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Turkeys Are Twice as Big as They Were in 1960 (theatlantic.com)
Alexis Madrigal, writing for The Atlantic: A turkey today is not the turkey of yesteryear. For decades, animal breeders have been transforming the genomes of turkeys to make them grow larger. Since 1960, the weight of turkeys has gone up about a quarter of a pound each year. The average weight of a turkey has gone from 15.1 pounds in 1960 to 31.1 pounds in 2017. And most of that change has been genetic. In one study of a representative strain of turkeys, poultry researchers fed the same diet to turkeys from 2003 and to a control group of turkeys that were representative of that strain's genetic pool from 1966. On average, the 2003 females grew to 33 pounds. Their 1966 cousins only got to 16.3 pounds.
twice as heavy as 1960, thought this was article about obese americans
The phrase "transforming the genome," although accurate, may be a little misleading to the non-science public. What this means is "selective breeding," not "genetic engineering."
It is interesting to compare farm-bred turkeys to the wild ones. We do get wild turkeys in our backyard-- they are quite impressive birds, not at all similar to the big-but-dumb coop-raised turkeys.
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Have you tried brining it and not over-cooking?
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10% of U.S. adults were classified as obese during the 1950s. In 2011 to 2012, however, the CDC reported approximately 35%. Source: https://www.livestrong.com/art...
since I've always hated the stuff, but modern fruit is just awful. Oranges especially. They grow to the size of grapefruits and as a result the tree can't get enough sugar or flavor to them. They taste like balls of fiber and wax. I stopped buying them. I can by the various breed of tangerines I guess but it's just not the same. I miss real oranges.
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Ya and we could literally feed dozens of people with the money each crack addict spends on crack daily. We could also feed dozens with the money spent on free needles at safe injection sites daily. We could feed millions with the money that's given out in welfare and ends up getting spent on booze, cigarettes, and lotto tickets. So excuse me if I don't particularly care that there are millions of citizens still going hungry. You've been using them as an excuse to take more and more from the hard working citizens that are doing their best to improve their own lives for a half century, and you never get any closer to solving the problem of poverty.
Just in case you're wondering why after cooking your meat has about 10% of its original size, feast your eyes on this.
In other words, how big is your turkey after roasting for a few hours? Is it still bigger? Or did it "sweat"?
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While I can only base this on my experience, it seems that the larger the turkey the weaker the flavor seems to be. I wonder if much like fruit, the turkey has been bred only for size and the flavor has been ignored. Sure you get 30+ pounds of turkey, but it might as well be tofu for all the flavor it has. Maybe that's why they're all injected with 'flavor enhancers'. The turkeys we get from the local farmer around here are smaller (15-20 pounds on average) but they taste so much better. We did a side by side comparison one year and couldn't believe the difference. Of course you pay for that flavor, but for once a year it's well worth it.
I tried smoking a turkey, but I couldn't keep it lit.
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Think of it as evolution in action.
> How many people you think we could feed for the half a trillion dollars we've spent on the F-35?
Are you suggesting we take money from the welfare program and funnel it into some sort of welfare program?
Have you tried brining it and not over-cooking?
As far as I can tell, almost every turkey sold in supermarkets has already been injected with brine by the manufacturer (at least I've never found wan that wasn't).
So unless you go out of your way to find some kind of "authentic" turkey, more brining would just be salty mushy overkill.
Same thing with chicken. For a long time during my 30's I had the impression that chicken didn't taste like it used to, but I dismissed it as the 'good old days' syndrome. Then I visited a town on the savannas in Guyana and ate free-range chickens that didn't look as though they'd been cross-bred with beach balls. Wings, legs, and breasts were much smaller than I'd grown used to, but they tasted wonderful - just like I remember chicken tasting in my early years.
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Your statement stands on its own just fine. Nothing to refute.
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How large an animal is at slaughter has little to do with how large the animal can get and more to do with how large the producer selects the animal to meet the customer demand.
I raise pigs on pasture. A full grown pig is 900 to 1,800 lbs. I do not sell my hogs at full size. Rather I raise them to a weight that fits my customers needs.
For standard whole pig family orders that is about 250 lbs live weight.
For roaster pigs it varies from as little as about 20 lbs to 300 lbs with the typical oven roaster being about 30 to 40 lbs and the typical spit roaster being about 80 lbs.
For whole market pigs that I cut to deliver to stores and restaurants the size is more like 300 to 400 lbs.
Back to turkeys, when you raise them you can harvest them at 20 lbs, 30 lbs, 40 lbs or what ever size you like to fit you or your customer's needs.
Yes, we have been doing selective breeding for millennia to improve how feed efficient animals are, muscling, etc, but the selection of size has more do do with market demand and is done simply by raising the animal and harvesting it at the desired size.
If you would like a 1,000 lb pig just let me know. Realize they cost a lot more than the standard 250 lb pigs as they take a lot longer to get to that size and thus a lot more feed too.
Incorrect. Turkey is the best, most flavorful, most nutritious meat available, if it's done correctly. This applies to wild turkeys and not farm raised turkeys. The best way to cook a turkey is to deep fry it. The USA was once thick with wild turkeys, but now they are mostly dead. Fun fact: I once almost hit a turkey with my car on Thanksgiving.
Not from the US, so we only get imported turkeys here, but I really can't imagine any turkey being as tasty as goose. There's certainly more meat on them, but for flavour you can't beat goose.
Ok...so,what exactly are you saying?
Are you saying because some in the world aren't as fortunate as me, that I should forever deny myself a few worldly pleasures, such as cooking and eating a nice meal with my family?
I think it is likely that he thinks that the money you spend on preparing a nice meal for your family simply disappears into the ether, rather than being recycled into the economy and stimulating further economic activity, and that therefore any minor luxuries enjoyed by anyone other than himself are a frivolous waste of resources.