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Catalonia Declares Independence; Spain Approves Central Takeover Of Region (npr.org)

Readers share a report: Lawmakers in Catalonia have declared independence from Spain in a historic vote that prompted protests and celebration. The government in Madrid, vowing to halt any would-be secession, has authorized the Spanish prime minister to take over direct rule of the previously semi-autonomous region. The vote in the Catalan Parliament comes nearly a month after the region held a referendum on independence, over Spain's objections. The regional president then declared his support for separation from Spain but also called for talks with Madrid, in an ambiguous speech. Spain's central government, promising to crack down harshly if the declaration was real, told the region's leaders to make up their mind: Yes or no? Independence or not? Now it's final: Independence, Catalonia said.

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  1. Re:Support Right to Independence by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why should they need to forgo the protection of the EU -- as a european entity, would their membership be rejected?

    Their membership would almost certainly be rejected. For one thing, they would need approval of all member states. Spain isn't going to give their's. Not just to be vindictive cunts, but also because they wouldn't want to encourage independence movements in other regions like the basque country. Germany, Italy, etc, all have small independence movements in regions. They wouldn't want to help breakaway states by giving the safety net of the EU.

    Catalonia won't get EU membership. Not right away and perhaps not for a long time if ever.

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  2. Re:nasty situation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Every time a governed people declare independence it has been "illegal" by the current government's law. The US revolution was illegal according to English law, the Mexican Revolution was illegal according to Spanish law, etc. The only question is, can they defend and enforce their independence by use of martial force.

  3. Re:Support Right to Independence by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Informative

    You think Catalonia will have a hard time getting back into the Union? I bet they'd trade Spain for it in a heartbeat...

    Spain without Catalonia is essentially Greece when it comes to how broke they are.

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  4. Re: Support Right to Independence by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Maybe not the only factor but the single biggest factor.

    According to the Confederacy, it was the only factor.

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  5. Re: Support Right to Independence by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Informative