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OnePlus 5T Featuring 6-inch AMOLED Display, 3.5mm Headphone Jack Launched (wired.com)

Posted by msmash on from the new-smartphones dept.

Chinese smartphone maker OnePlus, which has been lauded by consumers for offering phones with top-of-the-line specs at a reasonably affordable price range, on Thursday at an event in New York announced its newest flagship smartphone. Called the OnePlus 5T, the handset sports a 6.01-inch AMOLED screen (screen resolution 1080 x 2160) manufactured by Samsung in a body that is roughly of the same size as the 5.5-inch display-clad predecessor OnePlus 5. The secret sauce is, much like Samsung, LG and Apple, OnePlus has moved to a near bezel-less design. The company is not getting rid of the fingerprint scanner though, which it has pushed to the back side. The front-facing camera, additionally, OnePlus says, can be used to unlock the device. Other features include a 3,300mAh battery with the company's proprietary Dash Charge fast-charging tech (no wireless charging support -- the company says at present wireless charging doesn't really add much value to the device), top-of-the-line Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 processor with Adreno 540, 6GB of RAM with 64GB of storage (there is another variant of the phone which offers 8GB of RAM with 128GB of space). As for camera, we are looking at a dual 16-megapixel and 20-megapixel setup in the back. One more thing: the phone has a headphone jack and it runs Android 7.1 out of the box. The OnePlus 5T will go on sale in Europe, India, and the United States starting November 21st, with the base model priced at Euro 499, INR 32,999, and $499, respectively. The high-end variant is priced at Euro 559, INR 37,999, and $559. Wired has more details.

54 comments

  1. OnePlus Admits to Collecting Your Data... by wooppp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While OnePlus will provide fix for security issues, you have to play cat and mouse all the time... https://www.tomsguide.com/us/o...

    1. Re:OnePlus Admits to Collecting Your Data... by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Just install Resurrection Remix.

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    2. Re:OnePlus Admits to Collecting Your Data... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bootloader is locked... good luck unlocking it without bricking...

    3. Re:OnePlus Admits to Collecting Your Data... by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

      fastboot unlock

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    4. Re:OnePlus Admits to Collecting Your Data... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes you can do these things and yes it is very good that such things are possible but certainly you can see why the iPhone is so popular. Android is such a mixed bag when it comes to support that the best option is to completely abandon the manufacturer, unlock the bootloader and install a different operating system in the hopes it will remain better supported.

    5. Re:OnePlus Admits to Collecting Your Data... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...the best option is to completely abandon the manufacturer, unlock the bootloader and install a different operating system in the hopes it will remain better supported.

      That is ALWAYS the best option, no matter the platform.

  2. Free publicity by joao.cordeiro · · Score: 3, Funny

    The new way to make publicity: make a article showing your product and present it like it is news....

    1. Re: Free publicity by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      ...and write it poorly at that.

    2. Re:Free publicity by sd4f · · Score: 1

      But that's because tech journalism is largely fulfilled by people who have no technical experience, and are more interested in looking the part (i.e. hipster/geeks) than actually dealing with technical information, and since a lot of people are fairly lazy to begin with (i'm guilty of that) why write something, when someone else has already done that for you.

      A part of it also, and this goes more broadly, the review industry loves being subjective, because it allows them to be vague and not particularly truthful when it comes to reviewing stuff from good advertisers and companies who provide them with free junkets and products to review. This is just part of the perennial problem of drawing a line between editorial and advertorial control of a publication.

    3. Re: Free publicity by joao.cordeiro · · Score: 1

      I'm not against tech news. I'm against them being on slashdot. Those don't strike me as "stuff that matters".

    4. Re: Free publicity by sd4f · · Score: 1

      Well, I agree, but if there were some innovative development in the oneplus phone, I certainly would think it would matter if someone had the expertise to explain it in some detail, but fact of the matter is, most tech journalists are just unable, unless it's prepared for them in a media release.

  3. Fuck OnePlus and their information gathering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nuff said.

  4. Headphone Courage by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    (Circa 2014)

    Manufacturer - "Our phone comes with a headphone jack."

    Customer - "Uhhh, no shit. Why are you even telling me this?"

    (Circa 2017)

    Manufacturer - "Our phone comes with a headphone jack."

    Customer - "Ballsy move man. I'm impressed by your courage."

    1. Re:Headphone Courage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Mods are slipping! Mod +1 Funny!

      He said "courage" when talking about phones! On Slashdot, that is automatic +5 Funny!

    2. Re:Headphone Courage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I hope you realize the only reason the word "courage" has any meaning when discussing technology is because a world famous CEO used it as a cover up for removing a very useful feature from a phone just to fleece it's customers.

      To be more clear, he lied out of ass and no one took him to task. People opened the iphone and found the space *empty* where the headphone jack used to be. And then they added a 3d poop emoji VR scanner in the extra space on their next phone iteration... Some amateur even later put his OWN headphone jack in place.

      So, yes, it will be funny/insightful/whatever for a long, long time. This is tech history now. The fact that this CEO didn't fired for lying his ass off to the entire world, and actually being supported by so many goes to show how cowardly and deluded the world is getting.

    3. Re:Headphone Courage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple never miss an opportunity to make an ASS of themselves! :-) After all..They have to match their users! :-)

  5. Mozilla Foundation should cease to exist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    It's time that the Mozilla Foundation cease to exist. Firefox 57 actively harm's users and their tactics are on par with Microsoft's rollout of Windows 10.

    Many people depend on extensions such as Noscript for security within their browser. Some of these extensions have been broken in Firefox 57, and as of now, functionality hasn't been restored. Despite claiming to be a security update, many users are left less secure than they were before. Furthermore, automatic updates that many users are experiencing break Firefox security extensions without any interaction on the part of the user. The lack of many APIs needed for these extensions to function leaves users without a reasonable alternative.

    The Firefox developers are actively working to break these extensions and prevent users from running legacy extensions. The webpage https://wiki.mozilla.org/Add-ons/Firefox57 clearly states, "the main goal is prevent the running of legacy add-ons in Firefox Desktop and Android release." The Firefox developers are actively working to harm users when this renders security-related extensions like Noscript unavailable. It reduces functionality for users who rely on legacy extensions for productivity.

    The Mozilla Foundation is supporting and funding these activities. When open source developers actively work against users, there needs to be community backlash. It is time that the Mozilla Foundation cease to exist, because their actions are deliberate and actively harm's users.

    1. Re:Mozilla Foundation should cease to exist by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      Nice copy-paste Chrome shilling.

      Noscript is coming in a couple of days because the developer is slow on the conversion to WebExtensions. The new API has been available for a long time, everyone knew the release date of FF57 and that new extensions would have to be in WebExtensions format from that date. The fact that some extension developers weren't ready is their own problem, maybe you should donate some time or money to them, if you care so much?

      Besides, uMatrix is available and is a much more powerful alternative to NoScript.

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  6. Headphone Jack! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obligatory reference to OnePlus' lack of courage.

    1. Re:Headphone Jack! by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2

      Real courage at this point would be bucking the trend and selling a phone with all the features people want but which are being removed - removable battery, SD card, headphone jack, fingerprint scanner on the front. And stock Android. Instead it seems like all the manufacturers seem to be competing as to who can remove the most things people want while at the same time introducing things like higher display resolutions when the 1080p on a three year old phone is already fine and more pixels usually means less battery life, thinner handsets, face recognition replacing fingerprints or scanners on the back, Bixby buttons and glass front and back that no one wants.

      Meanwhile of course after each release we find that they 'didn't sell as many as they hoped' and that the follow up would be 'radically different'. Which usually means more useful features being lost.

      You can see Samsung's sales falling off. E.g.

      First month sales for the S4 - 10 million

      https://www.digitaltrends.com/...

      First month sales for the S5 - 11 million

      Five million S8 and S8+s in the first month

      http://www.zdnet.com/article/s...

      I.e. things are not going well for Samsung.

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    2. Re:Headphone Jack! by Big+Boss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are pros/cons to all the fingerprint scanner locations. I think on the whole, I'd prefer it on the front with a physical home button, so it could be accessed when the phone is sitting on a desk, but my current device has it on the back and it's not that bad. I'm also a weird one that would like all the navigation keys to be physical, so I'm an outlier. I also completely agree with SD, headphone jack, and removable battery. I bought a Nexus 6 with neither SD nor removable battery. After a couple years the battery holds about 50% charge and as apps and such keep getting bigger, I get low on space. With SD, I can move my media over there and leave the internal for the apps etc.. And as I don't mind my phone being a few mm thicker, I can install an extended battery and have power for days.

      I wish someone would make a device targeting enthusiast users. Those features, a 6" class screen, 1080p is good enough. Say, $500, and release a working AOSP build tree from the start. It doesn't have to include any extra features for the OS, just the base AOSP with all the hardware working properly would do fine. For real bonus points, a working standard Linux kernel would be great. Break off the proprietary bits with source stubs like the Nvidia drivers so we can update the kernel. I'd love full open source, but for some reason that's a big ask. So how about meet us in the middle?

    3. Re:Headphone Jack! by exomondo · · Score: 1

      The simple answer is that people don't need to upgrade their phones all the time, they're good enough now. As you say, the S5 already has all the features you want.

    4. Re:Headphone Jack! by yzf750 · · Score: 1

      so +5 insightful for wanting those features, launch a kickstarter and make the phone.

    5. Re:Headphone Jack! by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but phones don't last forever. I'd have upgraded from my S5 by now if it wasn't for the fact that more modern Samsung phones are increasingly crippled.

      I can't be the only one in that situation.

      As yzf750 put it here, someone needs to launch the Kickstarter and build the phone.

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    6. Re:Headphone Jack! by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Well with replaceable/expandable components there's no reason they shouldn't last a very long time indeed, add that there's huge amounts of existing stock. If you like it, invest in a couple of those now for the event of catastrophic failure and you should be good beyond the next decade or so.

  7. Runs Android 7.1 out of the box by trawg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Doesn't that just mean it's obsolete out of the box given the current version of Android is 8 (Oreo)?

    Pretty much the only thing I ever want to know about new Android phones is whether or not I'm going to get the latest updates. These days unless it's a Pixel the answer is 'no' (maybe that will change with this Project Treble thing) but for some reason we still get breathless Android phone announcements like this Wired one that are all about how many megapixels or bezels it has.

    1. Re:Runs Android 7.1 out of the box by guacamole · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think it's fair to say that 99% of all phones that already run Oreo are Google's own Pixel and Nexus phones. Oneplus historically hasn't been bad about updating its phones. For example, they promised the Oneplus 3 and 3T should get Android 8 eventually. Their update cycle is actually faster because they don't sell any carrier branded phones. Marshmallow and Nougat are the most popular Android versions (each taking around 30 percent of market), so either of those is hardly obsolete.

    2. Re:Runs Android 7.1 out of the box by trawg · · Score: 1

      Marshmallow and Nougat are the most popular Android versions (each taking around 30 percent of market), so either of those is hardly obsolete.

      I guess their obsoleteness depends on the exact state of their software. I can't remember when Android started doing the security patch version (Marshmallow?) but I suspect many of them are running M or N but at a minor version number that does not include the latest security updates.

      My partner is a big OPO fan & almost certainly will get this new version. She's not at all interested in the security issues I raise. If I can't convince her, I can't convince anyone - so I don't know what chance the average person has to make sure they're getting a less insecure phone experience.

      (I since looked at the official site; this new phone also runs OPO's own version of Android, OxygenOS - not at all sure how it diverges from mainline Android.)

    3. Re: Runs Android 7.1 out of the box by Type44Q · · Score: 2

      obsoleteness

      There's actually a word for that...

    4. Re:Runs Android 7.1 out of the box by mrscorpio · · Score: 1

      OnePlus has historically been a DISASTER for updates.

      One: Abandoned Cyanogen business relationship, in parallel released test Oxygen released, also abandoned
      Two: Promised upgrade to Nougat, never happened
      X: Abandonware
      3/3T: Getting Oreo "eventually", still in beta. Shipped with Marshmallow way into the Nougat release cycle, took nearly a year beyond that to get Nougat.

      Only get a OnePlus phone if you are comfortable with and intend on running a custom ROM, and also hope the hardware is defect free because their customer support is atrocious as is their software quality despite being close to AOSP.

    5. Re:Runs Android 7.1 out of the box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure where you're getting your info from -- Oxygen is still the 1+ OS, not sure how that was `also abandoned`.

      I've got a 1+3 right now running Nougat from OTA updates. I got the Nougat update months before my wife's Galaxy. Even my 1+1 was still getting regular system updates until it was destroyed about 7 months ago.

    6. Re:Runs Android 7.1 out of the box by nasch · · Score: 1

      I can't remember when Android started doing the security patch version (Marshmallow?)

      If you mean the permission overhaul, yes that was in Marshmallow.

  8. Oneplus pricing creep by guacamole · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no denying that Oneplus 5T is a good value considering you get top shelf hardware spec for 500-something USD. However, this is no longer a budget "flagship killer" phone the way the original 300/350USD Oneplus One (16/64GB) used to be in 2014. At this +500 price, you can find mainstream brand phones, such as LG G6. I was able to score a Galaxy S8 for under 500USD with a trade-in phone. Other things being equal, I still prefer Oneplus to LG, but a lot of brand loyal who were originally attracted by low pricing will start wondering what happened.

  9. Spyware for free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OnePlus includes spyware and sells your personal data, at no additional cost to you.

    1. Re:Spyware for free by mandark1967 · · Score: 1

      Shut up and take my identity!

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  10. Meaningless Piece of Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the specs mean jack shit if the bootloader is locked. That's the surest sign that the software on the phone is working against you and the manufacturer doesn't want you to be able to stop it.

    1. Re:Meaningless Piece of Shit by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      Nothing wrong with a locked bootloader if it's easily unlocked..
      These phones have a locked bootloader as a defence against accidental breakage or malware, you can unlock the bootloader easily if you choose to do so.

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  11. Their cost is low because they sell your data by axettone · · Score: 1

    Take a look at this: - Another Shadt App Found Pre-Installed on OnePlus phones https://thehackernews.com/2017... Quote: "A security researcher just found another secret app that records tons of information about your phone"....

    1. Re:Their cost is low because they sell your data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Who buy's a OnePlus phone and leaves the OnePlus software on it? It's easy enough to remove it and install a new ROM, kernel, and recovery?

      The most important question is will the screen be installed right side up this time. Or will it still have the same jelly effect that the OnePlus 5 had. Until someone does a tear down, or we see the kernel source code, we won't know (and I won't order one).

    2. Re:Their cost is low because they sell your data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good point. Hardware seems fine but their software is spyware.

    3. Re:Their cost is low because they sell your data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who buy's a OnePlus phone and leaves the OnePlus software on it? It's easy enough to remove it and install a new ROM, kernel, and recovery?

      Yeah, like who wouldn't know that?

    4. Re:Their cost is low because they sell your data by Kamien · · Score: 2

      "Since OnePlusLogKit is disabled by default, the attacker would require access to the victim's smartphone to enable it." So what is the problem exactly?

  12. And still on OIS by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Continuing the cheaper EIS, which is way inferior to the optical stabilization found on their previous phones. Along with backdoor spy programs that are known, and what isn't known, it's not a bad phone, but, I'd wait a few months for them to get the kinks worked out. All of their phones have had out the door bugs. Going from the 3 to the 3T, wasn't as bad, and since the 5 & 5T are pretty similar, it probably won't have as many bugs, but the lack of OIS is a problem, unless you just don't care about the IQ of the image. Zoom into the image, and you will see lack of sharpness in the detail.

  13. JShit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    polite t0 3ring cycle; take a

  14. No water resistance. Pass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No water resistance. Pass.

    1. Re:No water resistance. Pass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us aren't slave to fad specs.

    2. Re:No water resistance. Pass. by fabriciom · · Score: 1

      Because you love biking under rain right?

    3. Re:No water resistance. Pass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No water resistance. Pass.

      Because you love biking under rain right?

      No, he has just dropped too many phones in the loo while wanking off to pornhub.

  15. Use Firefox ESR. Problem solved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use Firefox ESR. Problem solved. By the time ESR is updated with this API change, any maintained plugin should be updated to run in it.

  16. So? If you use stock Android, that's already happe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...ning.

    The whole point of Android, is to make Google, the mother of all data kraken, more money.

    Anyone who's interested in not being tracked will (let his geek friend) install a new OS without even booting Android.

    My GF works in a very privacy-sensitive field, and has no clue about computers. Yet she knew precisely that there might be tracking and that that is not acceptable. So she asked me to remove it. Same thing with all her colleagues.
    (People always assume that just because people are clueless about computers, they would be clueless regarding privacy and security too. But people who care about these things, know what to do, no matter what they're experts in.)

  17. Re:So? If you use stock Android, that's already ha by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    Which OS will you install in place of Android that brings you the security and functionality you need ?

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  18. Re:So? If you use stock Android, that's already ha by Bert64 · · Score: 1

    Android itself isn't the problem, it's the applications and customisations applied by google, handset makers and network operators. The stock open source Android (AOSP) is fine, and there are various community builds available.

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  19. Other OS : Example by DrYak · · Score: 1

    the best option is to completely abandon the manufacturer, unlock the bootloader and install a different operating system in the hopes it will remain better supported.

    Example of a different operating system with commercial support : Sailfish X (for Sony Xperia X) by Jolla, the former Nokia engineer who were working on Maemo/Meego for the N700/N800/N900/N9 series before Elop and Microsoft happened to them.

    That's another alternative possibility to the usual suspects (like LineageOS, etc.)

    (Note: NOT Android based at all - except for the platform drivers, it's still GNU/Linux under the hood like back when at Nokia).

    Regarding phones fromOnePlus, Jolla doesn't currently have an official line of products, but there's a vibrant community so a community port might show up in talk.maemo.org

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  20. Re:So? If you use stock Android, that's already ha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Android itself isn't the problem, it's the applications and customisations applied by google, handset makers and network operators. The stock open source Android (AOSP) is fine, and there are various community builds available.

    Don't kid yourself, Android IS the problem.