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Why Google Should Be Afraid of a Missouri Republican's Google Probe (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: The Republican attorney general of Missouri has launched an investigation into Google's business practices. Josh Hawley wants to know how Google handles user data. And he plans to look into whether Google is using its dominance in the search business to harm companies in other markets where Google competes. It's another sign of growing pressure Google is facing from the political right. Grassroots conservatives increasingly see Google as falling on the wrong side of the culture wars. So far that hasn't had a big impact in Washington policymaking. But with Hawley planning to run for the U.S. Senate next year, we could see more Republican hostility toward Google -- and perhaps other big technology companies -- in the coming years. The Hawley investigation will dig into whether Google violated Missouri's consumer-protection and antitrust laws. Specifically, Hawley will investigate: "Google's collection, use, and disclosure of information about Google users and their online activities," "Google's alleged misappropriation of online content from the websites of its competitors," and "Google's alleged manipulation of search results to preference websites owned by Google and to demote websites that compete with Google." States like Missouri have their own antitrust laws and the power to investigate company business conduct independently of the feds. So Hawley seems to be taking yet another look at those same issues to see if Google's conduct runs afoul of Missouri law.

We don't know if Hawley will get the Republican nomination or win his challenge to Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) next year, but people like him will surely be elected to the Senate in the coming decade. Hawley's decision to go after Google suggests that he sees some upside in being seen as an antagonist to a company that conservatives increasingly view with suspicion. More than that, it suggests that Hawley believes it's worth the risk of alienating the GOP's pro-business wing, which takes a dim view of strict antitrust enforcement even if it targets a company with close ties to Democrats.

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  1. Why companies should stay out of politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When your company founders are openly supporting the political opposition party, your company partnered with the old government, and your company has demonstrated your willingness to censure political thought of the user base when they go against your chosen politics, then you shouldn't be surprised that your company becomes targeted by the opposition party when your party is out of power. You made your bed, now sleep in it.

    1. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by markdavis · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >"Why companies should stay out of politics"

      +1 Google has been ACTIVELY "left", so why would this surprise anyone? And "left" government officials have done exactly the same type of harassment as this in the past. It is best to be neutral on political things not directly about business.

      Actors, too, should keep the hell out of politics. A lot of them look pretty damn stupid going on ads telling us how to vote, or making stupid political commentaries, as if their opinions are somehow more valid, important, or enlightened than the rest of us.

    2. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Google has been ACTIVELY "left", so why would this surprise anyone? And "left" government officials have done exactly the same type of harassment as this in the past.

      So many commenters here have been quick to forget discriminatory IRS practices under Obama.

    3. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yup. And actually the recent kerfuffle with Keurig shows the same thing.

      Media Matters called up Keurig and convinced them to pull advertising from Hannity because he was, according to Media Matters 'pro child molestor'. None of which was true of course.

      http://www.dailywire.com/news/...

      So Keurig pulled their ads. Of course at that point the right started a 'boycott Keurig' campaign, with videos of people smashing their Keurig machines. Though as Ben Shapiro pointed out - smashing a machine you already own doesn't make any sense. All you need to do is stop buying K cups from Keurig.

      Now in the long run this means that companies will either be Democrat companies or Republican ones. Up to now that hasn't happened. E.g.

      http://www.foodandwine.com/fwx...

      Experian assigned number values to restaurants, with 100 representing neutral territory. That means that a restaurant that scores 120 on the liberal index boasts 20 percent more liberals at its tables than average. The numbers aren't all that surprising. California Pizza Kitchen brings in the most liberals, with a score of 146 on the lefty index. O'Charley's-a chain located throughout the South and Midwest-and Cracker Barrel have the most conservative clientele, scoring 121 and 118, respectively, on the righty index.

      I live outside the US and CPK used to have a branch near me and I used to quite like their salads, despite being politically conservative. If I was in the US I'd have gone there too. However suppose CPK took a political stand I didn't approve of. Then I'd eat somewhere else.

      Companies don't realise that as soon as they take a political position they will please about half the people and alienate about half. However the people they please are not going to shop their more and the people they alienate can easily shop somewhere else. I.e. companies taking an open political stance is a net loss.

      People who don't realise this are spending too much time inside an echo chamber were everyone things their politics are virtuous and the other side's politics are evil.

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    4. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Agreed. If actors had stayed out of politics, we wouldn't have Reaganomics or the current shit show.

    5. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Insightful

      LOL if you don't think Google is left and SJW, you're so far inside your own bubble that anyone to the right of Mao Zedong looks like a nazi to you.

      "Googleâ(TM)s political bias has equated the freedom from offense with psychological safety, but shaming into silence is the antithesis of psychological safety," he wrote in his TL;DR section of the memo. "This silencing has created an ideological echo chamber where some ideas are too sacred to be honestly discussed. The lack of discussion fosters the most extreme and authoritarian elements of this ideology."

      The response? Threats of violence. "Do you understand that at this point, I could not in good conscience assign anyone to work with you? I certainly couldnâ(TM)t assign any women to deal with this, a good number of the people you might have to work with may simply punch you in the face, and even if there were a group of like-minded individuals I could put you with, nobody would be able to collaborate with them. You have just created a textbook hostile workplace environment."

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    6. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You mean the thing that was investigated by a republican congress and didn't happen?

    7. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Funny

      Everybody should stay out of politics. Only professionals should express their opinions.

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    8. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Informative

      US debt to GDP is already at over 100%

      https://tradingeconomics.com/u...

      It's forecast to stay there

      https://tradingeconomics.com/u...

      Now going from $19 Trillion and 100% of GDP to $51 Trillion and presumably over 200% of GDP doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

      And that's from one policy. Most people think the forecast is hopelessly optimistic and if you're willing to add $32 trillion to the debt over one policy to buy votes, what's to stop you adding another one?

      It's disastrous. And up until the last election most Democrats knew it. Hillary still does

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

      In an interview published Wednesday, Ezra Klein of Vox asked Clinton, who defeated Sanders to become the Democratic presidential nominee in 2016, what she thought of the independent Vermont senator's Medicare-for-all plan, which he is set to release later Wednesday.

      "Well, I don't know what the particulars are," Clinton said. "As you might remember, during the campaign he introduced a single-payer bill every year he was in Congress - and when somebody finally read it, he couldn't explain it and couldn't really tell people how much it was going to cost."

      Clinton also highlighted what she saw as potential flaws in selling such a plan: special interests and public sentiment.

      "When I was working on healthcare back in in '93 and '94, I said if we could've waved the magic wand and started all over, maybe we would start with something resembling single-payer plus other payers, like other countries that have universal coverage and are much better at controlling costs than we do, primarily in Europe," Clinton said. "But we were facing the reality of not just strong, powerful forces but people's own fears as well as their appreciation for what they already had."

      As an example, Clinton cited the difficulties with the attempt at single-payer in Sanders' home state of Vermont, saying it was "difficult to out the pieces together."

      In Vermont Single Payer For All failed

      https://www.politico.com/story...

      I bet the Democrats end up supporting it though and wheeling out Jimmy Kimmel to cry that anyone who opposes it wants kids like his to die.

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    9. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Shoot, this is a hard argument to make. Mainly because facts like this just don't matter in political perception. It doesn't really matter what Google does, the OPs point was that the founder's political activities position the company, and that's exactly right. The founders worked for a partisan presidential campaign, and took advantage of great access to the White House. I don't actually think there was a profit motive there. I think they did that to try to help the country, and I think they did help the country.

      But it doesn't matter what their motivations were. It doesn't matter what the company does.

      To answer your pointed question directly: "ACTIVELY left" means running the web strategy for Obama's first campaign. It's totally within their rights to do that, but it's clearly political activity and forms a justified basis for the perception of bias.

      On another note... you are the reason why the right wingers won the last presidential election. You can't claim to be tolerant and progressive while expressing such disdain for people with different political viewpoints and cultures. It's hypocritical. It plays into people's fears that folks on the left would prefer to force people to behave a certain way, and that modern liberalism is dead.

      And hey, right wingers don't have to deal with this standard? Tough shit. You worry about you first. Welcome to trying convince people of your good intentions.

      If it makes you feel better, all ANYONE on the left needs to do is simply not fuck up for the next year (until the midterm elections). Don't denigrate anyone's religion or culture. Don't imply that rural folks are stupid, lazy, or uneducated. Just don't be an asshole, and the Republicans are going to self destruct their way out of power. It is absurd that this needs to be said.

    10. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You mean the thing that was investigated by a republican congress and didn't happen?

      OJ isn't a murderer. Clinton didn't perjure himself. Bill Cosby, Weinstein, and all the others never molested anyone. Etc.

      Interesting that pointing out left wing bias is modded offtopic while the opposite is not. Almost as if one side is more insincere than the other these days, not unlike equating a lack of criminal conviction with the absence of action...unless it benefits your political party of course.

    11. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Democrats haven't been able to buy people since Republicans passed the 13th Amendment

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...

      Though arguably the H1B visa allow companies to have indentured servants. I'm surprised the Democrats haven't suggested illegals getting three fifths of vote.

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    12. Re: Why companies should stay out of politics by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmm well when you support the left wing candidate for POTUS

      I don't remember Google supporting Jill Stein.

      Oh, you meant Clinton? She's centrist, not leftist. Keep trying kiddo, you'll get it never.

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    13. Re: Why companies should stay out of politics by GLMDesigns · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's a reflection upon you if you think Bernie Sanders is middle of the road.

      The biggest problem in politics is we don't have a definition of "right" that makes any sense.

      Ayn Rand and Adolf Htler cannot both be "right-wing". They are mutually exclusive.

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    14. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by gbjbaanb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately the bias is prevalent from the left - but that's because the left-wing media actively encourages it and is mainstream, while the right-wing media is simply ridiculed when they do it. The difference is clear that the media on the left, that gives a free-pass to bad practices from the left is the mainstream.

      What we should be doing is holding up all examples of bad practice, and criticisng it. The left-wing media should be holding the left-leaning companies and individuals to as much rigour as they can to weed out the bad uns. But instead, we know our media is biased and polarised and this only drives society to be even more tribal and encourages "opposition" media to appear to counter it. This state of affairs is really is nobody's best interests except the political activists who want to make elections about tribal loyalty and not policies.

    15. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, the one that didn't happen so bad that Tea Party groups ended up with a $3.5M settlement.

      Keep on being a dumb fuck though, it's clearly working for you.

    16. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by netizen_james · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You mean the ALLEGED discriminatory practices which, upon investigation, were discovered to be unfounded? Those practices?

      Which of these facts are you claiming is not a fact?: "the FBI told Fox News that its investigation had found no evidence so far warranting the filing of federal criminal charges in connection with the controversy, as it had not found any evidence of "enemy hunting", and that the investigation continued. On October 23, 2015, the Justice Department declared that no criminal charges would be filed. On September 8, 2017, the Trump Justice Department declined to reopen the criminal investigation into Lois Lerner, a central figure in the controversy.[1] " (wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...) (see also: https://www.npr.org/sections/i... )

      What you really mean is that mean old nasty IRS was actually enforcing the regulations concerning 501(c) groups that were ILLEGALLY putting money into Republican campaigns, and were allowing the wealthy to anonymously contribute thousands of dollars which they wouldn't have been able to do through normal campaign donations. It seems like conservatives in general think that the laws don't apply to them, because they think they're doing "God's work", and to them, 'God's laws' (or rather, their very constrained and contorted INTERPRETATIONS of 'God's laws') always beat out 'Man's laws'.

      This is the same dynamic that has conservatives excoriating Bill and Hillary (him for having an affair, and her for sticking by him in spite of the affair), while ignoring or excusing the serial philandering of Newt Gingrich, Henry Hyde's affair, Bob Livingston's affair, or the paraphilia of Denis Hastert. This is the same dynamic that allows conservatives to decry the actions of Harry Weinstein, while ignoring the similar allegations against Roy Moore.

    17. Re: Why companies should stay out of politics by netizen_james · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Rand was simply a moron - her 'objectivism' isn't 'rightwing', it's just a stupid attempt to justify greed and selfishness. The 'collectivism' that the Randians decry is what the rest of us call 'civilization'. If all the Randians were rounded up and put on Madagascar to fend for themselves, they'd all die because to them, cooperation is anathema.

      Yes, Hitler was 'right wing'. Most authoritarians are. No, Stalin was not a leftist. Neither was Castro. They were both authoritarians too.

      If you want to see a 'leftist' nation, you need only look to Norway and Denmark. If you want to see a 'libertarian' nation, you won't find one. Anywhere. Ever. There's a reason for that.

    18. Re: Why companies should stay out of politics by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      I never said Clinton was the most liberal candidate but she sure as hell isn't centrist in the US.

      Yes, she absolutely is. She is as bought and paid for as any of her fellows, and she is a corporatist through and through. There are notably more leftist politicians in the media on a regular basis.

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    19. Re: Why companies should stay out of politics by desdinova+216 · · Score: 2

      to the ultra conservative media anyone who proposes anything that benefits someone other that their money people is "left" or liberal

    20. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, sure, Google is a monopolist bully that censors speech, invades privacy, and uses shade practices to kill their competition, but they're on our side!

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    21. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 2, Informative

      So many commenters here have been quick to forget discriminatory IRS practices under Obama.

      You mean the thing about IRS investigating a group that said it didn't like taxes at all? Whyever would they try cheating on tax returns?

      It was a much wider program than that, there were many groups. When all that happened, my wife was the head of a group in our state. She got started with the Ron Paul campaign, before the "Tea Party" was really a thing, so she got her org's 501(c)(3) status before the IRS started targeting conservative groups.

      So since that was already in place, they went after us personally instead. There were audits, bills, threats, all based on nothing. We kept filing paperwork and responses to their queries, which somehow the IRS never received. I'd mail AND fax the stuff in, call to confirm and they just tell me I have to wait 6 weeks. 6 weeks pass and somehow they never got it. Send it again, and more threatening letters. We had to start making payments for a bill we didn't owe because they were shutting down our bank account.

      The funny part is, less than a week after the "investigation" ended with a finding that the IRS "did nothing wrong," I get a call from a IRS rep that says they just got our case on the desk. He asked a couple of questions and gave me a fax number. Sent in the paperwork and called the next day, everything was cleared up.

      So, yea, I don't buy that they weren't targeting people.

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    22. Re:Why companies should stay out of politics by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bullshit.

      When all that happened, my wife was the head of a group in our state. She got started with the Ron Paul campaign, before the "Tea Party" was really a thing, so she got her org's 501(c)(3) status before the IRS started targeting conservative groups.

      So since that was already in place, they went after us personally instead. There were audits, bills, threats, all based on nothing. We kept filing paperwork and responses to their queries, which somehow the IRS never received. I'd mail AND fax the stuff in, call to confirm and they just tell me I have to wait 6 weeks. 6 weeks pass and somehow they never got it. Send it again, and more threatening letters. We had to start making payments for a bill we didn't owe because they were shutting down our bank account.

      The funny part is, less than a week after the "investigation" ended with a finding that the IRS "did nothing wrong," I get a call from a IRS rep that says they just got our case on the desk. He asked a couple of questions and gave me a fax number. Sent in the paperwork and called the next day, everything was cleared up.

      So, yea, I don't buy that they weren't targeting people.

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    23. Re: Why companies should stay out of politics by kaatochacha · · Score: 2

      So essentially, your definition is : Authoritarian and/or greedy=right, stuff I like=left.
      I hate to break it to you, but the extreme right and the extreme left are like the far side of a donut--they're barely indistinguishable from each other in how they achieve their goals. Your argument is sort of like sayinig "Well, he was (my group), until he did (bad thing), then he wasn't. Because my group doesn't do (bad thing).

    24. Re: Why companies should stay out of politics by Pubstar · · Score: 2

      They can both be right wing. What you're look at is something that is a line segment from Left to Right. You need to add the vertical graph of Authoritarian and Libertarian to that, so you have a plane that they can exist on.

  2. Re:Why exactly does Google by MachineShedFred · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously though, what is the googs doing that would make them seem like suspicious to conservatives?

    They donate lots of money to Democrats.

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  3. Regulations by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, basically, reducing regulations only matter when it affects large Republican donors?

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    1. Re:Regulations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      So, basically, reducing regulations only matter when it affects large Republican donors?

      Yes. More generally, one's legislative agenda serves only those who have contributed to one's election and future re-elections.

      This also works in the reverse order, those who do not donate receive lots of regulatory attention. Remember pre-1996 Microsoft saying they didn't see a need to lobby? Well, after Janet Reno finished with them, they do not do that anymore.

  4. Re: Why exactly does Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I didn't look closely, but my understanding was that Damore was quite liberal, just apparently not the kosher type liberal.

  5. Just so we're clear... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Republican attorney general of Missouri has launched an investigation into Google's business practices. Josh Hawley wants to know how Google handles user data. And he plans to look into whether Google is using its dominance in the search business to harm companies in other markets where Google competes. It's another sign of growing pressure Google is facing from the political right. Grassroots conservatives increasingly see Google as falling on the wrong side of the culture wars.

    They don't have a problem with Google's business practices, their privacy intrusion, their anti-trust violations. The problem is that they do all these things while not supporting the GOP.

    Maybe if Sundar Pichai, the CEO of Google were to molest some children they'd be more comfortable with him.

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    1. Re: Just so we're clear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      If the women were underage, he could run for senate in Alabama.

      The difference between Dems and Repubs is Dems condemn their criminals, Repubs call it fake news.

    2. Re:Just so we're clear... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Child molesting is a left-wing thing.

      So Roy Moore has secretly been a left-winger all his life? Trump? But the real difference is that the left-wing public is totally willing to throw all of those people under the bus, but the right-wing public is all too ready to make excuses for child molesters. Roy Moore has got over fifty churches making apologies for him, which makes sense given that there are whole books of the Christian bible which are literally nothing but apologia for older books in which God and his followers act like fuckheads constantly.

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  6. Google is a monopolist in advertising by FeelGood314 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You are not google's customer. You are the product. There is no monopoly on search, there is almost no barrier to creating a new search engine and there is nothing sticky about me using Bing, Google or DuckDuckGo. Google is completely up front about what they do with the data people freely give them.

    Google is how ever a monopolist in advertising. If I want to buy advertising on the internet I go to Google. They make it easy, they give me amazing tools and they can sell me placement everywhere. No other advertiser on the non-facebook internet is even relevant. On the flip side if you want to sell advertising space on your website, unless you want to have a real sales team, you have no choice but to sell to Google. The barrier to entry in online advertising is massive. Search, email, maps, documents, etc., those are just added lines of defense to protect adwords.

    1. Re:Google is a monopolist in advertising by coofercat · · Score: 2

      No monopoly in search? Really? Google has something like 80% market share globally - that looks like a monopoly to me [source: https://www.netmarketshare.com...

      there is almost no barrier to creating a new search engine

      Yep, no barrier, except maybe millions of dollars and years of development work, oh and millions more in servers to actually crawl the Internet. Oh, and then somehow you've got to prize people away from their default browsers, 'mind share', phones and whatever else. Seems like small-potatoes to me too.

      Google is completely up front about what they do with the data people freely give them.

      Well, I'd disagree because people aren't aware of what they're giving google, and aren't aware of the ways it gets used either. "We use it to target ads at you" really doesn't do justice to the amount of data they scoop up and how much 'mining' they do on your data and how they use that data to influence you in various ways.

      Google is how ever a monopolist in advertising

      There we agree, although until recently Yahoo actually had a larger advertising network than Google. The critical difference is of course that Yahoo's network didn't extend to the search results page on Google search. Once you needed to use Google to put ads on that one page, it was easy to put them elsewhere too. One could argue that Google used their search dominance to gain advertising market share, which is really what happened but would be hard to prove sufficiently clearly in any legal proceedings unless you happen to get a dump of Google's internal email over the last 10 years or something.

    2. Re: Google is a monopolist in advertising by upl8n87447 · · Score: 2

      "Even for companies that have the resources". But do they? You have to consider that massive mega-wealthy companies like Google can buy up a massive chunk of the best talent in the world, as well as buy out companies with a flick of their pens.

      Look at college hiring for instance. The best of the best students are often pulled into these companies early on through internships, and then locked in once they graduate. Through non-compete contracts, once a person is in these companies, it's not so cut and dry to go work for a competitor.

      Add to this that Google has been around for a long time and has hundreds of thousands of man hours that have gone into their system, how could a new competitor ever hope to reasonably catch up. The sheer amount of money Google have invested into their technology is a massive sized mountain for any other company to climb.

      Then of course there's customer loyalty / customer simplicity. Bing or other search engines may be better in some respects than Google, but people don't care about metrics. They just jump on google to search like they always do.

      This is why I think "the possibility" of competition isn't a great metric to use when considering whether a company is a monopoly. User base / profitability percentages must be considered. I also think "breaking up" companies isn't always the best solution, rather those at the top of the food chain should have to pay higher taxes, whereas those on the bottom should get better incentives. We, as a nation, need to enforce rules that will keep the top in check, while empowering the bottom to compete.

  7. Re:Headline by Bodhammer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which are the right wingers on this list? https://www.opensecrets.org/se...

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  8. Manipulation of available information by Kagetsuki · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not just "grassroots conservatives" that are worried about this. Re: the Demore memo, but also the fact Google was contributing to the Clinton campaign, and of course the "american scientist" search results. I'll grand that search result could be an organic result... but the fact we've had multiple engineers stating it's common practice to feed the engine specific data to "help" it find the right data does make me pretty suspicious. You can't deny most people use Google services, so if what they see come up on those services is manipulated for political gain, directly or indirectly, that's a pretty scary thing - especially when you consider there seems to be a large push for a non-meritocratic/anti-technocratic culture within the current ranks of Google employees.

  9. Re:Headline by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    James Woods is about the only conservative actor and he even admitted it hurt his career.

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  10. Re:This site used to be about tech and tech news.. by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 2

    Now it's all political and how anyone not fully left of center is evil.

    I'm sorry, I must have missed it for all the right-wing FYGM shit that I have to wade through to read any actually intelligent comments.

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  11. Re:Why exactly does Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No. They have an ever widening ring of censorship that is targeting conservative voices on Youtube. Additionally, it is now known that they have a toxic leftist monoculture that is hostile to conservative workers in their work force that became apparent with the firing of James Damore. Who dared ot ask reasonable questions but felt the full rage of the toxic left because it impinged on their every widening ideology of identity politics that is essentially cult-like now.

  12. Irony by McFortner · · Score: 2

    Funny how the people who distrust big business the most are the ones screaming about somebody wanting to shine the spotlight on Google.

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