap it started digging years ago.

      Box office receipts are only down in the US. Movies have been doing quite well internationally. Hollywood has discovered that there is more than the domestic market, and if you look at a few of the movies, you'll find Chinese production companies at least partnering in the movies. Why? China is a huge market, and they WANT US movies. There is a really strong demand for foreign movies in China, and I'm sure the Chinese production companies are there to get easy and fast approval into China.

      Anyhow, the new iPhones will be expensive purposely to curb demand - supposedly Samsung is having production problems with the OLED screens - remember, Samsung basically has to produce double the number of OLED screens as they normally do. Apple may be late to the party, but even years after OLED hits the market, the #1 top producer cannot make them in Apple iPhone quantities (it's one thing to produce 10M, 20M, 50M screens, but now with the iPhone, you're going to have to produce 100M+ - 50M for all your phones, and Apple will probably buy another 50M for an iPhone). It's entirely possible the production capacity simply isn't there. Apple simply waited until Samsung is making enough phones with OLED that they could order OLED screens in sufficient quantities (50-75M units).

  11. Re:Thank you leftists by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 0

    Trivia: which president created the EPA, and which party was he from? Hint: his last name ends in 'ixon'.

    Thomas Dixon? He was an author, not a president.

  12. Re: As a typical Apple user I... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You sound like an idiot. But hey; keep copy and pasting that line if it makes you feel good.

  13. The horror!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How will the collective self worth of the isheep deal with this tragedy? What can we do to help these poor, poor people.

  14. Call the whaaaaaaaaambulance by enjar · · Score: 1

    When I was a kid, I had to wait 4-6 weeks for our Little Orphan Annie decoder rings, AND WE LIKED IT THAT WAY. Drink your Ovaltine, er, Koolaid, kids!

  15. Recession by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I predict that this year the demand for shiny new electronic gadgets will be less, simply because the economy (real economy, not the Fed-reported propaganda) is bad.

    Demand may be less but I don't think it's for the reasons your stating. During the great recession, iPhone sales were booming. I'm not an Apple fan by any measure, but they do a pretty good job of getting people to spend money they don't have.

  16. Classic FUD by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    If this isn't a textbook example of spreading FUD, I don't know what is!

    Thanks, Samsung!

    Sure hope the BATTERIES in the Galaxy Note 8 DON'T EXPLODE!!!!\

    Back atcha!

  17. Bonus for new hires! by boudie2 · · Score: 2

    Do they get to keep the bonus if the new hire jumps out a window?

    1. Re:Bonus for new hires! by rkordmaa · · Score: 1

      No worries, the windows have bars to prevent that.

  18. Re:Thank you leftists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    da fuq r u smokin i wan sum.

  19. Re:There goes my holiday boner. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    where do you stick it now that they removed the headphone jack?

  20. The world is bigger than just the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I predict that this year the demand for shiny new electronic gadgets will be less, simply because the economy (real economy, not the Fed-reported propaganda) is bad. People have no money and they're up to their eyeballs in debt (at record levels now).

    Only in the US.

    The rest of the world is doing just fine, at least as fine as last year, especially China which has GDP growth similar to previous years. The iPhone sales would be just fine, as long as Apple can make them fast enough.