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The Washington Post Pans Apple-Sponsored School Reform TV Special (washingtonpost.com)

Long-time Slashdot reader theodp writes: On Friday night, the Big Four Networks simultaneously aired EIF Presents: XQ Super School Live [YouTube], a commercial-free, one-hour TV special that championed Laurene Powell Jobs' mission to rethink the American high school. The closing credits listed Jobs as an Executive Producer, and noted that the chock-full-of-celebrities special was sponsored in part by her Emerson Collective and Apple.

"Surely Samuel L. Jackson, Tom Hanks, Mahershala Ali, Justin Timberlake, Cate Blanchett and a bevy of other celebrities have nothing but laudable intentions by appearing on Friday night's live televised high school reform spectacular on four -- count them, four -- major networks (NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox)," writes the Washington Post's Valerie Strauss. "But when an hour of prime time on four networks is purchased, it's fair to ask whether that is a public service or propaganda."

The Post points out gently that "not everyone believes" in the need to "transform" high schools, while theodp notes "viewers were pitched XQ Super School Board Program kits, which XQ's website explains are designed to prepare individuals for a school board candidacy."

If this seems suspiciously political -- or at least a way to ensure schools are friendly to Laurene Powell Jobs' specific proposals -- the nonprofit's web site adds reassuringly that "XQ won't be endorsing or supporting particular candidates; we'll be supporting all candidates who stand with us in a shared commitment to rethink high school, so all young people can be educated as they deserve."

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  1. Times have changed by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This was on the four major broadcast networks (sorry, CW) - yet how many of us had no idea it was happening? This Slashdot submission was the first I'd heard of it, in any case...

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    1. Re:Times have changed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Same here.

      That said, who still listens to the WaPo? Hearing them complain about something being too political or propaganda made my irony meter explode.

    2. Re:Times have changed by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      I'm sure that's true... but, back in the "old days" when network TV still ruled the roost, (and most other people, I suspect)I would almost certainly have been aware of this sort of "special" even if I had no interest in watching it.

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    3. Re: Times have changed by sound+vision · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If the people didn't give a fuck about what celebrities thought, they wouldn't have put one in the white House.

    4. Re:Times have changed by lys1123 · · Score: 2

      This was on the four major broadcast networks (sorry, CW) - yet how many of us had no idea it was happening? This Slashdot submission was the first I'd heard of it, in any case...

      Yes, but one thing you have to think about is target demographics. The people who participate in running for school board (or even voting for school board members for that matter) tend to be older and more likely to still be watching prime time network TV than your average Slashdot reader.

    5. Re: Times have changed by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the people didn't give a fuck about what celebrities thought, they wouldn't have put one in the white House.

      You weren't paying attention. The vast majority of high-profile celebrities (from the music, TV/Film, fashion, sports, and wider entertainment spectrum) breathlessly instructed you to vote for their chosen celebrity (Hillary Clinton), and poured the huge resources of their visibility, their shows, their concerts, and their social media machinery into making sure that their designated queen get the power to which she felt so entitled. And despite that enormously lopsided media environment, their celebrity-ness utterly failed to get her into office. It also didn't prevent the Democrats from having lost nearly a thousand legislative seats, most of the governorships, both houses of congress, and millions of two-time Obama voters who turned their backs on all of that celebrity finger-wagging and condescending lecturing and mockery, and decided that Clinton was exactly the corrupt, lying incompetent that she has demonstrated herself to be. Almost the entire celebrity industrial complex was denied the results they demanded.

      You couldn't have it more backwards.

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    6. Re: Times have changed by sound+vision · · Score: 2

      Oh, I was paying attention. If some random Republican started saying the things Trump did, that random Republican would not have been elected. Star power and cult-of-personality were huge factors. The entire mythology of his lIfe and similar leeches on society. He didn't need endorsements because he has all that himself. But if you want to gauge how effective the "celebrity-industrial complex" (lol) was in the election, more people actually did pull the lever for Hilary. In case you weren't paying attention.

  2. Jeff Bezos pans apple!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wonder how Jeff Bezos owning the Washington Post and Apple competitor Amazon figured in on the WP panning an Apple sponsored event.

  3. Early education more important by willy_me · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Improvements to high school are fine - but they are not of that much importance. If America is ever going to achieve racial equality, quality early childhood education is required for all. When a child is behind their piers by a year or two it becomes almost impossible to catch up.

    Children of parents that are financially secure are often enrolled in programs where they are taught to read, are exposed to more language, and perform activities designed to stimulate intellect. So while poor parents can find no time to spend with their children, wealthy parents are giving their kids a head start. It has been shown that this head start stays with them all the way to adulthood. Social mobility is reduced - the poor stay poor and the rich stay rich, one generation after the other.

    Racial inequality will exist so long as racial stereotypes can be statistically validated. Without social mobility, historically poor racial groups with remain poor and the stereotypes will continue. It is a never ending circle - a horrible circle which human nature will ensure persists. Those that think we can change human nature are horribly naive. But we do have control of social mobility in the form of early childhood education.

    Providing more early education will lead to breaking the circle which will invalidate the stereotypes and finally end all of this hatred. Education is the only thing we have control of so we should start there.

    1. Re:Early education more important by blindseer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Racial inequality will exist so long as racial stereotypes can be statistically validated.

      I'm not sure what you mean. Is this a bad thing that we can correlate things like intelligence to genetics? Racial inequality exists because we define a person as a race and not a person. If people want to see racial inequality disappear then, IMHO at least, we should stop asking for race on applications to university and jobs.

      Providing more early education will lead to breaking the circle which will invalidate the stereotypes and finally end all of this hatred. Education is the only thing we have control of so we should start there.

      Education to stop the hatred would be a great idea. Such as stop teaching children in school that the "white man" spread disease among the First Nations with blankets tainted with disease. The germ theory wasn't established then. European colonists certainly did a lot of horrible things. What they also did was end the practice in India of throwing the surviving wife onto the funeral fire of her dead husband. White men didn't "invent" slavery, they ended it.

      It's the white male that is continually shit upon in the USA. We'll have Black History Month. We'll see Cinco de Mayo celebrated in the USA. There's quite a list of months for celebrating "diversity". Where's my month?
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      I say ending the hatred is a very good idea. As a white male living today I have never owned slaves. As someone with Germanic ancestry it's quite likely my ancestors were slaves. The word "slave" comes from "slav", as in the people were often taken as slaves by the Moors. Don't teach children that only one skin color were slaves and that only one skin color owned them. Be honest to your children. Everyone on Earth today has slavery in their history. The debts on that was wiped clean many times over with war, healing, and time. We need to remember it happened as a warning to not do it again.

      I find it odd about the tearing down of Civil War monuments. These people don't want to forget the Civil War. If they did then the race based politics starts to disappear. What is really happening is the Democrats wanting to rewrite history by taking down the statues of prominent Democrat leaders. They want people to forget the rascist past of the Democrat Party.

      Do people really want that clean break from the horrors of slavery? Then we need to break free from the Democrat Party. We can start by getting the Democrats out of our schools.

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    2. Re:Early education more important by gallondr00nk · · Score: 2, Funny

      When a child is behind their piers by a year or two it becomes almost impossible to catch up.

      They end up completely out at sea.

    3. Re:Early education more important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You really need to pay attention.

      A number of years ago our federal government got sold a new method of teaching reading to kids - sight words. This method of teaching was designed to bridge the gap between "poor" kids and "rich" kids ability to read. It does this by eliminating the focus on phonics (sounding words out, and how sounds relate to character combinations) and instead having the kids completely memorize small words. If you show your kid the word "brain" and they say "banana", this is what's going on. When they look at words, they either know them or they don't, they don't try to sound them out, they are taught to simply take a guess and everyone around them will help correct them if necessary and maybe they will get it next time. They are being evaluated by how many out of say 200 words they get memorized through the end of the school year.

      Our education system was able to ensure that poor kids could read at a level much more closer to rich kids by effectively not teaching kids how to read anymore. Instead of trying to bring some kids up, they brought them all way down. We are ending up with a bunch of stories like http://www.wnd.com/2014/12/schools-dont-teach-kids-to-read/ that are getting buried in the news.

      Be careful what you wish for.

      As a parent of a 7 year old having to teach my kid to read myself, I'm pretty damn sure Grey's Law applies here, rather than Hanlon's Razor. At the moment, the kids that are getting ahead are the ones that a) are going to private schools early on (that voucher nonsense? last year when I figured this out, I began to actually start thinking they might have some merit...), b) have parents who actually identify that this is going on, and c) have parents who have the capabilities to do something about it. All the other kids are absolutely being left behind. This failure of our system of education is absolutely unprecedented, and it's all the more horrifying when you understand that the basis of further learning is dependent completely on competent reading skills.

      Thank you federal government, for doing your best to make sure that when we fail, we all fail together.

    4. Re:Early education more important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not sure what you mean. Is this a bad thing that we can correlate things like intelligence to genetics?

      Can you? Which genes? What do they have with the genes that are contributing to the factors that identify as race?

      Racial inequality exists because we define a person as a race and not a person.

      Nope. Racial inequality exists because inequality exists in a manner that correlates with race.

      If people want to see racial inequality disappear then, IMHO at least, we should stop asking for race on applications to university and jobs.

      Well, that's stupid, because just because you can't see something since you closed your eyes (ironic name there), doesn't mean it ceases to exist.

      Education to stop the hatred would be a great idea.

      Good idea. Why don't you go through the collection of text books and find some examples of white supremacy that was being taught?

      Why is it your primary example is such a bad one?

      Such as stop teaching children in school that the "white man" spread disease among the First Nations with blankets tainted with disease.

      Who was it then? They wrote letters, it's documented.

      The germ theory wasn't established then.

      And yet people had been aware for CENTURIES that disease could be spread by materials associated with the infected. You can find it documented in Arabian and Greek and Chinese medical texts.

      European colonists certainly did a lot of horrible things.

      Yes, and you want to hide it. Deny it. Cover it with a thin veneer of lies.

      What they also did was end the practice in India of throwing the surviving wife onto the funeral fire of her dead husband.

      Along with numerous massacres as part of their imperialism. But you, you want to champion and white knight your heroes, your white, British, heroes. A practice, Sati, that was far far far rarer than the deaths of orphans in the streets, of the elderly, from neglect and disease, or from injuries resulting in from the abusive means that the British employed in their economic exploitation systems.

      White men didn't "invent" slavery, they ended it.

      After a few centuries of systematically taking millions of people into bondage, trying to conquer the world, all in the name of their own sanctimonious bullshit.

      Gosh, I guess we'll have to completely fail to mention that, because it hurts your feelings.

      It's the white male that is continually shit upon in the USA.

      Is that why Congress is around 80 Percent White and Male? Why judges across the country are so frequently white and male? Why governors, state legislators, mayors, and CEOs are so frequently white and male?

      We'll have Black History Month.

      Yes, and do you know its origins? Because they noticed the copious absence of any mention of their history in the works of the time.

      We'll see Cinco de Mayo celebrated in the USA.

      The horrors of people celebrating

    5. Re: Early education more important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When you consider that these laws and benchmarks are written by people who have gone through private schools, have children or grandchildren in those same private schools, one has to wonder whether stories like this are a matter of politicians trying to help everyone, or help set their own above and apart from the rest... planting the roots of the caste system in America.

    6. Re:Early education more important by ortholattice · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I find it odd about the tearing down of Civil War monuments. These people don't want to forget the Civil War. If they did then the race based politics starts to disappear. What is really happening is the Democrats wanting to rewrite history by taking down the statues of prominent Democrat leaders. They want people to forget the rascist past of the Democrat Party.

      The Civil War monuments were mostly erected a half-century or more after the Civil War, about the time that Jim Crow laws were enacted in the South. Conclude from that what you wish, but why are they celebrating the traitorous, ugly, losing side in the Civil War and not the winning side? After almost every other war, it is the winning side that is honored.

      The argument that taking them down would erase history is absurd. Why are there no monuments in the South celebrating the Union side? That is the history we should be remembering. I see the Confederate monuments as symbols of the slavery they wish they could still have. I've wondered that since I was a kid raised in North Carolina (and no one had a good answer), long before the current media focus on them. I can see how blacks could find these monuments unsettling.

      Would you support replacing the Confederate monuments with ones that celebrate the winning side and the end of slavery? If not, why not?

    7. Re:Early education more important by larryjoe · · Score: 2

      Racial inequality exists because we define a person as a race and not a person. If people want to see racial inequality disappear then, IMHO at least, we should stop asking for race on applications to university and jobs.

      If the problem's existence is based on human perception, then ignoring the problem may indeed make it go away. However, if there are endemic economic causes, then ignoring the problem or ceasing to ask questions about it simply makes diagnoses disappear, but the actual problems will be perpetuated.

      Such as stop teaching children in school that the "white man" spread disease among the First Nations with blankets tainted with disease. The germ theory wasn't established then.

      This is a diversionary strawman. I doubt that the colonial Europeans in North America were so technologically advanced to intentionally wage biological warfare. However, their ignorance doesn't eliminate culpability or the effects of the unintentional germ warfare.

      White men didn't "invent" slavery, they ended it.

      I'm not sure who held the first patent on slavery, but it doesn't really matter. In terms of slavery in the Western Hemisphere, white people nurtured slavery into a massive economic and social system. Of course, white people also ended slavery, because ending slavery through slave revolts is extremely rare.

    8. Re: Early education more important by OhPlz · · Score: 2

      The party that sunk Bernie so they could run their choice of candidate, and not the choice of those voting in the primary? It may be a party of democrats, but it's not a democratic party.

    9. Re:Early education more important by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2

      I don't think it was on purpose- but there's a reason there was a malaria epidemic in the Oregon territory in 1830, at a time when very few of the natives had ever visited the tropics.

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    10. Re:Early education more important by larryjoe · · Score: 2

      Uh, not really. White people were the customers. Islamics are the ones who made the money off the slave trade- and still are in sub-Sahara Africa.

      This is mostly incorrect. Africans, including mostly non-Muslim Africans, captures slaves who were then sold to European slave traders. The traders transported the slaves to the Western Hemisphere and sold them to the eventual slave owners. The vast majority of the money made off the slave trade and slave economy went into white hands.

    11. Re:Early education more important by Xylantiel · · Score: 2

      You appear to have a terribly warped view of the role of sight words in reading and more generally of language and reading development. Just because kids of a certain level should have certain sight words does not mean that they never use phonetics. It is actually a completely natural part of reading development to guess at words sometimes instead of sounding them out. Sight words are simply part of how reading works. If you think adults read by sounding out every word you are mistaken. Adults are simply more experienced at recognizing which words are sight words that they know.

      If your child is really being taught as you claim, which I find unlikely but possible, you should complain about the professional development of your local teachers, not about the national standards, because they are doing it totally wrong. I have found that sometimes private schools are even worse about this kind of thing because they are even more likely to cater to parents like you who do not know what you are talking about.

      And on your last point, a lot of people complain about modern standards when in reality the problem was always there, it's just now the standards are so precise and well-validated that there is no way around acknowledging it. If the kid's weren't learning sight words before, they weren't learning how to read because that is how reading works. And of course kids with parents who "really care" are going to do better. That's basically a tautology. If all other kids are failing then the school system is failing and *always has been*.

    12. Re:Early education more important by pnutjam · · Score: 2

      Schools teach both and whichever they start with is largely irrelevant.
      I have 6 kids, 4 have learned how to read, the fifth is in kindergarten and on is only 2. They all learned site words first and probably read way better then you do. Honor roll, advanced classes, etc...
      Site words work, phonics works, kids all learn different and the mark of a great school / teacher is adaptability. We can't always have great, so parents have to step up and find out what works for their kids.

      You probably learned simple math through memorization, it works just as well for simple common words.
      I know I never bothered to memorize the simple math, because I was a lazy kid and thought I already knew how to do math, but I saw how much it benefited the kids around me. Now, I've long since memorized them, but it really hurt me as a kid to have to do 7*6 by doing 7*5 and counting up seven. Memorizing would have been better.
      Like this, most "sight" words are difficult to sound out and common enough they should be quickly recognized.

  4. Yes High Schools Need Transformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You got several levels of schooling in this country. The elite go to prep schools and other private routes and go to elite colleges and then to elite jobs where they get an education. The elite take care of themselves just fine.

    Then you got public school which has to take care of the worst (special ed, and pls spare me the crap) to the best, some who might likely get identified early and sped along. Many not. And whether they are at 25% or 90%, many have to attend the same classes.

    And public school has little tolerance for trade jobs, the overriding message is "Go to College" nevermind that many people work well with their hands, don't have the funds for college, and that college doesn't automatically mean better pay in the long haul.

    We can also seperate this between inner city schools, most are underfunded, and suburban schools -- where the teachers often make more than the surrounding median population but will cry how poor they are like inner city teachers while their pay/benefits/pensions put crushing taxes on their districts in some states.

    Public schools are generally a one-size-fits-all system when it doesn't and that is the overriding problem. Children can certainly benefit some customization something like a tablet running Khan Academy or Duoling-like programs can bring. But then again, tablets in their current form with browsing and other manner of garbage are unsuitable. Before someone mentions cost, prepaid smartphones are down to $30 at Walmart... they certainly can play Netflix and such. Not much more is needed for a tablet. A classroom of kids can be outfitted for less than a single iPad.

    What states really need to do is hire people at a state and national level to cooperate on these programs and on public-copyright textbooks and save on costs over time by cooperation and having development costs spread out over thousands of school districts rather than rely on vendors.

  5. Re:Such a confusing article! by sheramil · · Score: 2

    First it says that the need for high school "redesign" is a faulty narrative, then it says that the school system "needs serious reform". Which is it?

    Redesign is when you make elaborate plans to change it so people think you're going to do something. Reform is when you actually do it.

  6. no abstract on their web site? by davecotter · · Score: 2

    i spent ten minutes browsing their web site and found very little about WHAT they're really proposing. i want a page that directly answers the questions: What needs to change? How can we fix it? What is our Plan? Do they investigate individual learning styles? seems not: they still want standardized testing School for me was like that old cartoon: the students are: a monkey, a bird, a giraffe, a fish. The standardized test is "get the thing at the top of this tree". I'm the fish. They didn't teach to my strengths. Yeah, school, what i remember of it, was mostly "memorize, regurgitate, and then forget". It was great at teaching THAT modality, but horrible at teaching *understanding of a subject*.

  7. Errrr... by jamlam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "But when an hour of prime time on four networks is purchased, it's fair to ask whether that is a public service or propaganda." So what is it fair to ask when someone buys a whole newspaper?

  8. Translation service by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "We'll be supporting all candidates who stand with us"

    Translation: "We'll be supporting all candidates who will buy our stuff."

  9. Re:"as they deserve" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Of course the rich will always be able to get the best education available. They can pay for it. Why is that a problem? Them getting the best education has nothing to do with everyone else being able to get a good education.
    The real question should be how do we improve education for children whose environment teaches them education is unimportant? That's the real problem. Children in homes where education is valued will almost always get a good education. Children in homes where education is not values, where they are not valued, have an uphill climb and will almost never succeed, at least not through education.
    And the U.S. as a society need to decide what education is for. Is it for job training? Is it to produce well rounded citizens? Is it to benefit society? Who decides what "benefits society" means?

  10. war of the corporate propagandists by doctorvo · · Score: 2

    The Post points out gently that "not everyone believes" in the need to "transform" high schools

    So we have one Democratic billionaire corporate master (Bezos) criticizing another Democratic billionaire corporate master (Jobs) over how to spend tax dollars on education. This is the vision Democrats have for America: propaganda, corporatism, and government by elites and billionaires.

    What these pricks are united in is in denying Americans the right to make their own choices for how their kids are educated with the tax dollars their parents have spent.

  11. Proper reading is based on IMAGE, not sound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    'sounding out' is NEVER a reading method, but a method for people who speak a language far better than they (currently) read it to learn new words. This means young children- but actual PROPER reading must be taught in a way that bypasses the verbal part of our brain.

    You should read by SEEING each word, in the same way you see a car or cat. If you read by sounding out inside your head, you are effectively reading 'disabled'.

    The confusion comes from the mechanism of understanding NEW words- and dim witted parents, who probably cannot read correctly themselves- think reading by sounding out inside one's head is how it is supposed to be done.

    For adults, there is a test. Go find a site that jumbles up the letters in each world of a paragraph according to a special rule. If you can still read that paragraph fairly easy, you read correctly. But adults who 'sound out' have to solve each jumbled word one-by-one as 'anagrams' - and thus essentially find the paragraph unreadable.

    The key to learning to read PROPERLY is to have the child read as much as possible with a rapidly expanding vocab- so as many words as possible are learnt 'on sight'. Having the young child use the internet is the very best way- cos the internet demands reading skills.

    On the other hand, having the young child read very little- and that having limited vocab content- combined with hitting the child with constant 'sounding out' - means the child will never learn to read properly, and will continue to read by 'sounding out' as an adult.