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Tesla Plans Factory In China, Discounts Insurance For Self-Driving US Cars (electrek.co)

Business Insider reports: Tesla has created a customized insurance package, InsureMyTesla, that is cheaper than traditional plans because it factors in the vehicles' Autopilot safety features and maintenance costs. InsureMyTesla has been available in 20 countries, but Tesla just recently partnered with Liberty Mutual to make the plan available in the U.S. InsureMyTesla shows how the insurance industry is bound for disruption as cars get safer with self-driving tech.
Electrek reports: There have been several false alarms over the past few years about Tesla building a factory in China. Earlier this year, Tesla finally confirmed working with the Shanghai government to establish a manufacturing facility in the region and promised an announcement by the end of the year. Now the Wall Street Journal reports that they have come to an agreement with the local authorities on a "wholly owned" factory in the region... China is already the biggest market for electric vehicles, or any vehicles for that matter, and Tesla profited from the demand by tripling its sales to over $1 billion in the country in 2016. Tesla continues to have strong sales in the country this year, where it leads foreign electric car sales with no close second.

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  1. Re:Great, now it'll ALL be made in CHINA! by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Chinese gigafactory is for the Chinese market (the largest EV market in the world). The US gigafactory is for the US and European markets (although the EU will likely get its own gigafactory eventually).

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  2. Collective? by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

    What is not clear is if InsureMyTesla will make rates equal for all drivers always, regardless of the accidents they get into as individuals. They all have the same flaws since they all use the same software, and therefore have the same risk. Therefore all owners should pay on a collective basis.

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    1. Re:Collective? by mspohr · · Score: 5, Informative

      In the US, they are using Liberty Mutual for "Insure my Tesla".
      Out of curiosity, I entered my information and received an insurance quote for my Tesla which is 4 times what I am currently paying.
      So... not a good deal... at all.

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  3. If Tesla trusts its self driving by hsmith · · Score: 2

    Why do you have to pay insurance for their self driving? If Tesla trusted its self driving feature, it would indemnify the owners in the event of an accident. The fact you have to buy coverage hits on the fact it is an alpha release of âoeself driving.â

    1. Re:If Tesla trusts its self driving by Vairon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Legally in the US you are required to either have a minimum set of insurance or put up a large amount of money in a bond with the state in lieu of insurance. The latter may differ from state to state.

      If you are effectively forced to buy insurance anyway, Tesla is partnering with Liberty Mutual to offer discounted (supposedly) insurance that takes the cars self-driving and other safety features into account to hopefully give you a better insurance rate.

    2. Re:If Tesla trusts its self driving by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      When you drive your car, do you control all the external factors?

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    3. Re:If Tesla trusts its self driving by aphelion_rock · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I wonder if they are applying discounts for their own repair work. Tesla cars are notoriously expensive to repair and not all accidents are your own fault and not all other drivers are insured or will own up to a parking lot incident.
      This is what $30k of damage looks like.
      http://gas2.org/2015/01/06/thi...

    4. Re:If Tesla trusts its self driving by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Who is to say a person in a manual car driving way below the speed limit is not going to be safer than whatever automation chooses?

      Statistics. That's what insurance companies use.

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  4. IP Theft by DatbeDank · · Score: 2

    Expect a multitude of EV clones in China appearing that look strangely similar to Teslas.

    The Chinese market may be massive, but that market is only available to Chinese citizens for the long term. It will be known in history as the great IP theft of the west.

    1. Re:IP Theft by Rei · · Score: 2

      Meh, you've never experienced quality until you've driven a Temla. Their new Optopilot system is amazing!

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    2. Re:IP Theft by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm sorry but Temla is crap. The best one out there is the Tesra, no contest.

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  5. Re:Great, now it'll ALL be made in CHINA! by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It doesn't matter. Getting in bed with the Chinese apparently means they now have a significant influence within your company.

    Say, just as a completely hypothetical example, the Chinese government doesn't want a political dissenter living in New York to be able to broadcast videos critical of the Chinese government. Why, just drum up some evidence of harassment, and you get your YouTube and Facebook accounts blocked, just like that. Maybe you even pressure the Chinese security officer who is currently the head of Interpol to file some charges against him. And, naturally, it's completely coincidental that this happened during the once-every-five-years meeting of the Chinese communist party.

    But like I said, that's just a hypothetical example. I'm probably over-thinking this, right?

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  6. Shanghai Factory by fozzy1015 · · Score: 2

    Will ground be broke before or after the Tesla bankruptcy?

  7. Re:Great, now it'll ALL be made in CHINA! by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    lets see.
    Tesla's CObalt is currently coming from Canada, with Idaho starting up as well
    Lithium is coming from Northern Mexico, along with Nevada.
    Nickel does come from Australia,Indonesia, and Japan, so, those will be imported.
    Steel and Aluminum are from all over, including America.
    However, these are the RAW materials. As it stands, IIRC, Model 3 is about 93% American made. Corvette, like its speed, does not touch it.,

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  8. Re:Great, now it'll ALL be made in CHINA! by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    No, the model 3 has RADICALLY brought most of it inhouse. That is why I said, model 3. It is supposed to be in the 90s American made.
    OTOH, MS/MX are around 50-55% American made, which is JUST ENOUGH to pass NAFTA and nothing more.

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