Equifax Made Salary, Work History Available To Anyone With Your SSN and DOB (krebsonsecurity.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from KrebsOnSecurity: In May, KrebsOnSecurity broke a story about lax security at a payroll division of big-three credit bureau Equifax that let identity thieves access personal and financial data on an unknown number of Americans. Incredibly, this same division makes it simple to access detailed salary and employment history on a large portion of Americans using little more than someone's Social Security number and date of birth -- both data elements that were stolen in the recent breach at Equifax. At issue is a service provided by Equifax's TALX division called The Work Number. The service is designed to provide automated employment and income verification for prospective employers, and tens of thousands of companies report employee salary data to it. The Work Number also allows anyone whose employer uses the service to provide proof of their income when purchasing a home or applying for a loan.
The homepage for this Equifax service wants to assure visitors that "Your personal information is protected." "With your consent your personal data can be retrieved only by credentialed verifiers," Equifax assures us, referring mainly to banks and other entities that request salary data for purposes of setting credit limits. Sadly, this isn't anywhere near true because most employers who contribute data to The Work Number -- including Fortune 100 firms, government agencies and universities -- rely on horribly weak authentication for access to the information.
The homepage for this Equifax service wants to assure visitors that "Your personal information is protected." "With your consent your personal data can be retrieved only by credentialed verifiers," Equifax assures us, referring mainly to banks and other entities that request salary data for purposes of setting credit limits. Sadly, this isn't anywhere near true because most employers who contribute data to The Work Number -- including Fortune 100 firms, government agencies and universities -- rely on horribly weak authentication for access to the information.
Remember when people mocked the credentials of Equifax's former CIO and other people pushed back because many people in the field didn't have traditional background?
Well, it looks like security was a systemic failure at Equifax, so perhaps it's actually time to suggest that someone with a music degree wasn't qualified for the job?
Let's face it: success is defined as no known security breaches, yet, this could be down to luck rather than skill. Either no-one successfully targeted her prior employers or any breaches never became public.
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"many places"??? FUCK YOU. Who wants to share their salary? So that they can screw you up when you lose a job and have to find another?
What business is it of a potential employer what I was paid by my previous employers? All that does is weaken the applicant's position when it comes time to negotiate a starting salary.
If you are a criminal deciding who to steal from, or who's relatives to kidnap for ransom, wouldn't you like a big list of everybody's salaries?
Time for the corporate death penalty. If "corporations are people", then they can get the death penalty.
Yank their charter. And, if possible, blacklist their CxOs.
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our entire economic system was rigged against the working class. Good thing that would never happen.
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Site designed to help capitalists to abuse workers is abused by non-capitalists. I feel profound indifference.
If you weren't making enough at your previous job to meet your expectations, then why did you stay it at it long enough that it would even be an issue? If you were making good money for what you were doing, and are applying for a similar role, it's fair to mention, when answering a question about your previous salary, that you'd expect to be making about the same amount. If the job entails more responsibilities, then it's fair to instead say you'd expect to be making somewhat more than what you were making before because of that.
It's my experience, however, that most people who are reluctant to share their previous salaries either don't have enough self confidence to believe they are worth as much as what they believe the job they are applying for should reasonably pay (which tells the employer they could probably underpay them anways), or else they have unrealistic ideas about what their skills are actually even worth, which means they wouldn't be satisfied with a reasonable offer anyways so the company is probably better off hiring someone else.
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It's not like their info isn't already compromised. Between Equifax and all the other leaks, particularly the Office of Personal Management fiasco, everyone who gets a government paycheck can easily have their identity stolen. It's a dead certainty that both the Russians and the Chinese can impersonate anyone in the government online almost instantly. It's a security nightmare that has been covered up. Showing how completely screwed all our security is would be a public service. It would force government and business to behave responsibly for a change.
The really ballsy move would be to apply for credit cards for all of Congress and then go to Amazon and buy a sex toy packing, one for their office and one for their home. It would be suicidal at the level of Kim Dotcom or Assange, but it would be funny. You could have a great laugh in Gitmo when the FBI is tasering your eyeballs.
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it obviously lead to confused questions about potential employers getting access to your income info. They only would get that if you let them have it.
In some industries it's a standard practice. I've worked for a firm that does "sensitive" work for a government agency (at least according to them, if you ask me it was not all that sensitive) and short of a finger up the ass they probed every intimate corner of my life. Background check, salary history, parking tickets, credit cards balance, I even had to get an affidavit from the police station stating that I wasn't the subject of an investigation and that I had no history of public disturbance. Technically I could have said no, but that would have been the same as turning down the job.
lucm, indeed.
Sweden makes tax returns public with no apparent ill effect. The US already makes real estate values, ownership, and taxes public, and we should do the same thing for income tax returns.
This only gives a person's work history? ..... Again, why is this a big deal?
The point is that this results in an uneven playing field when negotiating salary. The company knows what you are earning and can make an offer close to that. You do not know what the company is prepared to pay (eg: average of those doing a similar job at the company). The potential employee is thus at a negotiating disadvantage.
Knowing the average industry salary for the job that you are seeking does not give equal negotiating power. If you are currently being paid less than the average you could find yourself in a place that is hard to get out of.
I think you've omitted a scenario that would cover a heck of a lot of people:
an employee outgrows their current position and applies for a job that *should* pay much, much better.
Of course, a prospective employer would love to know the applicant's previous pay so that can offer a minimal pay rise as enticement.
Just imagine the reverse:
within every job ad companies having to include the maximum they're willing to pay for each position.
Typical SlashDot nerd response. "I'm so smart and good at what I do that I don't care about things that might be threatening to the rest of you mere mortals. No skin off my ass".
This story was about a company lying about how well they protect the data they gather - and then giving much of it away to anyone who asks. That should be alarming to anybody - even you self-identified tech gods.
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It's not about lacking confidence in one's abilities and skills. It's about negotiating leverage and wasting time. If I am expecting a big bump from what looks like a promotion to me, giving the potential employer the information about my current salary is just giving them a reason to low-ball me and now I have to go through this whole ordeal of negotiating and convincing them that I deserve more. That is a waste of time.
Not that they ever will, but if the employer simply disclosed the range up front, they could save all of us a lot of time-- a lot more time than if I tell all my potential employers what I make now or have made in the past. This is because I have a minimum I require to even consider a job change lateral, let alone a promotion worth taking the risk and effort of applying. If I know up-front that they can't afford me, then I can just skip them, rather than going through a whole song and dance just to find out they are offering short money. And if I know that the job pays a good deal more than I currently make, then I have the incentive I need to understand what they are looking for, make sure I am a fit, and spend the time necessary to convince them of it.
My current salary is totally irrelevant except as a minimum and me giving it out first is backwards. This is like playing poker against a table of people who hold their cards close, but my cards are face-up on the table. Not good odds. Furthermore, if everyone applying for the job is disclosing salary to the employer, they can use that to help them pick the lower paid of two seemingly equal candidates, rather than taking the time to discern which person might truly be the best fit on other measures.
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