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Silicon Valley Thinks It Invented Roommates. They Call It 'Co-living' (theguardian.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Have you heard of this cool new trend called co-living? It's a bit like co-working, except instead of sharing an office with a bunch of randoms you share a home with a bunch of randoms. Oh, you might be thinking, is it like ye olde concept of "roommates"? Why, yes. Yes it is. As a viral tweet pointed out earlier this week, "co-living", which has inspired a spate of trend-pieces in recent months, is actually "called *roommates* ... you invented ***roommates***." Now, to be fair, co-living isn't just living with a bunch of roommates. No, it's rich millennials living with a bunch of roommates in a fancy building in a recently gentrified part of town. The co-living space is also full of cool amenities like yoga classes and micro-brew coffee bars, meaning you can minimise unnecessary interactions with the outside world. In startup speak, this is what is called "community." The Collective, for example, a co-working space in London, describes co-living as "a way of living focused on a genuine sense of community, using shared spaces and facilities to create a more convenient and fulfilling lifestyle."
$subject already says all I've to say on the matter.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
'The Collective, for example, a co-working space in London, describes co-living as "a way of living focused on a genuine sense of community, using shared spaces and facilities to create a more convenient and fulfilling lifestyle."'
We also may refer to that as a 'commune', 'compound', or 'cult'
Poverty.
Make 100K a year and live like you are 18 with your first apartment, all your life in SV.
...that's not what "progressives" want.
That's funny, because it's the sum of their policies.
Welcome to the progressive wet dream. Home ownership is for the 1% only (and optional).
You've misspelled conservative. Progressives want more housing and better housing affordability.
The rest get to live in shared housing, tied to it by monthly rent that is just high enough to ensure they can't accumulate wealth, and just low enough to ensure that anyone can get a 12x12 ft box for themselves.
Basically you're describing Feudalism, which is definitely not progressive. Its quite the opposite. Feudalism is where the lord maintains the ownership of all the lands and the tenants (serfs and freemen) rent off the lord for a portion of their produce. The tenants, well at least the freemen are permitted to work it as they see fit as long as the lords get their tribute. This is very much a conservative wet dream who are still bitter about having to give up any of their rights to the peasantry.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
The difference here is that instead of a ruling family you have "the government". The Soviets used to have an expression: "you own what you guard". When the government owns and controls everything, the bureaucrats own and control everything, including you. In Soviet Union, the government officials had property, income, and quality of life that far exceeded the rest, and was proportional to their position. I fail to see the difference.
And where did I advocate government ownership? Sure its better than Feudalism, but I'd still rather not have it (Communism originated from a time where Feudal lords still controlled much of eastern Europe like they did in dark age England, Feudalism in England was over before the US even existed).
Have you been to Manhattan, San Francisco, Silicon Valley - they so-called havens of the progressives? They are far more segregated, stratified, with their high castles inaccessible to the common citizens, compared to the South, for example.
Have you? These aren't liberal havens. The people who live in SF, Manhattan, Central London et al want to keep their property prices high and the riff raff out. They aren't progressive in any way shape or form no-matter what Fox News tells you. Why do you think multi-millionaires flock to these places to live if they're so bohemian? Clue by four, if that were true they wouldn't.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
So... from mom's basement to assisted living to nursing home.
Back where I come from we only have such programs for retards. Then again...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Welcome to the progressive wet dream. Home ownership is for the 1% only (and optional). The rest get to live in shared housing, tied to it by monthly rent that is just high enough to ensure they can't accumulate wealth, and just low enough to ensure that anyone can get a 12x12 ft box for themselves. You don't need a bathroom - you can share. You certainly don't need a kitchen - you won't be doing any cooking of your own. And you surely don't need a garage because you'll use public transportation, or god forbid rent once in a while. Everything is disposable... and you're dependent on your betters for every aspect of your life. You won't even have a job of your own - you'll get free money from the government.
You do realize that you have just described where our capitalist system has led and is leading us, right? Are Republicans "progressives" now?
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Your argument is literally "liberals temper the negative consequences of their policies to be the maximum allowable without revolt." It's not a win that the economy is structured that people lack the ability to control their own lives, Hell, you couldn't even move off to live in the woods if you wanted to. You don't get to opt-out of society anymore.
but this sure as hell is it. Folks can't afford their own place, even into their late 20s or even 40s? Not getting on with the kind of life normal humans are expected to have? No problem, just change the name for all your social ills. A tiny apartment with 5 people crammed into it becomes co-living. Millennials now want 'experiences' instead of houses and cars. You're not single and lonely due to your crap economic position, your an independent free thinker. Now get back to work. These mansions, yachts and private jets (and accompanying private airports) aren't gonna pay for themselves.
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As long as they keep pretending they invented the world while at the same time not getting anything accomplished, we'll keep mocking them.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Just to remind you old folks, you're the ones who raised and taught these kids what they know. You're all just as responsible for this nonsense.
Sounds doubleplus good to me.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
So... from mom's basement to assisted living to nursing home.
Back where I come from we only have such programs for retards. Then again...
It's funny you got modded funny because it's pretty close to reality. I honestly hope California becomes its own country then they can go bankrupt with their socialist economy without dragging the rest of the country down.
We'll make great pets
There is a very clear divide between progressives and establishment democrats at the municipal level. I live in Seattle, which isn't one of the cities you list but has similar problems of officially being controlled by the "liberal" party but the municipal policy effectively greatly favoring current land-owners over renters (according to this site, 46% of the population, but likely non-citizens are overrepresented as Seattle has a lot of immigrants), homeless, and future residents.
Because Washington state has top-two primaries (instead of Democrat and Republican party primaries), this divide is very visible in Seattle politics, especially in our mayoral race last week where the primary had the eventual winner establishment candidate Jenny Durkan with 28% of the vote and the two leading progressive candidates each with 17% of the vote (and another with 12% of the vote; if only we had ranked choice primaries...). One of the main issues was that Durkan wanted to zone for less new housing and slower. And she won in part because home owners think that increases their property values. But "increased property values" is bad for anyone who wants to live in the area who does not presently own a home.
If you want to see progressive housing policy, look to Seattle Transit Blog calling for upzoning near any major transit route. Multiple people in the comments put forth arguments for eliminating zoning limitation on residential construction entirely. These policies are not even within the Overton window of political discourse at the level of campaigns for Seattle city positions.
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I think some millennials are so detached from reality because they haven't had to participate in "reality". The idea of "jobs" has become so ingrained and is so abstract from what "work" really is. Parents of these people are on average very well off. Even the poor are so well off that they don't repair their own stuff anymore hence kids don't learn that you even CAN repair and build things yourself. Some people literally are unaware that you don't have to go to a store to get things.
Makers used to be every god damn man on the planet that did his own home/car repairs or had a friend that could help.
Organic used to be called gardening, but then everyone spent all their money on Starbucks coffee and can't afford a yard so they have to have someone else grow it.
Jobs used to not be so abstract. Now Jobs = I do my assigned task and collect $ and expect someone else to handle all other unrelated tasks.
Cooking a regular meal is apparently so impressive that it is worthy of pictures and sharing with friends. Wtf. Its something people used to do around 3 times a day or 1,000 times a year. Now its practically a miracle for a millenial to cook a meal. I am sure there is some new term for cooking food too.
Society used to be about well rounded people and families that could somewhat self sustain. These people had more knowledge than their job requirements and what was on TV/netflix yesterday. Now 90% of the people on the coasts would probably die if new shipments of food and supplies didn't appear on store shelves every day. I'm not talking about "prepping". I'm just talking basic "hmmm, what could I do about this" type skills.
People are reinventing these words because they are SO IGNORANT that they literally don't understand basic things that every man knew by the time he was in his twenties 30 years ago. Its making me sick just thinking about this.
An old, tired and false argument.
You sound like someone who knows they don't have the ability to be successful in California.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!