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CBS Sues Man For Copyright Over Screenshots of 59-year-old TV Show (arstechnica.com)

CBS has sued a photographer for copyright infringement for publishing a still image from a 59-year-old television show. From a report: The lawsuit against New York photojournalist Jon Tannen, filed on Friday, is essentially a retaliatory strike. Tannen sued CBS Interactive in February, claiming that the online division of CBS had used two of his photographs without permission. Now, CBS has sued Tannen back, claiming that he "hypocritically" used CBS' intellectual property "while simultaneously bringing suit against Plaintiff's sister company, CBS Interactive Inc., claiming it had violated his own copyright." "Without any license or authorization from Plaintiff, Defendant has copied and published via social media platforms images copied from the Dooley Surrenders episode of GUNSMOKE," write CBS lawyers. CBS is asking for $150,000 in damages for willful infringement.

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  1. How long will this nonsense continue? by Skinkie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What has to actually change to prevent these kind of out of proportion, justice and claims?

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    1. Re:How long will this nonsense continue? by alexo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What has to actually change to prevent these kind of out of proportion, justice and claims?

      Human nature.

    2. Re:How long will this nonsense continue? by Kaenneth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Copyright being limited to 25 years.

    3. Re:How long will this nonsense continue? by Tjp($)pjT · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Looks like a candidate for being considered a SLAPP suit. Joe Tanner should amend his complaint and request both cases be merged and his damages requested be raised to 100 million as it will irreparably damage his reputation. Or at least present that from his lawyers to CBS's. There is legislation to use to fight SLAPP suits.

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    4. Re:How long will this nonsense continue? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, because copyright is governed by international agreements. The shortest they can go is fifty years, under the Berne convention - any less than that would result in the government being sued in international court, and failure to abide by the treaty would result in expulsion from the WTO with devastating economic consequences. For countries in Europe, it's seventy years under the Copyright Duration Directive, or seventy years after the death of the author for works which have an individual individual author

  2. Lawyer payback by BrookHarty · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This was petty payback by the CBS legal department because the guy sued CBS for using his copyright photos without approval.

    So the lawyer at CBS is suing him for using screenshots. Very petty since everyone shares screenshots and screenshots are not photos.

    So fucking petty, and this should be a SLAP lawsuit and the Judge should bitch slap the CBS lawyer for abusing the courts.

  3. Re:Should be expired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    "So if you write a book and it doesn't get published by any of the publishers you send it to, they can just wait 20 years and print your book for free?"

    Copyright in the US doesn't work that way, as long as you follow the Rules. One is providing a copy for Registration to the US Copyright Office. This is ironclad. Copyright is automatically granted on creation by Law, but Statutory Damages, that is, Damages awarded above and beyond potential Monetary Damages, usually only applies to Registered Works. Lawyers generally won't bother representing non-Registered works.
    Publishing in its entirety without permission is very much against the Rules, something that both Twain and Dickens railed against.
    But another Rule applies to Fair Use, and this is evolving. Fair Use for Academic reasons, that is in textbooks or Research papers, is generally allowed, as is Fair Use in commentary; that is, a Still from a TV Show in a larger Work describing Acting or Lighting technique is OK, and in fact, this is also protected by Copyright.
    What is a big Nono is distributing that entire TV Show for profit without permission. This is generally considered Piracy, and quite rightly.

    Without seeing the full context of the works in question, a case for Fair Use is nothing that we can determine for ourselves. Frankly, Tannen seems to have an excellent case, but not a $150,000 case.
    Maybe a $60 each infringement case.
    CBS has no case at all, since Tannen apparently in context took full advantage of Fair Use, placing the Still in context of a larger work, that is, a defense of Fair Use itself.
    BTW, Dillon was a Murderer, Doc was a Drunk, and Miss Kitty was a Publican/Whoremaster. CBS should not be holding them up as something that they are proud of. Festus... he was an OK dude.

  4. Re:Should be expired by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So? The exclusivity of copyright isn't in any way a natural law - it's an artificial creation which society provides for a limited time to encourage creation, so that society can afterwards gains from unrestricted use of that work. Nobody writes a song assuming an ROI covering more than 20 years. Copyright doesn't need to be longer than that (or the original 14 + one 14 year renewal, which I support) in order to encourage creation of new works. Current term is life of the author plus 70 years. Would you at least agree that is too long?

    There's no reason for Beatles songs to still be under copyright, either songwriting or performance. Same for Disney's Snow White. It's long past time for society to get paid for providing those exclusive rights to begin with.

    Copyrights are automatic at the time of creation. A patent is much more effort to obtain, not just the idea but the documentation and process. Yet they last only 20 years. And there's no lack of new inventions because of it.

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  5. Re:Should be expired by srmalloy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And that's another problem with copyright as it's been implemented. When you publish a work, you are contracting with the government to protect your work for the period of copyright at the time you publish the work; if the term of copyright is later extended, it should not retroactively apply to already-published work. Those works were published with the full knowledge and agreement of the creator knowing what the term of protection was; if they weren't satisfied with the term of protection, they were free not to publish.

  6. Re:Should be expired by St.Creed · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some projects take that long to complete.

    Do you work for Accenture by any chance?

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  7. Re:I know who to blame by St.Creed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yep. Although to be honest, while they fucked over the world, the EU did the same by trading Disney's copyright extension for continued support of EU agriculture subsidies. Equal opportunity assholes.

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