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Bipartisan US Election Group Issues Security Tips (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader quotes Reuters: A bipartisan Harvard University project aimed at protecting elections from hacking and propaganda will release its first set of recommendations today on how U.S. elections can be defended from hacking attacks. The 27-page guidebook calls for campaign leaders to emphasize security from the start and insist on practices such as two-factor authentication for access to email and documents and fully encrypted messaging via services including Signal and Wickr. The guidelines are intended to reduce risks in low-budget local races as well as the high-stakes Congressional midterm contests next year.

Though most of the suggestions cost little or nothing to implement and will strike security professionals as common sense, notorious attacks including the leak of the emails of Hillary Clinton's campaign chair, John Podesta, have succeeded because basic security practices were not followed... "We heard from campaigns that there is nothing like this that exists," said Debora Plunkett, a 31-year veteran of the National Security Agency who joined the Belfer Center this year. "We had security experts who understood security and election experts who understood campaigns, and both sides were eager to learn how the other part worked."

The group includes "top security experts" from both Google and Facebook.

103 comments

  1. Just the tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    of my DAMN balls, for u to suck on

    1. Re:Just the tip by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      You and your transparent attempts at reverse-trolling can fuck right off.

      (And Melania is from Slovenia, not Russia.)

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    2. Re: Just the tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea shit's getting old. Atleast change the content. The russian shit is played out like "what you talkin bout Willis'?"

  2. "notorious attack" - LMAO at that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    notorious attacks including the leak of the emails of Hillary Clinton's campaign chair, John Podesta

    Someone who wants to be one of the most powerful persons in the world falling for a simple phishing attempt is now a "notorious attack".

    If someone on your company network did that, you'd call him a foolish idiot and take away his computer.

    1. Re:"notorious attack" - LMAO at that by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      *And* you'd go after the criminals that did it.

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    2. Re:"notorious attack" - LMAO at that by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      To fix the election you need to fix the election system.

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    3. Re:"notorious attack" - LMAO at that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *And* you'd go after the criminals that did it.

      Nah, you'd blame it on a bunch of Russians.

    4. Re:"notorious attack" - LMAO at that by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      He's dead, so done.

      You approve of assassinating whistle blowers? Think fixing the primary was 'just fine'?

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    5. Re:"notorious attack" - LMAO at that by Rockoon · · Score: 0

      *And* you'd go after the criminals that did it.

      They did. They shot him dead.

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    6. Re:"notorious attack" - LMAO at that by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      If you think Fancy Bear is dead, you apparently are aware of something US intelligence agencies aren't. .And if you think they're whistle blowers, you're an idiot.

      What I suspect, however, is that you're subscribing to the ludicrous and debunked conspiracy theory pushed, and then withdrawn, by Fox News, blaming a Clinton staffer, despite the fact there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever pointing at him.

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    7. Re:"notorious attack" - LMAO at that by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Just ignore what the conduit for the information said...it disagrees with your chosen narrative.

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    8. Re:"notorious attack" - LMAO at that by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      Donna Brazile is claiming that after the murder of Seth Rich she was so afraid of assassins that she kept her blinds closed. That seems like a strange reaction to a random mugging gone wrong. Hmmm...So you're one of those weirdo coincidence theorists, huh?ï

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    9. Re:"notorious attack" - LMAO at that by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      I look at this story and see only one thing, a corrupt bipartisan effort to digitally corrupt upcoming elections behind the lies of securing it and surprise, surprise with the help of killing net neutrality, the 99% are all trolls to be censored and full of nothing but lies and propaganda and the 1% are descended from Gods and are to be believed in everything they say. They are still carrying on with this shit with zero public evidence, they are corrupt and fucking lying and about to try to get a whole lot more corrupt.

      After over a year, still no evidence publicly provided apart from all the evidence of corruption with the US government, the Democrats and the Republicans, evidence all over the place and the proof of corruption, the continued failure to prosecute. So bipartisan, well that is a typical description of US politics to right parties sharing power and as for Harvard http://lesswrong.com/lw/jwh/wh... and https://www.glassdoor.com/Revi... and https://www.therichest.com/ric.... Yes 'Hardvard' a paragon of virtue, integrity and honesty, fuck you people will believe any dribble the 1% serve (this crap absolutely stinks to high heaven of corruption).

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  3. Another Tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trumpâ(TM)s a bitch. If you voted for him youâ(TM)re a fucking nimrod. Weâ(TM)ve never had such an unqualified douche in office. If you voted for him, congrats, youâ(TM)re whatâ(TM)s wrong with America. Donâ(TM)t feel too bad douchebags, Clinton supporters are only slightly less douchey so you are not alone.

    1. Re:Another Tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stock market baby, stock market. Unemployment rate baby.

    2. Re:Another Tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      youâ(TM)re also a fucking nimrod

      learn to use regular apostrophes on slashdot, nimrod

    3. Re:Another Tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whenever you see that Ã(TM) stuff it means someone is copying and pasting.

    4. Re:Another Tip by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      No, it's IOS 'smart punctuation' unicode.

      Think of it as a single earring on the right side.

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    5. Re:Another Tip by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      They're Bajorans?

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    6. Re:Another Tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Either that or they prefer to be on the bottom. Given that they're iPhone users, I'm guessing it's the latter.

    7. Re:Another Tip by psycho12345 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Funny. When Obama is in office "Stock Market is a fraud" "Unemployment numbers are a lie"

      When Trump gets elected "Stock market baby" "Unemployment record low".

      People think "Trump is doing well, market hit a new high of 23k". But no one said anything when it hit 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 under Obama...

    8. Re:Another Tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But no one said anything when it hit 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 under Obama...

      Maybe because the Dow didn't hit 20k until after Obama left office? Not that I'm a fan of the stock market, its nothing without the Federal Reserve printing trillions out of thin air.

  4. Who needs hacking and propganda? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Between the meandering redistricting and Fox News - that goes out of its way to misinform their viewers - who needs foreign hacking?

    And an electorate that refuses to actually learn the issues but instead listens to only what it wants to hear, we are just headed towards an "Idiocracy".

    The election of a reality TV show host is the start. Trump just shows how stupid we've become as a society.

    Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho is coming.

    1. Re:Who needs hacking and propganda? by HangingChad · · Score: 0

      Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho is coming.

      I would vote for him over Trump. Ironically, we'd still have a more qualified president.

      Now hand me a beer...and get yourself one. Woooo!!!!

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    2. Re:Who needs hacking and propganda? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Media shows why it's so mistrusted after falsified Trump fish-feeding 'story'. Here are several credible mainstream media outlets and Jezebel reporting the story.

      Bloomberg's White House reporter: Trump and Abe spooning fish food into a pond. (Toward the end, @potus decided to just dump the whole box in for the fish)

      New York Magazine: Trump Under Fire for Improper Fish-Feeding Technique

      Jezebel: Big stupid baby dumps a load of fish food on Japanese koi pond http://bit.ly/2zAyCD6

      CNBC's Christina Wilkie (in a now-deleted tweet): "Trump and Japanese PM Shinzo Abe were scheduled to feed koi spoonfuls of food. Until Trump poured his entire box of fish food into the pond."

      New York Daily News: Photo of Donald Trump dumping fish food into koi pond during Japan visit draws Obama comparisons

      The Guardian: "White House reporters, keen perhaps to pick up on a Trump gaffe, captured the moment when he upended his box on their smartphones and tweeted evidence of his questionable grasp of fish keeping. Some speculated that a poor palace employee would be dispatched to the scene to clean up the mess as soon as the two leaders disappeared inside."

      CNN: Trump feeds fish, winds up pouring entire box of food into koi pond

      The media was not only blatantly overt, but intentional in its deception. The greatest danger to our nation comes from a free press that chooses sides in the political process. And that has openly and unapologetically taken place.

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    3. Re:Who needs hacking and propganda? by Picodon · · Score: 2

      It’s not just the gross distortion. It’s also the choice of topic. Even if Trump had, in fact, blundered, focussing a news article on that entirely unimportant instant of the visit is quite revealing about the state of the press in this country.

      Not that it’s the first time, of course. I will never forget the 1992 press conference in Japan, shortly after Bush (H.W.) fell sick during dinner. It was eerie to watch American and Japanese journalists taking turns, asking questions:
        10 Japanese journalist to the Japanese prime minister, about international relations, defense, trade, etc.;
        20 American journalist to Bush: about vomiting at dinner, how did that feel exactly?
        30 GOTO 10

      The American press focussed entirely on the dinner incident and on a few purely domestic issues (as if it was a press conference on home turf); I don’t remember it asking a single question related to Japan or the visit. It was humiliating to watch how low the American press had fallen (especially there, next to Japanese journalists asking intelligent and relevant questions). But the American press has decided that entertaining people is the most important (and lucrative) thing to do, so that’s all we get. To regain its usefulness and relevance, the press needs not only to be truthful but also to serve the public (rather than advertisers) by giving proper treatment to serious topics (including international topics that may be unfamiliar to people here). And reporting on anecdotes, no matter how poignant or striking, does not qualify as proper treatment.

    4. Re:Who needs hacking and propganda? by cmseagle · · Score: 1

      Right wing media - *chooses to ignore/misrepresent attempts by foreign powers to influence American elections, possibly colluding with associates of the candidate in said election*

      Left wing media - *misrepresents a story about feeding fish, making the president look silly*

      Slashdot: "Left wing media is a threat to democracy!!"

    5. Re:Who needs hacking and propganda? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you get stuck on the summary or the article, because I got stuck in the headline.

      Bipartisan in modern US? So they only want to kill half of the brown people? Or have they agreed on just maiming them?

    6. Re:Who needs hacking and propganda? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't get caught in a lie? If the anti-Trump media are willing to twist the truth over trivial things, can we really trust it over major things?

      I was "caught" in a "lie" once, and lost a job over presenting a document in an unorthodox format. Because I could have benefited from the incorrect format, and I could have misunderstood other conventions (who knows, right?), I was made to pay the consequence. Nobody cared that there was obviously no intention to mislead, that I took much more care about important things, or that many others did the formatting misstep the same way.

      Why should the media, on either side, be held to lower standards than you and I are held to every day?

    7. Re:Who needs hacking and propganda? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Media deliberately lying in order to serve a political point of view is indeed a threat to democracy. Our entire system depends on the media to report, not take sides. It is devastating that the media is on the Democrat side and against the side of the people. It's far more of a threat than blaming the dirty foreigners for all our troubles.

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  5. Bipartisan vs Google and Facebook by RedK · · Score: 2

    So which was it ? Because it seems to be a DNC thing to me. Which makes sense considering the DNC internal leak and Podesta phishing, wouldn't want your voters to know you're colluding with CNN for debate questions and rigging your primary.

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    1. Re:Bipartisan vs Google and Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better CNN than RT or TASS, borshchtforbrains.

    2. Re:Bipartisan vs Google and Facebook by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      False dichotomy. She lost. Enough of her dirt got out. Get over it.

      CNN will never fully recover. Credibility is very slow to come back. They aren't even trying yet, more like doubling down. CNN is with MSNBC now, the stink won't wash off.

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    3. Re: Bipartisan vs Google and Facebook by sergio7653 · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows the questions. Aren't the questions obvious at any given time?

    4. Re: Bipartisan vs Google and Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think the Republican party doesn't pick favorites and manipulate debate appearances in their primaries? Wherever you are reading about politics seems to have MASSIVE gaps in their coverage. Read more, read different.

    5. Re: Bipartisan vs Google and Facebook by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, the questions are not revealed to the candidates ahead of time. Unless you're Donna Brazile, and you leak the questions to Hillary Clinton and let her prepare answers ahead of time, while forcing Donald Trump to think on his feet. Hey, that's totally OK to do in a democracy that prides itself on fair debates.

      The organization that fervently opposes checking ID to vote in elections did just that during its election for party chairman.

      "We have to make sure that we can not just count the ballots but verify every name and signature," Brazile said as party members began applauding.

      Donna Brazile said after Seth Rich was killed, she kept the blinds down to protect from snipers, possibly Russian. LOL. The Russians break every rule of engagement to start a possible WWIII with us to kill a man who...according to the DNC, didn't leak any emails.

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    6. Re: Bipartisan vs Google and Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How's that Faux news coverage going lately?

    7. Re:Bipartisan vs Google and Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      CNN will never fully recover. Credibility is very slow to come back. They aren't even trying yet, more like doubling down. CNN is with MSNBC now, the stink won't wash off.

      Or you can be like Sean Hannity and not have any in the first place, so there's nothing to lose. :)

  6. People were hacked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fake stories and trolls fooled the American sheeple. You can't patch stupid.

  7. Who protect murdered DNC employees like Seth Rich? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who is going to protect murdered DNC employees like Seth Rich when the leak ibformation that Hillary and the DNC are committing election fraud and financing fraud in the primaries?

  8. How about voter ID? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems like it should be #1 to protect elections.

    1. Re:How about voter ID? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Seems like it should be #1 to protect elections.

      Non-whites can't be expected to be able to get an ID, you RAAACIST prick!

      Heaven forbid the US should actually follow the UN's standard for free and fair elections:

      4. The Rights and Responsibilities of States

      ...

            Ensure the integrity of the ballot through appropriate measures to prevent multiple voting or voting by those not entitled thereto;

      ...

    2. Re:How about voter ID? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 2

      No, because stuffing meatbags into polling booths is the least effective, most costly and the most easily detected form of electoral fraud. Might as well be defending democracy from unicorns.

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    3. Re:How about voter ID? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Non-whites can't be expected to be able to get an ID, you RAAACIST prick!

      You're the one who is arguing that it's their fault for not getting an ID, the rest of us are pointing out how you closed the DMVs andlied to them.

      I get it though, you know you can't win by honestly admitting your problem.

      Heaven forbid the US should actually follow the UN's standard for free and fair elections

      The US's problem has been fair and open elections, where they didn't have hurdles put in front of voters that were disenfranchised.

    4. Re:How about voter ID? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is even IF it gets detected, nothing happens. The election is already over. The result stands. Nobody wants to look too closely at non-citizen or dead voters, least of all the party that benefits the most.

    5. Re:How about voter ID? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus, without ID you can't prove who or how many voted fraudulently in the first place. You can only speculate. So even if you know something illegitimate went on, you can't do anything about it due to the lack of evidence.

    6. Re:How about voter ID? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Hey dumb shit, what you are wanting is VOTER ROLLS, not voter ID. If you want, i can explain the math, or you can keep your /. card by understanding that the chances of getting caught increases exponentially as more and more fraudulent votes are cast.

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    7. Re:How about voter ID? by guruevi · · Score: 2

      They closed the entire DMV for several years in order to prevent people from acquiring an ID? The freaking blog you pointed to is a lie, there are a lot of other things going on into making those decisions, you can get an ID at the post office, from the DMV through the mail or online. You need an ID to buy booze, medicine and cigarettes, you're saying no black person buys booze, medicine or cigarettes?

      If you close 31 DMV offices you do not "save only $100,000" ... argh, there is just so much wrong with this that it's not even worth pointing out. If it isn't obvious that this is partisan bullshit grasping at straws to make a point then you're dumber than you realize..

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    8. Re:How about voter ID? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They closed the entire DMV for several years in order to prevent people from acquiring an ID?

      No, they focused heavily on the offices that minorities could conveniently use, which was kinda revealing.

      The freaking blog you pointed to is a lie,

      Identify one falsehood in it. Go ahead.

      there are a lot of other things going on into making those decisions, you can get an ID at the post office, from the DMV through the mail or online.

      Yes, racists are practiced at finding excuses for their behavior, literacy tests and poll taxes were usually defended under those same terms. Including you know, misinforming the public about the situation.

      But hey, if you want the state to mail out ID to everybody, go ahead and propose it.

      You need an ID to buy booze, medicine and cigarettes, you're saying no black person buys booze, medicine or cigarettes?

      Actually, I've found that sales clerks will rarely bother me about booze or cigarettes even if they are supposed to get ID, but I understand some people do have complaints about that process, medicine is somewhat different, but then, there are problems with pharmacists denying people's prescriptions. And don't even get my mother started on the way they hassled her about her diabetic testing strips refill, then tried to bill her after they FAILED to give her the number of strips she needed the first time when she asked for more. She gets quite irate at them.

      If you close 31 DMV offices you do not "save only $100,000" ... argh, there is just so much wrong with this that it's not even worth pointing out. If it isn't obvious that this is partisan bullshit grasping at straws to make a point then you're dumber than you realize..

      Sure man, you come right after an accusation that relied on false counter cries of racism and bigotry to ignore actual racism and bigotry, and you think it's other people who are full of partisan bullshit.

      Sorry man, there's a reason it keeps being revealed.

      And it gets worse as apparently it was Bentley's paramour behind it.

      Crickets, eh? Interesting sound they make.

    9. Re:How about voter ID? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey dumb shit,

      What a well thought out argument.

      Voter rolls are worthless if anyone can get on them without reliable ID.

  9. Paper by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    Look at how Canadian elections are handled. You can't hack paper ballots via viruses or computer networks.

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    1. Re:Paper by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Oh, pff. The PRI in Mexico rigged elections for 80 years using nothing but paper ballots.

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    2. Re:Paper by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      This isn't about how to secure the voting machines. Perhaps you should read the summary at least?

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    3. Re:Paper by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      We all agreed years ago that reading the article was too much work. And now you're telling me we can't post anything without reading the summary?

      I didn't sign up for this!

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  10. Identification by jrmcferren · · Score: 1

    If they don't recommend photo ID for voters the whole thing is worthless. There is voter fraud on both sides of the political spectrum and the arguments against voter ID are actually quite racist.

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    1. Re:Identification by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Voter fraud doesn't exist and has never existed in the way described. Stuffing meatbags into polling booths is the least effective, most costly and the most easily detected form of electoral fraud. Might as well be defending democracy from unicorns.

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    2. Re:Identification by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Informative
      The Democrats have a long history of doing precisely that.

      "We loaded up all 13 of our buses with maybe 70 people on each bus, and we had those buses rolling nonstop up and down the coast into San Francisco the day before the election," recalled Jim Jones Jr. "We had people going from precinct to precinct to vote. So could we have been the force that tipped the election to Moscone? Absolutely! Slam dunk. He only won by 4,000 votes. I'm sorry, but I've got to give my father credit for that. I think he did the right thing. George Moscone was a good person; he wanted what was best for San Francisco."

      Yes, that Jim Jones. Of Jonestown. The one we got the phrase "drink the Kool-aid" from (even though it was actually Fla-Vor-Aid). Full confession viewable at: http://www.salon.com/2012/05/0...

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    3. Re:Identification by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Throw the baby out with the bathwater much?

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    4. Re:Identification by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      And by long time, you mean one example that would be incredibly easy to spot and stop, had anyone in SF been sober/competent at the time? This plan would be thwarted by voter rolls long before voter ID would have been needed.

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    5. Re:Identification by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Voter rolls are setup to make it easy to identify registered voters that haven't voted in multiple elections.

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    6. Re:Identification by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure exactly what your point is. Do you care to clarify what you mean?

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    7. Re:Identification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Voter fraud doesn't exist and has never existed in the way described. Stuffing meatbags into polling booths is the least effective, most costly and the most easily detected form of electoral fraud. Might as well be defending democracy from unicorns.

      BULLSHIT

      Pure unadulterated mendacious BULLSHIT

      1,088 cases of provable voter fraud.

      And that wonderful supporter of women? Al Franken?

      Al Franken May Have Won His Senate Seat Through Voter Fraud

      When 1,099 felons vote in race won by 312 ballots

      Oh, yeah. "Mendacious" means you're a lying sack of shit.

    8. Re:Identification by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      'The plan' has not been thwarted by voter rolls. Now or anytime in the last 100 years. In fact, voter rolls are just lists of registered nonvoters to be used in 'the plan'.

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    9. Re: Identification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry but al franken did nothing wrong. Even huffington came out and defended him. It's a witch hunt going on right now. Weinstein and the republican candidate Moore opened up a can of worms.

    10. Re:Identification by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Okay, I think I could vaguely agree with you. But you haven't explained what that has to do with voter ID. If I control the polling place, voter ID will not stop me from committing electoral fraud.

      But voter rolls, properly administered and checked for duplicates (in an intelligent way, like with a hash of SSN+Name), could prevent voters from voting in multiple districts, which is the only type of meatbag fraud that has occurred in any significant fashion.

      Voter ID, btw, does nothing to prevent this. If John Doe votes 3 times in 3 districts he is registered to vote in, his ID will say he's John Doe in all of them. Voter impersonation is not a problem. Multiple votes could possibly be (although still inefficient), but Voter ID does nothing to combat them.

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    11. Re:Identification by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      You should try reading your own source, dipshit. "In the way described" is voter impersonation, and your own source puts that at a whopping 13 cases, mostly impersonating family members.

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  11. Pizza Pizza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Render unto Ceasers...

  12. More tips: by king+neckbeard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1. "Stop breaking the law, asshole!"
    2. Instant Runoff Voting
    3. Blockchains
    4. Purging instead of promoting the worst people within a party
    5. Hiring security professionals based on qualification, not on their connections to your bribery machines.

    But I suspect that none of these will be implemented because they aren't interested in secure elections, just holding power.

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  13. It's painfully obvious by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    that the security issues in our election system are intentional, so any 'tips' are really just pissing in the wind. Our elections are rigged, I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader on who and why. But ask yourself who's running our government and who as been for most of the last 30 years.

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  14. Public scans of campaign sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These guys have been scanning political sites and pointing out specific flaws too:
    www.cybertical.com

  15. Step 1: Voter ID by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Informative

    If those that demand no Voter Identification were concerned for the poor, they'd facilitate the acquisition of ID, not seek ways to avoid it. After all, what's the best job you ever had where you didn't need to identify yourself? I'm just confused how anyone buys beer or cold medicine without an ID. WTF?

    Only ONE party disapproves of measures to make our elections secure. Voter ID is NOT a function of America's "racist past" EVERY COUNTRY THAT'S not a dictatorship has some form of assuring that the person voting is entitled to. EVERY COUNTRY.

    California liberals allege voter fraud, demand voter ID. LOL. Democrats think voter identification laws are important for their party elections, but think they're not important when it comes to our elections.

    Maxine Waters, an advocate against voter ID, requires an ID to attend her town hall meeting.

    Hillary Clinton's Book Tour. Valid Photo ID Required. Wait, isn't this suppressing minority turnout? Why's it racist when we do it in our super-important elections, but Hillary does it for her book-signing and suddenly it's not racist? Someone want to take a stab at this one?

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    1. Re:Step 1: Voter ID by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Yes, there should be efforts on making IDs more accessible. But until that happens, Voter ID laws are light racist intimidation. And just for the record, Hillary Clinton should be shot into the sun, along with most of her cronies.

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    2. Re:Step 1: Voter ID by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      So what you're saying is the Democrats are racist because they require voter ID to vote in their elections. Huh?

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    3. Re: Step 1: Voter ID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "EVERY COUNTRY THAT'S not a dictatorship has some form of assuring that the person voting is entitled to. EVERY COUNTRY."

      Australia is not a dictatorship and the identity of voters is not checked. We do have compulsory voting amd you have to provide your current address when asked your name. Very few cases of the same person voting multiple times occur and each case is followed up by the electoral commission.

    4. Re:Step 1: Voter ID by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the Democrats as a party need to be shot into the sun. Same with the GOP.

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    5. Re:Step 1: Voter ID by doom · · Score: 2

      Only ONE party disapproves of measures to make our elections secure. Voter ID is NOT a function of America's "racist past"

      Every attempt at finding examples of the fraud that voter ID is supposed to prevent have come up empty. Question: why would someone push a fix for a non-existent problem? Answer: they've got a different agenda.

      The existing system in much of the US is you show up at the polls, tell 'em who you are, and sign off on the register. If you think about it for a minute, you can see how difficult it is to game this system wholesale-- if anyone signs off as someone else they've got to worry that someone else will show up later. And you can't get away with doing this multiple times in one place or the poll watchers will recognize your face. The old Chicago-style of busing people around from place to place is expensive and obvious and pretty much not happening.

      (My, that was a waste-of-breath, wasn't it?)

    6. Re:Step 1: Voter ID by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Look at all the other countries laughing their asses off at us. Quote:

      This, as a Spaniard it always amuses me how can people vote without an official ID and how try to enforce that is considered racist.

      Sorry guys if it sounds rude, but it makes your Election look as the election from some African cheap dictatorship. In here (Spain) you have to bring a national Country-provided ID, national driver's license or passport. All of them have a picture on them to easily figure out if you're that person or not.

      You wanna vote? Proof that you are a citizen with right to vote.

      Any other way sounds like bullshit to me.

      When you have millions of illegals who know they can go vote without repercussion, who know they are at increased risk of deportation under one candidate over another, and who know their access to government provided services are liable to be limited under one candidate, of course some number will vote.

      They broke the law to cross the border. They will not scruple at voting illegally.

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    7. Re:Step 1: Voter ID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All racists are Democrats.

    8. Re:Step 1: Voter ID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at all the other countries laughing their asses off at us.

      So? People laugh even when they're the fools.

      This, as a Spaniard it always amuses me how can people vote without an official ID and how try to enforce that is considered racist.

      So a Spaniard is uneducated as to the particulars of American bigotry and racism, as well as the political drive to keep IDs from people? This random, unknown, unidentified person is suppose to know better than any of the multiple federal court judges who have heard the testimony and seen the evidence in Texas, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Alabama, and more?

      Sorry guys if it sounds rude, but it makes your Election look as the election from some African cheap dictatorship.

      Yeah, an expensive African dictatorship would do a much better job of faking elections, but you know Republicans...cheap.

      In here (Spain) you have to bring a national Country-provided ID, national driver's license or passport. All of them have a picture on them to easily figure out if you're that person or not.

      Oh goodness, does he or she even know that the National Government of the United States only produces one of those(directly), and the latter is not used or useful to the vast majority of Americans who won't want to bother with the trouble and expense? Or does he or she even know about the court hearings that revealed how DMVs were impeding and misforming citizens who wanted IDs, including the free ones they were supposed to provide?

      You wanna vote? Proof that you are a citizen with right to vote.

      None of those documents provide any such thing. In fact....watch out.

      Any other way sounds like bullshit to me.

      That's nice, now what's it got to do with the actual problems people have with the Voter ID system as implemented?

      Oh wait, you still deny knowledge of it.

      When you have millions of illegals who know they can go vote without repercussion, who know they are at increased risk of deportation under one candidate over another, and who know their access to government provided services are liable to be limited under one candidate, of course some number will vote.

      Then you can find them, and identify them. And invalidate every single election, because if you believe millions voted, then you have a serious problem with your entire government. Throw everybody out, and reform things.

      They broke the law to cross the border. They will not scruple at voting illegally.

      Of course, we've identified some Trump voters who acted illegally.

      Odd that you're not calling for their prosecution. Where were their scruples?

      Hmm.

    9. Re:Step 1: Voter ID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what you're saying is the Democrats are racist because they require voter ID to vote in their elections. Huh?

      Which elections? The private Party member only ones? Those aren't state-sanctioned, unlike say, political primaries.

      But the Democratic Party isn't even in charge of issuing state ID, let alone accused of any particular effort to selectively restrict the ID availability or utility for its caucuses. Unlike the Republican Party. You'd have to make the same efforts to show evidence that has been presented before courts in North Carolina, Texas, Alabama, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and other states. It'll likely be a wasted effort even if you go to court though. Courts will be quite reluctant to intrude on such matters. See how they refused to rule in Tashjian v. Republican Party, 479 U.S. 208 (1986). Oh wait, you didn't know about that, did you?

      Now if you want to get rid of the two-party political systems that are sanctioned by the state, then you'll be pursuing a fruitful course. No more partisan state primaries!

      Sadly, you're not intelligent enough to do that either. You're just too mindlessly partisan yourself, so you pursue an ineffective strategy that only highlights your lack of integrity.

  16. Google and Facebook are part of the problem by schwit1 · · Score: 1

    Their political partisanship and profit motive should call into question any contributions they make.

  17. Mod parent FLAMEBAIT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Double reverse trolling? Nice try. Slovenia and Russia are indistinguishable.

  18. Top Experts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whenever someone says "Top Experts" I just want to hurl.

    Who crowned these folks? The reporter with his community college degree and understanding of the topic? Top Security Experts -- name them, what makes them top?

    Same goes for the Top Climate Scientists...really. Is there some sort of object rating system? Or is it simply the guy who talks to reporters the most or has the most citations in obscure, pay-to-publish journals?

    The only reason to say "top scientists" is for some lazy journalist to say "what I am reporting is worthwhile and accurate". It is far easier to say Top Scientists than to actually persuade the reader of the veracity and value of the article. What it really comes down to is lazy journalists.

    Rant complete for now!

  19. Easier Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just disallow the GOP from winning elections. After all, none of this was ANY concern before Trump was elected, in fact Obama had stated numerous times that the election couldn't be hacked, that it was fair, that voter id wouldn't help, there is absolutely nothing wrong with how votes happen, etc.

    This week we are being told that even if Judge Moore WINS his election in Alabama, he will not be seated as a Senator because the Senate does not allow sexual molesters to be members. He was never convicted nor admitted to it, however Franken is up to 4 admitted cases and not a word about him being a Senator.

    It seems the rules are just going to be written so GOP is not allowed to win no matter what. If the rules would prevent a DNC member, they will be ignored.

    Fuck you if you vote GOP, is the clear message I get from the DNC and DC in general these days.

    1. Re: Easier Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you been sleeping in aka cave for 30+ years? That's always been the message.

      If you vote Republican, the democrats say fuck you.
      If you vote democrat, the republicans say fuck you.

      This isn't new.

  20. Computers==insecure for elections by Tangential · · Score: 1

    As long as computers are involved in the tabulation or transmission of election results the concept of secure elections is laughable.

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  21. Political tips by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Someone who has not spoken down to and lectured large parts of the USA would be a good start.
    A person who can talk and keep talking to most average people in their state and all over the USA.
    Not have a political party machine that induces US campaign staff and party workers to walk out with lots of internal party documents and give them to the US media.

    Support charming, charismatic, honorable, ethical political leadership.
    The Amercian voting public will find out what their political leadership like to do and who they are during the election cycle.
    Dont run politicians with decades of complex issues and not expect the voting public to notice.
    Find a candidate who can actually give a long speech all over their state or federally.

    A political party that can not select good leadership internally and win a local election is not a sign of another skilled nation.
    Domestic incompetence and party arrogance is the "result" of that party and its failed politics.
    Have a better understanding of the US public and try to actually win an election.

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  22. Those recommendations seem rather generic and... by Picodon · · Score: 1

    A few things bother me in the recommendations (not to say that they are not sensible, just that the need for them annoys me):

      - Policy of email deletion, etc. I know I’m naïve (and perhaps unreasonable), but I feel that political campaigns should have nothing to hide. It would be more sensible (I feel) to train people to be fair, courteous, clear, unambiguous, etc., rather than training them to keep their dirty laundry secure or promptly eliminated. Even when they mention “the theft of donor data”, I feel queasy: certainly, they don’t want credit card information to be stolen, but why would they keep that in the first place? On the other hand, I am not convinced that donor identities and amounts paid ought to remain secret, especially those above a rather small amount.

      - Having a damage-control policy. Same issue. A political campaign should have such a crystal-clear (and truthful) message, inside-out, that no “damaging revelations” should be possible/credible.

      - Only trusting the cloud (i.e., only the pros can secure data, don’t try this at home): I imagine that this is a stark symptom of how unnecessarily difficult it is to properly set up (and maintain) server software. It really shouldn’t be, and fixing that problem should be a priority much higher than improving voice-controlled personal assistants or cloud-connected thermostats. Personal computing and the Internet were not intended to be a return to 1970s mainframes and I.T. rooms. I feel that the democratisation of information processing (free exchange, publishing, etc.) requires the ability to locally store, process and serve the data. Of course, having Google staff contribute to the paper may have had something to do with the recommendations...

    Besides, those recommendations hardly seem to be specific to political campaigns. They would probably apply just as well to any business (at least, small- to medium-size) or organisation. In that case, weren’t there good cybersecurity guidelines available already?

  23. Oh come on: "Use the cloud"? by doom · · Score: 2

    https://www.belfercenter.org/c...

    2. Use the cloud: A big, commercial cloud service will be much more secure than anything you can set up. Use a cloud-based office suite like GSuite or Microsoft365 that will provide all your basic office functions and a safe place to store information.

    That's completely ridiculous, short-sighted crap. We're all supposed to trust our entire voting system to a tiny handful of companies? "We're completely invulnerable to any sort of subversion, because Technology. Trust us!"

    1. Re:Oh come on: "Use the cloud"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crazy. I would never trust any of my personal e-mail to Google, Microsoft, or Apple. I run my own mail server out of my house. I don't understand the millennial attitude of handing control for everything to companies on the crazy left coast of the US.

    2. Re:Oh come on: "Use the cloud"? by swillden · · Score: 1

      https://www.belfercenter.org/c...

      2. Use the cloud: A big, commercial cloud service will be much more secure than anything you can set up. Use a cloud-based office suite like GSuite or Microsoft365 that will provide all your basic office functions and a safe place to store information.

      That's completely ridiculous, short-sighted crap. We're all supposed to trust our entire voting system to a tiny handful of companies?

      OTOH, said companies actually have a really good security track record, in spite of being among the most attractive targets on the planet. When was the last time someone compromised GMail?

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    3. Re:Oh come on: "Use the cloud"? by doom · · Score: 1

      When was the last time someone compromised GMail?

      You mean besides google?

      We don't know.

      But what the fuck, let's entrust the democratic process for the entire United States to google. What could go wrong?

    4. Re:Oh come on: "Use the cloud"? by swillden · · Score: 1

      When was the last time someone compromised GMail?

      You mean besides google?

      What does that even mean?

      We don't know.

      But what the fuck, let's entrust the democratic process for the entire United States to google. What could go wrong?

      Oversight would be easily arranged. The FTC already does regular reviews, per the requirements of the Buzz consent decree.

      And in any case the question isn't whether or not some company would be a perfect choice, it's whether it would be a better choice than what parties have been doing. And the answer is clearly that it would be better than what the DNC has been doing.

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    5. Re:Oh come on: "Use the cloud"? by doom · · Score: 1

      When you entrust your information to google, google gets to know about it. (Yeah, I know, encryption. Like anyone encrypts their gmail.) Google is not shy about using your information. Strictly for advertising purposes, you understand. At present. We hope.

      Further, anyone who has placed a plant inside of google-- or subverted someone already there-- has the potential to know about it.

  24. I don't get it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't get where all this "propaganda" nonsense is coming from. On election day I put on my Red MAGA hat and proudly voted for Donald Trump. I didn't need Putin's approval on the matter. It seems that one political faction of the US assumed the other must not exist because it was so at odds with their views.

    Sorry crazy leftists. This wasn't propaganda from Russia. This was a bunch of pissed off Americans who were tired of what Obama and his lefty loons have done to the place.

    I should mention that every single house in my entire neighborhood had Trump signs in the driveway. One guy a few streets over had Trump lights on his roof. There was one Hillary sign probably in a 2 mile radius. I should mention I live in a historically blue city.

    Propaganda? Really. Hmf.

  25. "Propaganda"? by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

    From "propaganda"? WTF does that mean, in this context?

    Foreign propaganda rather than domestic propaganda, I would assume. Maybe I'll RTFA to confirm/correct that.

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  26. But.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    emphasize security from the start and insist on practices such as two-factor authentication for access to email and documents and fully encrypted messaging

    But.... But... That's for pedophiles and terrorists.

  27. Harvard - says it all, PC garbage runs rampant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fact that it's from Harvard means it will be chock full of PC BS and other garbage endorsed by the Left without a modicum of common sense anywhere to be found...