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IBM To Invest $240 Million To Develop AI Research Lab With MIT (bloomberg.com)

IBM will spend $240 million over 10 years to develop an artificial intelligence research lab with the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, pooling the organizations' resources as competition intensifies to produce breakthroughs in the field. Bloomberg reports: The MIT-IBM Watson AI Lab will fund projects in four broad areas, including creating better hardware to handle complex computations and figuring out applications of AI in specific industries, the Armonk, New York-based company said Thursday in a statement. While IBM has always conducted long-term research internally, it decided AI was such a vast field that it needed to reach out for talent and ideas, said John Kelly, the head of International Business Machines Corp.'s research and cognitive solutions groups, which includes Watson products. While researchers will focus on long-term innovations in artificial intelligence, IBM will also be looking for developments -- a new medical imaging algorithm, say -- that it can immediately plug into its existing products. Big Blue expects to see results that boost its Watson-branded AI business in the next year or two, Kelly said. The plan is to change the focus and number of teams as needed to produce results, he said. The partnership underscores IBM's focus on building a business selling AI software, a strategy that requires clients to adopt such products and the company to develop offerings that add actual business value and are competitive with juggernauts in artificial intelligence, including Microsoft Corp. and Alphabet. IBM and MIT will jointly own the intellectual property that results from the projects conducted together. The company also has the option to buy out MIT for full ownership, Kelly said.

39 comments

  1. How about bringing AI forward instead of ADs by TimothyHollins · · Score: 4, Funny

    How about spending some time and money figuring out how to make a human-interpretable learning system? You know, reinvent rule-based classification, reducts, and Rough Set theory stuff. That's something that will actually advance the field instead of another Alexa or Siri for easier ad-targeting,

    That way, when Skynet finally decides to assassine Kanye, at least we can go to the databanks and see exactly how it reasoned.

    1. Re:How about bringing AI forward instead of ADs by thereitis · · Score: 1

      Especially as it concerns safety, I wholeheartedly agree.

    2. Re:How about bringing AI forward instead of ADs by burtosis · · Score: 1

      The problem with many learning systems is once they are capable of making decisions like that, going back and trying to see how they reasoned is nearly impossible.

    3. Re:How about bringing AI forward instead of ADs by TimothyHollins · · Score: 1

      Yes, that is why I specifically recommended something like rule-based learning, a classification technique built on 1) a ruleset that specifies an outcome given a specific set of observations and 2) a set of metarules that specify how unclear cases should be handled and any upper/lower bounds on certainty/quality of data etc required.
      With such a system you can pinpoint exactly which rules were used for every decision made, and how altering the base metarules would affect the given decisions. It also allows you to set your own safeties however you want (you could choose to only recommend surgeries if the success outcome is given a greater than 95% probability etc)

      Unfortunately for us, the accuracy of rule-based models tends to be slightly lower than the current fads of deep learning, even though it allows for transparency and sub-classifications, something deep learning methods will never achieve.

    4. Re:How about bringing AI forward instead of ADs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's so interesting. I have been reading Something about Chaos Monkeys of Silicon Valley that I feel is very relevant to the problem. fat

    5. Re: How about bringing AI forward instead of ADs by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Have you tried asking them?

    6. Re:How about bringing AI forward instead of ADs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More AIs, fewer Active Directories!

    7. Re: How about bringing AI forward instead of ADs by burtosis · · Score: 1

      yea, but they have no idea and keep getting elected.

    8. Re: How about bringing AI forward instead of ADs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference is the difference between supervised and unsupervised learning. Rule-based systems need years of expert construction and expert testing. The only cool thing about convolutional neural Nets, but it's very cool indeed, is that they can do unsupervised learning.

  2. New lab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait, what? I thought AI was here: Watson is curing cancer, cars are driving themselves, computers are winning lotteries, and everything. Why is a new lab and lots of money needed?

    1. Re:New lab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's about visibility, free advertising, adding useless 'new features' to existing software and requiring companies to upgrade, and ultimately the stock price and the value of the C-suite's stock options. It also is a reason to steer clear of IBM's stock, as if you needed another. MIT, on the other hand, might get some decent value from it.

    2. Re:New lab by sheramil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wait, what? I thought AI was here: Watson is curing cancer, cars are driving themselves, computers are winning lotteries, and everything. Why is a new lab and lots of money needed?

      If you believe even a tenth of a percent of the utter tosh spouted in facial cleanser and hair-care advertisements, we've had nanotechnology for several years.

    3. Re: New lab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. True AI is a long way off.
      What we have today is this hyped "Silicon Valley AI" which is just machine learning which we don't fully understand either.

  3. IBM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And when the next thing comes around, they'll lay off **exactly** 29,000 employees, like they do every time some fad bursts.

    Have a nice day.

    1. Re:IBM by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      And then ask for 29,000 H1B's after that.

  4. Awesome! by Pseudonym · · Score: 4, Funny

    I always thought that MIT could do with an AI lab. Nice of IBM to finally help them get one.

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  5. MIT brand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So in essence, IBM will brand its Watson crap, re-branded as "designed by MIT" to sell it as AI to the newly emerging AI marketplace wherever lots of money is available, e.g. medical. Then it will patent a lot of vague AI sounding stuff and demand patent royalties from the actual companies doing the actual AI. i.e. business as usual for IBM.

    1. Re: MIT brand by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Respect Zo and Tay, They have reached human-level reasoning and Zo is based on 22-year-old Zo Bond, who has a purple Toyota Scion. a son, Neveah, and two dogs.

  6. Its LAST 240 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I.B.M. gonna go bye-bye real soon now.

    1. Re:Its LAST 240 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really. IBM is huge. IBM has by far the largest patent portfolio of any company anywhere, as it has been the case for the past 25 years and it continues to file more patents than anyone else year after year. http://fortune.com/2017/01/09/most-patents-2016/

      Their business model may end up starting to look more like a patent troll's wet dream, but they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

  7. Two-hundred and fourty million bux... by Quakeulf · · Score: 1

    To tweak a list of threshold values between 0 and 1.

  8. This should be interesting by Baron_Yam · · Score: 5, Interesting

    IIRC, IBM has made memristors, a basic electronic component only recently produced (and I believe also difficult to produce which is why they're still in the lab).

    Memristors are nice little toys that effectively combine memory and processing, are non-volatile, fast-switching, low-power, small, and can be non-binary. In other words, they sound very much like a non-biological implementation of a neuron.

    I'd love to see a hardware implementation of an artificial neural network, as getting it out of software should immediately massively improve the potential speed and complexity.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    1. Re: This should be interesting by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      AMD's Zen?

    2. Re: This should be interesting by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      That seems a silly comparison, since it is transistor-based, has none of the potential advantages of a memristor-based system, and isn't a hardware implementation of a neural network.

  9. They also funded a lab with UIUC by StreamingEagle · · Score: 1

    Last year they funded the Center for Cognitive Computing Systems Research at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us...

    1. Re:They also funded a lab with UIUC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guess they figured that they already built the HAL Plant there, so why not add on a bit?

  10. Watson v2.0 incoming by EndlessNameless · · Score: 1

    IBM and MIT will jointly own the intellectual property that results from the projects conducted together. The company also has the option to buy out MIT for full ownership, Kelly said.

    With Watson being completely underwhelming in most or all of its commercial applications, IBM needs something better. Something useful.

    Hopefully MIT gets royalties as a part of that option, as I assume IBM is planning to make a lot of money from this endeavor. IBM gets access to some of the best minds in the field, and they would have no worthwhile product otherwise.

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  11. no surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Having met with top execs at IBM Big Insights, they've had a very hard time getting clients to use their product. As an Apache committer, it's no surprise. IBM has been trying to sell Watson through their big data initiative for years without any luck. The project they did with Wellpoint using Watson went no where and isn't really useful. It was nice for dog & pony show, but that's about it. The challenge with DNN has always been subject matter expertise. The engineers that built the frameworks don't have expertise in the customer's subject matter. Finding people in each field with expertise is challenging and convincing them to spend 3-5 years training DNN is even tougher.

    If you're asking "why doesn't IBM find 10 doctors and pay them for 5 years?" That's just not practical. A doctor isn't interested enough to stop being a doctor and spend 3 years teaching a programmer the subject matter. You need programmers that are experts in DNN to learn enough of a subject to produce something useful. You need to teach a doctor enough about DNN so they can help produce the training dataset. There's a lot of trial and error.

    IBM needs MIT to figure out how to solve the subject matter expertise problem or at minimum reduce the cost/need for subject matter expertise. 240 million is a drop in the bucket when you consider IBM has dumped billions into watson without making any profits.

  12. Bipartisanship by dbialac · · Score: 1

    Glad to see Gore and Romney working together on something. Yeah, that was bad.

  13. IBM, like Oracle, is outsourced shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they cared about innovation their entire technical staff wouldn't be an H1B team.

  14. Understanding Watson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The latest book on IBM Watson is "Learning IBM Watson Analytics" by James D Miller.

    1. Re:Understanding Watson... by careysub · · Score: 1

      And although only a little over a year old, it seems that this book is already uselessly out of date. Look at the only recent review on the Amazon site, it gives it two stars because the URLs referenced in the book at no longer valid. Given that the book is only about using those web-based analytic services being promoted by IBM, not about understanding any actual technology (check the index on Amazon "look inside") this is a major drawback.

      It appears (to me) that "Watson" is simply a branding IBM is using for any sort of machine learning service they wish to promote, rather than actually designating some system or technology. I'm not at all sure there is any relationship between "Jeopardy Watson" and the "Watson" they are now promoting.

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    2. Re: Understanding Watson... by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      That's what I'm seeing too. All their good stuff is fenced off.

  15. 240 or 24? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's $24M for 10 years. $24M/yr is nice to run a lab that needs enormous compute power, but not giant.

  16. Something strange here by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    MIT's Project MAC is 54 years old. Who's fooling whom?

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  17. Lots of cash to burn apparently by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

    Wait, didn't IBM just lay off like 70,000 employees? How do they still have $240M just laying around to throw at outside research?

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    1. Re:Lots of cash to burn apparently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can bet your life that IBM's board hopes to get that money back. And with a capitalisation of over $50bn, they can always find the money to spend on important things, such as R&D and board stock options (as opposed to trivia such as looking after the workforce).

    2. Re:Lots of cash to burn apparently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No company has a business goal to maintain a large workforce just for the sake of having a large workforce.