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Exit Interview: Scott Kelly (atlasobscura.com)

An excerpt from a new interview of Scott Kelly, now a retired astronaut, who spent 11 months and three days at the International Space Station in one stretch: Q: What does space smell like?
It smells different to different people. Some people say it smells sweet. To me it smells like burnt metal, like if you took a blowtorch to some steel or something.

Q: When you're up there on the ISS, arguably you're the most expensive human being on the planet except the president. The amount of resources being spent to keep you alive are enormous. Did that weigh on you at all?
Never even thought about that. No. Never considered it. I appreciated the effort that people went through to make sure you're safe, and are taken care of and supported while you're there, but I never considered the cost of it.

Question: Did it feel like, 'Man, I gotta work all the time'?
I think some people feel that way. I kind of felt that way on my [first, six-month ISS mission]. But having flown for six months, and then a few years later flying for a year, I realized I couldn't do that. So I definitely had to pace myself throughout the course of the year.

Q: Did you lose anything in the station?
All kinds of stuff! One of the last things I remember losing was this fancy, 3-D printed cover for some experiment. It was for the camera and I turn around and the thing's gone, and they didn't have a spare. I've got to see if they've found that thing yet. Oh, yeah. We lost a bag of screws and washers one time.

Question: When you're on the U.S. side of the ISS and the Russians are on their side, how much interaction is there, day-to-day?
They work predominantly in the Russian segment and have their meals there, so during waking hours, they're generally on their side, we're generally on our side. You interact, you go down there, you chat with them, you come back, you might perform some kind of experiments, they might do a little thing in our space station, but it's what we refer to as "segmented ops."

Question: Does it feel like you're all in it together?
Yes! Absolutely. We actually do some things to help each other that we don't even share with the ground because then it creates like bureaucratic ... issues for them to deal with. I've been asked to help fix some of their hardware, their treadmill one time. We help each other getting trash off the space station without telling the folks in Houston.

62 comments

  1. You drove a woman to kidnap her love rival by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's your secret?

    1. Re: You drove a woman to kidnap her love rival by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't stick your dick in crazy.

  2. Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For a change...

  3. Wow, that's some amazing science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and awesome exploring that's been going on in 50 years. We need more people in Low Earth Orbit playing treehouse.

  4. Always wanted to ask by Lucas123 · · Score: 1

    What it felt like sitting atop the rocket, ready to launch?

    John Glenn's answer has always stick with me: “I felt about as good as anybody would, sitting in a capsule on top of a rocket that were both built by the lowest bidder.”

    1. Re:Always wanted to ask by mykepredko · · Score: 1

      I always thought Chris Hadfield's answer to that question when the shuttle was flying was the most profound.

      He that he was most scared that the launch would be cancelled as he generally had friends/family at the Cape and they couldn't stick around to see the later launch.

    2. Re:Always wanted to ask by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 1

      What it felt like sitting atop the rocket, ready to launch?

      John Glenn's answer has always stick with me: “I felt about as good as anybody would, sitting in a capsule on top of a rocket that were both built by the lowest bidder.”

      I always thought that was Steve Buscemi's (Rock hound) line from Armageddon?

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    3. Re:Always wanted to ask by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Real quotes... movie quotes... all written in Taiwan!

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    4. Re:Always wanted to ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lucas likes it up the ass.

    5. Re:Always wanted to ask by fermion · · Score: 1

      He does talk about what it is like coming down on Russian hardware. You are crammed into a small space. Piece of the vehicle are flying off and passing in front of the viewport, which is inches away from your face. It is so exciting he said, it is the main reason he would go up again.

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    6. Re:Always wanted to ask by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Was that the primary buffer panel?

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    7. Re:Always wanted to ask by drsquare · · Score: 1

      The shuttle sure as hell wasn't built by the lowest bidder.

    8. Re:Always wanted to ask by drsquare · · Score: 1

      When did John Glenn fly in a Russian capsule?

  5. So, you're littering in space? by madcarrots · · Score: 1

    Can you explain more about "[w]e help each other getting trash off the space station without telling the folks in Houston."

    This sounds very suspicious.

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    "Knock the stones together, guys!"
    1. Re:So, you're littering in space? by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      Can you explain more about "[w]e help each other getting trash off the space station without telling the folks in Houston."

      This sounds very suspicious.

      They refill supply capsules with the trash and then release them so that they burn up in the atmosphere.

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      The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
    2. Re: So, you're littering in space? by jo7hs2 · · Score: 1

      Out of curiosity though, doesnâ(TM)t Houston need to know how much weight remains on the station for stationkeeping maneuvers and whatnot?

    3. Re: So, you're littering in space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect all of those calculations are at best, rough estimates that get routinely fuzzed. So much mass has been added and expended and there are so many other fuzzy variables such as atmospheric drag and solar wind that is unpredictable, that throwing off a few extra pounds of trash here and there hardly makes a difference.

    4. Re: So, you're littering in space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if you think space is real and the Earth is a sphere.

    5. Re: So, you're littering in space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he means that they all cooperate in the labor of moving the waste from the station to the capsules, when Houston thinks only one or two are doing the work and the others are doing other tasks. The Russians help the American do his job rather than watching experiments that don't need to be watched or working out or whatever.

    6. Re: So, you're littering in space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no

    7. Re:So, you're littering in space? by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      "[w]e help each other getting trash off"

      I figured someone would have figured out the innuendo by now, but I guess not.

      I'd state it, but modesty forbids me.

      Of course, you already had it figured.

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      His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
  6. Not quite by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Q: When you're up there on the ISS, arguably you're the most expensive human being on the planet "

    Rather the most expensive human being NOT on the planet.

    1. Re:Not quite by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      You'd have to being sold to be "the most expensive human." Probably why he never thought about it; he was never up for sale.

      Maybe there is another similar, but slightly different, question they should have asked instead?

  7. That's the beautify of highly intelligent by elcor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    and balanced people, their default behavior is to collaborate.

    1. Re:That's the beautify of highly intelligent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I honestly think that's the default behavior for most people if you keep the group small enough. Most people as individuals don't want to fight each other or segregate off from one another. It's not until you get a group of people large enough to need some form of bureaucracy that you start to see a shift towards segregation and and willingness to fight to keep that segregation enforced. Throw some religion into the mix for the real fireworks.

    2. Re:That's the beautify of highly intelligent by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      I honestly think that's the default behavior for most people if you keep the group small enough.

      I’ve worked with a lot of different people - “most” is a significant overstatement. Some are sneaky by nature, while a goodly number think the definition of “collaborate” is “I will tell you what to do and you will do it”.

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    3. Re:That's the beautify of highly intelligent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I honestly think that's the default behavior for most people if you keep the group small enough.

      That's cute. You have internet access. By now you should know that there are truly disgusting people out there, even if you have not had the misfortune of meeting them. People who hardly qualify as people. A lot of people are manipulative, especially when they have nothing else going for them. If you think that small groups bring out the default behavior of people, you're sorely mistaken: Small groups have strong social dependencies and control. People can't risk alienating the few people they have to be around all the time. Give them the freedom to switch allies without repercussions and they'll behave how they really are. Nice people are not the majority.

    4. Re:That's the beautify of highly intelligent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I imagine "necessity" is a factor. As triviality increases (ie a surplus of safety, resources) you get increased dumbshittery.

      Though, even in survival scenarios, there does seem to be an awful lot of belligerent "WHO MADE YOU THE BOSS" types in books/movies. And what I've observed in the meatspace does seem like it could indeed extrapolate->manifest as such, when the zombie virus hits or whatever.

      Some people think having the guns will matter in crisis scenarios. Some think it's those with tools, knowledge, manufacturing, seeds. But a few have suggested that social skills will be your best ally. Not just "get along" skills, but aptitude at being charismatic or becoming a warlord. Alternately, for interacting with local power. Defusing situations. Being convincing, whether you seek to be deceptive, encouraging, etc. tldr not just a stat dump IRL

      Right. Space station. Attitudes and tribalism probably depend on stress as much as group size.

    5. Re:That's the beautify of highly intelligent by Travco · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly, So many times in my work life I've found - less than adequate coworkers slacking or sabotaging - like they needed to work at being bad. Sometimes I wonder how any progress happens.

    6. Re:That's the beautify of highly intelligent by Travco · · Score: 1

      I usually default to "never ascribe to malice, what can be explained by incompetence" Though I admit the difference is often slight

    7. Re:That's the beautify of highly intelligent by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      The other thing is - I suspect it's not so much cooperation as "uniting in the face of a common enemy", where that "enemy" is perceived bureaucratic nonsense.

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    8. Re:That's the beautify of highly intelligent by Kjella · · Score: 1

      That's the beautify of highly intelligent and balanced people, their default behavior is to collaborate.

      Smart people who feel they're among their peers mostly yes, unless it becomes too competitive. It's frustrating not having anyone to bounce ideas back and forth with. It's more frustrating when you try to do that with colleagues and hit thin air. It's extremely frustrating when your peer group overrides you even though you're sure they picked an inferior solution that'll cause you lots of woes down the road. But the most frustrating is when you're pulling all the weight and nobody seems to give you any credit for it.

      I remember once in school we got to pick our own groups, the three absolutely brightest in the class (top grades end of year) and one second tier grouped up. You might think we'd be at cruising speed because even with a modest effort would put us at top of the class. Instead it was like hey, no lightweights. Everybody wanted to prove they belong in this group. We found relevant data, made an in-depth analysis, had proper reviews, constructive feedback, meaningful discussions and batted it way, way out of the ballpark.

      What was the result of that? Well the final results were to be presented in class, which was plain awkward. Without any of the usual suspects distributed to carry the group some of the other groups were plain abysmal, while our report was basically rubbing their noses in it. Not that we were trying to be mean, but we did want to excel. From that day to the end of that school I don't think we ever got to pick our own groups again, at least not with that teacher. They put some educational spin on it, but it was pretty clear to me it was for the weaker pupils' benefit and not ours.

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    9. Re:That's the beautify of highly intelligent by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Ding ding ding.

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      His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
    10. Re:That's the beautify of highly intelligent by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Well, there's a bell curve of people. The more the people, the more the chance of encountering someone way on the negative end of the curve. Still, I might even agree that most people are sneaky and bossy. So, "normal".

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      His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
  8. Interesting responses from 7 other astronauts here by RDW · · Score: 3, Funny

    'What's it like to float hundreds of miles above the Earth's surface? We asked seven astronauts to tell us everything.'

    Barry Wilmore: "You never know true beauty until you see Earth from space, or true terror until you hear someone knocking on the space station door from outside. You look through the porthole and see an astronaut, but all your crew is inside and accounted for. You use the comm to ask who it is and he says he's Ramirez returning from a repair mission, but Ramirez is sitting right next to you in the command module and he's just as confused as you are. When you tell the guy this over the radio he starts banging on the door louder and harder, begging you to let him in, saying he's the real Ramirez. Meanwhile, the Ramirez inside with you is pleading to keep the airlock shut. It really puts life on Earth into perspective."

    http://www.clickhole.com/post/...

  9. Tricks of a round Earth warlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They fake the moon, they fake space. Whatever it takes to convince you the Earth is round, because they certainly can't prove it.

    Space is fake. The Earth is flat. The eclipses prove it.

    Solar Eclipse: https://vimeo.com/230976895 Corona lines can be observed to move faster than the speed of light. Light of the chromosphere can be observed on the back of the moon.

    Lunar Eclipse: https://vimeo.com/92378881 Shadow is black, then changes color to reddish: Shadows don't change color. Moon glow of uneclipsed portion increases as shadow becomes reddish, detail lost.

    1. Re:Tricks of a round Earth warlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go back to Yahoo Comments where you belong.

    2. Re:Tricks of a round Earth warlock by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      Space is fake. The Earth is flat. The eclipses prove it.

      Interestingly, eclipses prove the exact opposite of what you're saying. Their timing alone proves Keplerian mechanics, for example.

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    3. Re:Tricks of a round Earth warlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watch the videos. Explain what is seen using your round Earth system.

      Keplerian mechanics shows the heavens move spherically. It does not prove the Earth is a sphere. Do not assume Earth and the heavens are the same.

    4. Re:Tricks of a round Earth warlock by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      "Space is fake". No, it isn't, it works exactly as computed and the likelihood of a wrong calculation returning results accurate to many, many, many decimal digits compared to celestial observations is so amazingly low that I feel fully justified to label you as a drooling retarded idiot.

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    5. Re:Tricks of a round Earth warlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it works so well, why dark matter? Why dark energy? Because the math DOESN'T check out.

      Think about how you feel thinking about this; it isn't your rationality speaking, it is your programming. You've been told: do not question this system.

    6. Re:Tricks of a round Earth warlock by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Having knowledge and complete knowledge are two different things. Just because we had figured out the solar system before the 20th century doesn't mean we weren't surprised how big the universe really is in the 20th one.

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    7. Re:Tricks of a round Earth warlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, but that's exactly the kind of thing that catches you in a lie when you've already fixed the force of gravity. Later, when it turns out the rest of the universe is moving to a different value, you're left with admitting your original lie, or making a bigger one: dark matter. Then when the math shows the universe shouldn't be expanding still, you invent dark energy.

      But this isn't where the action is. The eclipses are where the rubber meets the road. When the celestial bodies interact, is it matching the description of the interaction we were given? Once you have seen that, you'll have the necessary doubt to look deeper. When all you have is multiple digits of mathematically certainty, no inquiry can be made.

    8. Re:Tricks of a round Earth warlock by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      They fake the moon, they fake space. Whatever it takes to convince you the Earth is round, because they certainly can't prove it.

      Can you write this up, with diagrams, as an article for Slate ? They eat up stuff like that.

    9. Re:Tricks of a round Earth warlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They would probably be better served by writing about Kyrie Irving. They can make the same smirks, with much less effort.

    10. Re:Tricks of a round Earth warlock by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Y'all are have some real fun there. Yippee eye ow kiyay

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      His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
  10. My question by boudie2 · · Score: 1

    What's REALLY going on? One-hundred and fifty billion dollars for a few experiments?

    1. Re:My question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main experiment is the astronaut in space for that long. What's needed to avoid him/her getting sick.
      The other is stuff in space for that long. What breaks, what lasts, what degrades.
      Methods and maintenance of making things and people in orbit last longer. Do you know any better ways of testing humans in space than in orbit?

    2. Re:My question by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      What's going on is that the Shuttle made the assembly of the station *extremely* expensive. In a decade or two, you'll be able to launch a similarly capable station for one fiftieth of the cost.

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    3. Re:My question by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Welcome to progress.

      That same tale can be told for virtually any bit of technology. Waiting is for slow people and the infirm.

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    4. Re:My question by bored · · Score: 1

      It could have been done less expensively even back then, except that the space shuttle needed a "mission" and using it a a freighter was a good political decision.

  11. Mission control reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm pretty sure someone at mission control was seriously pissed when they read that
    1. We lost a bag of screws and washers one time
    2. ...getting trash off the space station without telling the folks in Houston.

  12. Re:Interesting responses from 7 other astronauts h by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like the Eileen Collins "quote" best: "I was looking forward to being weightless, but gravity still works for me in space. It kind of sucks seeing all the other astronauts floating around while I’m stuck on the floor."

  13. Smell of Space by fermion · · Score: 4, Informative
    I saw him and he elaborated on 'the smell of space'. It was the smell of the airlock, or whatever, that had been recently exposed to the vacuum of LEO and then pressurized. He said it was a unique and clearly identifiable smell.

    The interesting thing is the vacuum of low earth orbit is pretty dirty. We can make much better and cleaner vacuum on earth on a limited basis, say in a cubic meter or so. Even on earth, after pressurizing a vacuum you can smell the difference. On earth that might be because it is a nitrogen rich atmosphere at that point. But there is smell.

    The most poignant thing he said was that he got a call where NASA cut off external communications, like to NASA TV, to talk to him. It was about his sister in law being shot. Each time the channels were cleared after that he wondered what catastrophe happened.

    The funniest thing is the difference between Russian and US culture. When there was a possibility of a collision, one that would like destroy the station, the US procedure was to lock everything down in a futile attempt to minimize damage. The Russian response was to accept the inevitable outcome if the station was hit and have lunch. It reminds me of French colleague that always insisted that the problem would still be there in a hour, so there was no reason not to have a peaceful lunch.

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    "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
    1. Re:Smell of Space by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I wondered about how he "smelt space". He did mention outgassing in TFA, but not from what. It brings another human sense into play.

      I wonder what space tastes like?

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      His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
    2. Re:Smell of Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Semen, definitely semen.

  14. NPR Interview by Thelasko · · Score: 1
    He also did a recent interview with NPR. (He's on a book tour) I found one of his responses very interesting.

    It does require a certain level of focus, especially when stuff, you know, starts going wrong or becomes difficult. You know, it's something I think the military trains us really well for, is focusing on what we can control and ignoring what we can't, whether that's, well — in space we can't control, you know, the fact that we could meet our demise at any time. We can't control how distracting the Earth looks and how incredibly beautiful it is. We can't control how everything floats around, and that makes stuff more difficult, so yeah, compartmentalization is very important.

    Something all of us should remember.

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  15. At first I read Scott Kelby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You got me all excited. Kelby has become nothing but a windbag and really needs to stop!

  16. 205 Mile Plus Club??? by Whorhay · · Score: 1

    Did he just talk around astronauts getting naughty on the space station. He specifically said the Russian cosmonauts work and eat on their side of the station during waking hours. Why bother being that explicit about the timing?