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iOS 11 'Is Still Just Buggy as Hell' (gizmodo.com)
It is becoming increasingly apparent that iOS 11, the current generation of Apple's mobile operating system, is riddled with more issues than any previous iOS version in the recent years. Two months ago, in a review, titled, "iOS 11 Sucks", a reporter at the publication wrote: I'm using iOS 11 right now, and it makes me want to stab my eyes with a steel wire brush until I get face jam. Gizmodo today reviews iOS 11 after living with the current software version for two months: It's been two full months since Apple released iOS 11 to millions and millions of devices worldwide, and the software is still just buggy as hell. Some of the glitches are ugly or just unexpected from a company that has built a reputation for flawless software. Shame on me for always expecting perfection from an imperfect company, I guess. But there are some really bad bugs, so bad that I can't use the most basic features on my phone. They popped up, when I upgraded on release day. They're still around after two months and multiple updates to iOS. Shame on Apple for ignoring this shit. Now, let me show you my bugs. The worst one also happens to be one I encounter most frequently. Sometimes, when I get a text, I'll go to reply in the Messages app but won't be able to see the latest message because the keyboard is covering it up. I also can't scroll up to see it, because the thread is anchored to the bottom of the page. The wackiest thing is that sometimes I get the little reply box, and sometimes I don't. The only way I'm able to text like normal is to tap the back arrow to take me to all my messages and then go back into the message through the front door. [...] Other native iOS 11 apps have bugs, too. Until a recent update, my iPhone screen would become unresponsive which is a problem because touching the screen is almost the only way to use the device.
You are holding it wrong.
Table-ized A.I.
It seems like Apple got rid of the QA department... And not just for the iPhone.
Been using iOS 11 since beta on a 7s Plus,never had this issue. I am using an X with it now,never had that issue.
Gizmodo is anti Apple. Their reviews are entirely tainted and biased since they got caught trying to sell a stolen iPhone 4 back to Apple.
And WTF is up with this editor. Clickbait links, non technical articles. Slashdot owners should fix this, but the site has been a flaming car wreck for a while.
I know all the cool kids are doing Agile and sprinting away, and I think that's fine for development. But one of the things I really don't think is doing companies any favors is the super-fast iterations of operating systems. I'm a Windows guy and we see this with Windows 10 a lot...features just feel unfinished even when they're part of an official release. On the Windows Server side of the house, the pace is a little slower and it shows...server operating systems need to be more stable and not have surprising feature changes.
I'm an old fuddy duddy, but I think that core things like operating systems should have a slightly slower pace of development that allows for more testing and more careful planning. I see this in iOS 11 too...I just upgraded and was very surprised how many of the built-in apps have serious design flaws and appear to have been changed just because. (The Podcast app is unusable while driving anymore because you can't have it automatically play through a list of podcasts, as an example.)
Going super-fast and doing the DevOps thing is fine, but honestly a lot of this thinking came out of startups, where the product was an app whose only client is a smartphone, and whose only customer is a consumer who is getting a free service. Failures of this can be tolerated if you can quickly patch up the back end...but an OS deployed on a machine is a different story.
CEO responses to this kind of release:
Steve Balmer: Throws chairs while shouting "developers developers developers!"
Tim Cook: "LOL but look how much cash we have."
Satya Nadella: "Huh? We sold a phone?" Quietly high-fives himself in the mirror.
Steve Jobs: "You're holding it wrong". 3 days later several senior product positions at Apple open up for hiring. Spouses report their loved ones missing. Police find no trace but are baffled by reports of a severe thunderstorm located exclusively over Apple headquarters just after Jobs' announcement. Perfect iOS software released a few days later.
They're not bugs, you're just holding it wrong!
This shit behavior is omnipresent on my fiance's old 4S, which IIRC runs some flavor of iOS 9.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
I have a profound hearing loss and depend on the iPhone MFi to hear conversation through my aids during phone calls. It is a buggy mess- it will drop one or the other side (L/R) during a call, take seconds to decide how to handle to audio (between speaker and MFi) when a call comes in, and sometimes will route notification sounds through the aids. There is such a thing as inconvenience. But when your ability to hear on the iPhone through MFi is compromised, that is a huge problem.
Republican leadership = Idiocracy
That is the only thing that matters to me.
Fuck Google.
Gizmodo article, "iOS 11 Is Killing Me":
https://gizmodo.com/ios-11-is-...
lets look beyond the content/subjekt material for a sec.
does any one find it interesting that those whom generated this content, and further more those to contribute to this crap, speak so eloquently with Seve Jobs' virtual cock rammed so far down your throats?
apple products suck,
they are built as throwaways. Just like to Asshole "apple" culture. Look at the history @ hand?
So all u Apple individuals, eventually your products may receive the attention they deserve, just like that virtual dick thats being sucked will eventually climax, right?
enjoy
won't be able to see the latest message because the keyboard is covering it up
Phones used to have slide-out keyboards. This gave you a physical keyboard as large as the surface area of the phone, without covering up any of the screen real estate.
I never understood why people wanted on a tiny little 5 inch screen to cover half of it up with a keyboard, instead of using it to view the content you were trying to see.
This isn't counting the clusterfuck that is the ugly iPhone Ecks knob and corresponding "safe area" hack.
Thousands of app authors have had to modify their code (and worse - other people's code) to work correctly with that nonsense, and the cumulative cost of all those wasted person-hours is probably in the millions.
This article (more like a blog post) sounds like a teenager ranting in the most irrational way not providing coherent evidence for their claims many of which are ambiguous. Any review that uses terminology like "sucks" or "monkey armpits" and juxtaposes Samsung vs. Apple without any real comparison of the two products sounds like an article that isn't interested in providing useful information to consumers. They either 1) want to just rant and listen to themselves talk or 2) want to get ad revenue from sensationalism or both.
Why does this trash keep getting posted to slashdot?
We'll make great pets
It's been two full months since Apple released iOS 11 to millions and millions of devices worldwide, and the software is still just buggy as hell. Some of the glitches are ugly or just unexpected from a company that has built a reputation for flawless software. Shame on me for always expecting perfection from an imperfect company, I guess.
This perfectly defines an Apple user. You get rawdogged all the way to the bank, and you blame yourself for getting boned! If this was Windows, you'd be blaming Microsoft, if this was Unix, you'd be blaming open source, if this was the Republicans, you'd be blaming the Democrats (and vice versa), but when it comes to Apple, it's not their fault the software is buggy, it's yours for expecting Apple to deliver on their promises.
I have an Android phone (my personal phone) and an iPhone 6 (work provided)
There are aspects of iOS that I think are superior to Android. But it does seem that Apple rush-botched iOS 11.
Notifications: There is no way to clear all recent notifications at once. This only becomes available after they have "aged" enough. I like to keep the notifications clean, so this really bothers me. I have to clear them one at a time. Why take away the "Clear" function from the top of the notification list?
Battery life is noticeably worse than it was with iOS 10. The first unpatched iOS 11 was just awful. Once-a-day charging was the norm, then I could not get past 5pm without having to charge the phone. Patches have since made this better, but iOS 11 still sucks battery faster than iOS 10.
The swipe-up panel is terrible. Definitely a case of changing for the sake of change.
Auto-brightness. Which genius decided to bury this setting under "General --> Accessibility --> Display Accomodations"? Why isn't it under "Display & Brightness" from the main settings page? And if you manually change brightness from the swipe-up panel, auto-brightness is disabled. Then begins the lengthy PITA that is finding the Auto-Brightness option and enabling it again
To list some that come to mind. But there's more ... At least it seems that Apple is responding and issuing iOS 11 patches fairly quickly. But, really, these things should not have been released into the wild initially.
A negative Apple story posted by msmash? It must be a day of the week that ends with 'day'.
I've just spent the last 5 days coordinating a trade show, messaging like mad across iMessage, Hangouts, and e-mail, both from inside the apps and from the home screen. The problems described simply do not occur on my phone. I'm not sure why, but maybe the situation is just not as bad as this reviewer describes and the problem does not afflict every phone equally.
A lot of the time a device that's gone through multiple updates will be crappier than one which had the OS from the start. Presumably a device that's had multiple updates has a higher entropy in some way that's not entirely clear.
Certainly my Samsung Galaxy Android phones need a firmware reset every year or so or they become slow, run hot and crash regularly. Maybe it's the same with iOS devices too. Then again, one of the things iOS users bragged about was that their devices didn't need this sort of mollycoddling and a two year old device was just as snappy as a new one. Perhaps that's changed. Or perhaps it was never really true in the first place.
echo -e 'global _start\n _start:\n mov eax, 2\n int 80h\n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a;
But there is one bug that's been very annoying for my wife. Apparently none of her custom ringtones work in iOS 11. They just revert back to the system default ringtone, which is bad because she ignores calls from anybody who doesn't have a custom ringtone set. The worst part is that the ringtone files are still there and can be set and previewed in the address book, but when an actual call comes in the phone refuses to use them.
I read the internet for the articles.
Ship it!
This is just a software issue since it doesnâ(TM)t happen will all phones running iOS 11.
Just erase and install and move on ya big cry baby you.
Traditionally on /. there's also a link in the summary, not just the title
`Trap Crap Clickbait site for Hares. https://gizmodo.com/tag/ios-11
I've upgraded 3 iphones and 2 ipads and haven't had a single issue. No bugs for me.
yeah! only OCD people need to use the "i" character... there is no limit to the reality distortion field, truly.
i don't have the latest iphone so i can't atest to that. i have an iphone 4 and it works.
as a software and hardware engineer, the apple ios like anything is on again off again and has been on a winning streak since 2000..
when steve died, so did his brutal feedback on what works and what doesn't for the people and consumer. steve was in and out of apple because of brutal directness that sometimes the board did not like, but he was right, and they were usually wrong, when it came to style and engineering.
tim cook's team is probably just using the B team on the latest ios just like microsoft did and does; skip OS releases. move the A team to the next OS, and give the B team the current... oh, the C team we just pay just in case, those are the test developers... occasionally they come up with a good idea..a set of tools..
enjoy.
"... either the CEO makes bad choices, or he is unable to manage his staff."
This recent Slashdot discussion lists other indications of insufficient management at Apple: Should Apple find another CEO? One of the comments: More about recent management of Apple
Those are not bugs, they are complaints. Bugs have a testcase. Take your angry energy and spend it on writing up a reproducible testcase, and I'm sure Apple will fix it for you.
"But I shouldn't have to!"
But you do. Because ultimately it's probably caused by some third-party keyboard that got installed without your knowledge by some app that you kid downloaded when you weren't looking.
Help Apple help you.
"Hard to make ends meet with just $250 billion in the bank."
Is this a time for charity? Should each of us send Apple a dollar?
No, people love Apple. And I'm being serious.
OK, yes some people hate Apple, but in general Apple users fall into the "I Love Apple" camp. And that's Apple's problem these days. Those I Love Apple users are feeling a bit betrayed.
Used to be, you could justify the Apple Premium (and I say that as someone who has never owned or used an Apple device, except for maybe 5 minute demos). Apple produced slick, integrated systems. They would only have one answer for every problem or need, but you could be sure that one answer was a pretty damn good answer. It might not fit everyone but at least it was well designed and competently implemented.
Now. There are significant Apple apps/applications that are just not good. Multiple lines of Apple hardware simply aren't as modern or capable as their competitors (sometimes it is only specific features, but still). iOS 11 is buggy. A certain lack of user choice wasn't a serious problem when Apple was regularly delivering "the best", but now Apple frequently isn't "the best".
Apple users are used to paying top dollar to get the best, the sexiest, the stunning. Apple managed to elevate themselves as a brand to something like Louis Vuitton, or Michael Kors, or Prada. Now they don't regularly reach those heights.
The result? Apple users feel betrayed. Maybe owning Apple is a sign of getting ripped off rather than being noble and discriminating. Apple may not be a guaranteed sign of having "arrived". The anger from Apple users is a sign their self-image is under threat.
Dude mine wont charge while on. Tells me "This device is not supported" and wont let it charge. Tried new cables, power sources, cleaning the port, updating the software. It's definitely a software bug because if I turn the phone off it charges fine. Such bullshit, about to switch to android, at least there would be some more things I could try to fix the issue.
Operating system developers have a long history of making drastic changes that replace stability with bullshit. The fact that we're still seeing them rewrite iOS for every release is an outright shit show.
The true iSheep will put up with anything.
On the newest version of chrome, Version 62.0.3202.94 (Official Build) (64-bit), if you scroll down on that page to the video section the browser window goes blank, just a white screen... lol
Umm so that OSX 11 I've been using just fine since release day is buggy as hell?
Yeah sure, if ya say so.
Me things some amount of artificial drama is involved for the purposes of creating headlines.
Operation system has bugs! BUGS! Film at 11. Please click on our ads.
I've been having almost all these same issues too.... how could they not known about these before they released????
better question is why can't they fix their silly messaging app. these are basic things.
If the worker slaves are getting burnt out.
11.0 was buggy. 11.1 fixed most of it. Iâ(TM)m on 11.2 beta and itâ(TM)s much improved.
People griped the same about 9.0 and 10.0. This isnâ(TM)t much different
If I recall, the earliest release of version 3 of the Macintosh Operating System back in the mid-1980s was so buggy it put your data at risk.
If memory serves, it was common knowledge to NOT use the earliest release of version 3.0 unless you absolutely had to have it to make Apple's new external hard disk work.
History buffs are invited to read
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hierarchical_File_System&oldid=808536753
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Macintosh_File_System&oldid=799801356
and their references for more details.
... oh wait.
Maybe Scott had a legitimate reason not to sign the letter.
Check out t him him him him users like me have abandoned Apple email on the iPhone:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/32574857?ac_cid=tw123456#32574857
And fuck these guys in the goat ass for tricking users into auto upgrading via an unlock screen. For those of you that don't know, you may get prompted to auto upgrade via a lock screen immediately after being prompted by prompt to upgrade and stating "Later" -- not realizing that there is a "Remind Me Later" at the bottom of the lock screen. If they're going to trick people into upgrading, the least they could do is provide a stable platform and not screw people over. Additionally, to trick iPhone 6 users into upgrading and then rendering their phone basically useless is monumentally shitty, not to mention an abuse of power on a mass scale.
I don't know how many times people have to keep bashing their heads against this nonsense from ANY vendor and NOT GET IT. No vendor of *commercial* or *consumer grade* software is going to ship a major new release without bugs. Even developers that are held to higher standards, e.g. software systems that could affect human life (think aircraft control systems and so on) also release bugs despite extensive test plans, external audits, high CMM levels and every other relevant quality checking standard and best practice that money can buy. It also extends into other systems, as well, from automobiles to a new Zamboni. Significant redesign means things are hopefully improved, but also open the door for new problems to crop up. You don't want to encounter these problems? Don't run out and buy the latest and greatest $new_shiny_thing when it comes out. Wait a little bit and let the bugs be found and fixed. You want the $new_shiny_thing so bad it hurts? Well, be ready to find a few problems that slipped out.
iPhone 7, zero problems, always do a full reboot of the phone after any major update. It's not easy to do on iPhone 7, you need to hold the Lock and Volume Down buttons for 10+ seconds until the phone completely turns off, then hold the Lock button for 5+ seconds to turn it back on. Cold boot takes 1-2 minutes.
Sadly Apple who has basically committed all resources now to IOS even rolling in Mac OS team into IOS group is struggling to put out a stable release. Even after months of beta testing Apple still has to cobble together fixes to even make their products works marginally. I have been lucky with my SE being pretty stable or at least usable. But many I talk to with iPhone 6 or newer are really having some significant issues unresolved so far. I know Apple people use iPhone's I cannot believe nobody at Apple has problems with their devices. This is a company that once pride itself on perfection and its really not close these days.
I have an iPhone 7 and I upgrade to iOS 11 the next day of release. I have made all the upgrades except for the last one (lack of time), but since then I don't have problems. Maybe it is buggy in other phones? What's yours and your experience?
I have a small music app that seems to break virtually every even fairly minor release. The call to select a song in a play list (just assigning into the nowPlayingItem) requires the player to be in a particular state (playing, stopped, or paused), and when it is in another state, the assignment has no effect. And the specific required state seems to vary from release to release. And in some releases, the player has to have been in the state for some period of time before the assignment works.
This same crap also affects the API call that specifies how far into a song the MPMusicPlayer should play.
The MPMusicPlayer is a separate process, and it seems that interprocess synchronization is beyond Apple's programmer's abilities.
Also, in iOS 11, I've noticed that the badge in the App Store goes on, but there are no updates visible until I kill off the App Store with a swipe up.
And iOS 11's interaction with my car stereo has gotten worse. When my music app uses the AV player, a lot of the time, the phone starts up the MP player again.
Apple of course never even replies to bug reports, even those submitted by registered developers. Their arrogance is comparable to MSFT's in the 1990s.
Oddly, the summary gives a link to a two-month old critique of the fonts and style, but fails to link to the actual story being summarized.
It's here: https://gizmodo.com/ios-11-is-...
http://www.geoffreylandis.com
I mean Snow Leopard? Couldn't be an ordinary leopard, could it? With its yellow and black pigmentation that would be tantamount to admitting the actual true scientifically proven historical FACT that the Chinese and Africans invented computing as we know it and Babbage, Dickens and Mozart stole it literally at gunpoint.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
The comment list is at 161..
with that said, atleast 50% of these comments are mostlikely negative. So can 80.5 voices be wrong????
Hmm I think naught..
Apple people need to revaluate them selves or religate to jobs that only require perception (true or not) and not necessarily technical ability. As is shows in the current product offering..
Places I can think of, Sony Playstation, Magic leap, EA sports,and companies located in the "presidio" Section of San Francisco. I am sure They will all cater and relate to this flawed mode of thinking to just further promote their agenda, remember its all about perception forget actual functionality. Why should we give the masses something tangible, if We can just sell them on an idea that was developed during a lunchtime conversation, with little substance to back it up..
thanks to msmash and her (********** [retracted])stellar thinking process for the click-bait material.. Hope your Stats inflate at the expense of accuracy.
best wishes..
"I'm using iOS 11 right now, and it makes me want to stab my eyes with a steel wire brush until I get face jam."
A statement like that makes me wonder about the writer's sanity and qualifications. Perhaps he is the problem.
Our family has iOS11 on one device, being cautious of new upgrades, and so far no problems but we're probably just not pushing the wire brush far enough into our orifices.
Not always see â-that pie was the shit!â(TM)
Means itâ(TM)s good.
a company that has built a reputation for flawless software
Oh come on. Nobody remembers Macos? The Macintosh bomb? Pretty much anything developed by Apple in-house? Flawless software... don't make me chuck my cookies. Reputation, yes, a reputation built by pure spin and outright lying. Flawless and Apple do not belong in the same sentence.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
I switched over from Samsung over 2 years ago because I was sick of how buggy everything was on my carriers version of android OS. It wasnt the stock android, and I didnâ(TM)t want to pay out of pocket for the google phone at the time, so I moved over to Apple.
The reasoning was that the apps would be more tightly controlled and prevent the lagging and bug issues I was having. None of my friends with iPhones at the time had the same issues I did with my S5.
The last two years, yes there were some bugs, but none that affected the key things I use my phone for: making calls, receiving/sending texts, receiving/sending emails, and web browsing. That was pretty flawless, which is key for how much I travel.
Now Iâ(TM)m on 3 week work trip: the alarm isnâ(TM)t working and I had 2 days of late starts. I thought I slept through the 4 alarms I have set up. But turns out the alarm doesnâ(TM)t sound. Also, everything is laggy when switching between apps, getting pages to load, selections not registering, gestures not working properly, every time I go in and out of airplane mode - all my notifications go beserk (anything i havenâ(TM)t read, but removed the notification on, pops up again and it takes a few minutes to do this - these are not new notifications, thing like calendar invites , texts, emails even) and the stock keyboard doesnâ(TM)t want to cooperate. Iâ(TM)ve wanted to hurl my phone against a wall multiple times each day. The only other time Iâ(TM)ve felt this way was with my previous Samsung devices. This has not been my normal iOS experience until this release.
Being in the industry with a product that has software, it makes me wonder what the Apple beta test process is like. Most of these things should have been caught, unless they relied on public beta testers to provide the details.
I wanted to see what the next iOS was about, so i signed up to be a beta tester. The beta tester feedback app didnâ(TM)t work consistently. So I wonder if a lot of these issues were reported, but never made it to Apple because they didnâ(TM)t get the feedback app to work.
Ugh. Idk. Iâ(TM)m thinking I might go back to Samsung or get the new pixel. Yes it might be buggy, at least you can customize you environment. Iâ(TM)m torn because Iâ(TM)m hoping it will get better...but will it? Itâ(TM)s been 2 months...and my device that has beta on it isnâ(TM)t faring much better.