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Time To Move on from DevOps and Continuous Delivery, Says Google Advocate (zdnet.com)

Posted by msmash on from the perspective dept.

A reader shares a report: Continuous improvement and continuous delivery (CI/CD) and DevOps may be on many peoples' minds these days, but there's nothing particularly new about the concept -- software shops should have put these concepts into action years ago. Instead, technology leaders should be now worrying about the futures of their businesses. That's the view of Kelsey Hightower, staff developer advocate at Google Cloud Platform, who says too many IT leaders are debating how to manage IT operations and workflows, when their businesses are being hit with unprecedented disruption. "CI/CD is a done deal -- like 10 years ago it was a done deal," he said in a recent podcast with CTO Advisor's Keith Townsend. "There is nothing to figure out in that domain. A lot of people talk about DevOps, and there may be some culture changes, in number of people who can do it or are allowed to do it. For me, that is the table stakes. CI/CD, DevOps; we have to say, listen, figure it out, or go work with another team outside this company to figure it out."

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  1. heads were removed from anuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So somewhere along the way people figured out again that quality of software is more important than the speed in which new features are pushed out the door.

    I guess the cranio-rectal inversion over devops crap is finally coming to an end.

    Next will be when everyone moves their stuff to an "internal" cloud. Just like when people moved off of timeshare mainframes to computers on premise.

    1. Re:heads were removed from anuses by Dayze!Confused · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nope, turns out this person is arguing for software quality. They think CI/CD is settled in the sense that it isn't going away, stop trying to change it, move on to other things like the latest buzz words. I believe CI/CD is what has made software shit these days. Companies start by promising x number of features, and rush it out the door after x-y>0 features are partially done, then CI/CD with users as their beta testers. You no longer have a finished version and solid piece of software, and no way to stick with a particular version, which is especially true on the walled garden of iOS. Gone are the days of a solid product coming out that stands on its own for years without the need for anything but occasional security updates.

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      "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." [Thomas Jefferson]
    2. Re:heads were removed from anuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It was a thing, pre-internet.

  2. The future is NoOps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    With Amazon Lambda and other microservices, you just need HR to hand out IAM accounts, and a company really doesn't need an IT staff whatsoever. Just some CI/CD mechanism to get pushes in production, and that is basically it.

    Ops is dead. Who needs to rack and stack physical servers when the cloud takes care of that, and far cheaper. Who needs OS guys, app guys, net admins, and DBAs when serverless services replace all this?

    Lets be real... the future is NoOps. Pay your Amazon bill, and they take care of your IT infrastructure.

    1. Re:The future is NoOps by sexconker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      With Amazon Lambda and other microservices, you just need HR to hand out IAM accounts, and a company really doesn't need an IT staff whatsoever. Just some CI/CD mechanism to get pushes in production, and that is basically it.

      Ops is dead. Who needs to rack and stack physical servers when the cloud takes care of that, and far cheaper. Who needs OS guys, app guys, net admins, and DBAs when serverless services replace all this?

      Lets be real... the future is NoOps. Pay your Amazon bill, and they take care of your IT infrastructure.

      The cloud is NOT cheaper. Amazon is expensive. And you never know how much you're going to pay.
      Even hosting a simple static website is a nightmare. They have about different 40 products for simple domain name management alone.