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Study Finds Robot Surgeons Are Actually Slower and More Expensive (theregister.co.uk)

"Robot-assisted surgery costs more time and money than traditional methods, but isn't more effective, for certain types of operations," reports the Register, in an article shared by schwit1: In a study of almost 24,000 laparoscopic surgeries just published in The Journal of American Medicine, researchers from Stanford University School of Medicine analyzed data from 416 hospitals around the U.S. from 2003 to 2015. Robotic assistance provides 3D-visualization, a broader range of motion for instruments, and better ergonomics for physicians, according to the study. While it has advantages in scenarios where a high-degree of precision is required or where improved outcomes have been demonstrated (like radical prostatectomy), it appears to be a waste of resources for the two operations examined... But the patient outcomes were more or less the same.

A thematically-related economic study presented by the National Bureau for Economic Research on Monday suggests that while AI and machine learning have received substantial investment over the past five years and have been widely touted as a transformative technologies, "there is little sign that they have yet affected aggregate productivity statistics... The simplest possibility is that the optimism about the potential technologies is misplaced and unfounded," muse Erik Brynjolfsson and Daniel Rock (MIT), Chad Syverson (University of Chicago) in the paper.

But instead the paper's author suggest that fully realizing the benefits of AI "will require effort and entrepreneurship to develop the needed complements, and adaptability at the individual, organizational, and societal levels to undertake the associated restructuring."

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  1. So? by mark-t · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There was a time when what were once called horseless carriages was slower than using a horse,.

    Give it time.

    1. Re:So? by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The study says even less than that. It's more like some horseless carriages were slower than some horses, on an odd-numbered Wednesday if there's an R in the month and the wind's blowing from the east.

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  2. Way to miss the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, these people completely missed the point of these procedure techniques. They are not intended to make surgery more efficient or cheaper. They are intended to make them SAFER. They have a much lower impact on the human body and produce much less shock. They have shorter recovery time. They produce drastically less scarring.

    Amazing how wildly out-of-touch technologists can be that they consider speed and cost to be more important than the health and well-being of the patient.

    1. Re:Way to miss the point by sjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nobody did that here. They looked at 3 cases: Open surgery, laparoscopic surgery, and robot assisted laparoscopic surgery. They found that laparoscopic beat open in patient outcomes (so it's a good thing). They further found that adding the robot did nothing to improve outcomes but did cost more (a bad thing) and take longer (also bad and potentially a safety risk).

      An exception, called out in the summary, is radical prostatectomy where the robot did improve outcomes.

  3. Sample size by The+Cynical+Critic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hope that I'm not the only one puzzled with the number of surgical procedures being evaluated here. A single procedure done carried out using 3 different methods is hardly going to produce enough data to make any kind of assessment as how the different methods compare. Sure, you can talk about how they compare for this particular procedure, but even at that we're talking about footnote-level importance here.

    Hell, I'd even go far as to argue that the real story here is how something as insignificant as this was given this much attention and how badly it's very specific conclusions were over-extrapolated to make a headline as eye-catching as possible.

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    1. Re:Sample size by rhsanborn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's actually the point. We aren't trying to determine if robots are good or bad in general. It's irrelevant. The researchers are trying to determine if robot assisted surgery is better than non-robot assisted surgery for specific surgeries. This is how doctors determine the best course of action to use in a specific situation, and whether insurance companies will cover extra costs for those particular actions. It looks like 2 particular surgeries show no benefit of robots and that doctors probably shouldn't generally use those robots for those procedures, and insurance companies shouldn't pay anything extra for the use of robots in those procedures. We should hope they're working on studying the efficacy of robotic assistance in more surgical procedures.