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New York State Bans E-Cigarettes Everywhere Traditional Cigarettes Are Prohibited (usatoday.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from USA Today: New York state is banning electronic cigarettes indoors everywhere that traditional tobacco cigarettes are prohibited, such as restaurants, bars and other workplaces. The ban goes into effect in 30 days, after Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed the Clean Indoor Air Act on Monday. About 70% of the state's cities already ban e-cigarettes, so the statewide policy captures the rest, according to the American Lung Association. Cuomo signed legislation in July that banned e-cigarettes in public and private schools. The industry, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates at $2.5 billion per year, contends that e-cigarettes are safer than traditional tobacco products. Smokers say inhaling the nicotine through a vapor produced by the devices helps them quit traditional cigarettes. But the New York State Health Department warned that vaping carries its own risks because the aerosol emissions can include formaldehyde, cadmium found in batteries, benzene found in gasoline and the industrial solvent toluene.
so are they also banning combustion engines, perfumes, deodorants and the millions of other products and devices that emit aerosol based chemicals.
Your personal space is as safe as ever — it is not even being alleged, that the devices are harmful to anyone other than the actual users. And even to them, they merely "can" be harmful — not "are".
You wouldn't know nannying if it spanked you and left you without supper.
Nor feet away from you in the park either. On the basis of a "can" — a statement as convincing as a Geico commercial...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
As a former smoker, I don't care whatsoever if someone vapes around me, even if they're in my home.
OK, but be sure to wash thoroughly with unscented soap before you go out. No cologne or after-shave either except for rubbing alcohol if you really need it (but be sure it's good and dry before you go out.
While we're here, be sure to wear the standard grey uniform as well. We don't want your flashy colored clothes assaulting our senses.
It's annoying. A smoking friend of mine always vapes inside, because it's supposed to be ok. However, it's really annoying when the whole room is filled with a white fog that smells like bourbon (or vanilla or caramel or apple or whatever smell he chooses).
There's a lot of things that I consider annoying in people, does that mean I get to forbid talking loudly, people scratching themselves in private places, people being obnoxious to the wait staff, children in general, people who are visibly sick but still handle my food, ...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
If you can't light up a tobacco product, you shouldn't be able to "puff away" a fake cigarette. I can't wait until someone legalizes marijuana and some doper wants to "blaze up" in a bar/restaurant, and is told NO.
It's annoying. A smoking friend of mine always vapes inside, because it's supposed to be ok. However, it's really annoying when the whole room is filled with a white fog that smells like bourbon (or vanilla or caramel or apple or whatever smell he chooses).
Not at all different from having people near you bathed in perfume or bad body odors for lack of proper hygiene.
I can get banning of actual cigarettes, for we knew quite well (with quantifiable data) about the negative side effects of second hand smoking.
But e-cigarretes? Vaping? Where is the data?
Are we banning something as a precautionary measure without knowing what the hell we are measuring? Or is it simply because we do not want to offend people?
Unless I am committing a "fallacy of the excluded middle" in the way I'm describing what I am seeing, I have a significant problem with either question.
Or, deity forbid, someone actually cares about the addicted n00bs injuring themselves
No one is asking you for this help.
What other potentially dangerous activities do you want to protect us from? Sky diving? Deep sea diving? Walking across streets? Leaving our homes?
so that an industry can profit?
I really want to ignore this because it's such a transparently bs "evil corp boogeyman" argument - especially when talking about the vape industry. The destruction of the vape industry will just push most vapers to smoking regular cigarettes and just make big tobacco that much wealthier. And honestly, if I buy from a non-profit vape store, then do I have your permission to vape in public?