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EPA Confirms Tesla's Model 3 Has a Range of 310 Miles (theverge.com)
Tesla's Model 3 has a confirmed range of 310 miles, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. "That figure applies to the long-range version of the Model 3, and echoes the vehicle specs released by Tesla back in July," reports The Verge. "It also makes the Model 3 one of the most efficient passenger electric vehicles on the market." From the report: The EPA's range is used as the advertised figure for electric vehicles that are sold in the US. The 310-mile range is an estimate of the number of miles the vehicle should be able to travel in combined city and highway driving from a full charge. That's 131 miles per gallon gasoline equivalent (MPGe) for city driving, 120 MPGe on the highway, and 126 MPGe combined. You'll have to pay more to get that extended range, though. Tesla said it would be selling a standard version of the Model 3, with just 220 miles of range, for $35,000. The long-range version will start at $44,000, the automaker says. Production on the standard version isn't expected to begin until 2018.
I don't care what the range is, until there are charging stations everywhere and a full charge happens in 10 minutes I would have range anxiety. You're totally going to say I'm being irrational, and I know I am, but it is what it is. I am just as bad with my phone,if it goes past 50% I have to plug it in.
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I'm liking the plug in hybrid idea a lot more than pure electric personally.
The Prius gets 25, and would probably cover half of my miles (no road trips, and leave me about 15 short on a weekend as I'm often not home). The Chevy volt (at 50) would cover essentially all of my none long distance driving, even a pretty chore busy weekend.
Wither way, there'd be no range anxiety, with half or less the trips to the gas station, and lower cost to maintain (less oil changes, less breaks, I assume an engine running at optimum power band to charge is a happier engine too).
I imagine for the vast majority of people a 50 mile range in a plug in is superior to a 500 range in an all electric, with a huge percentage of the benefits.
The only way I'd see the all electric being better would be if it cost less being simpler, but it seems we're not quite there yet with batteries.
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There is always "that guy" who needs to drive 300 miles in a day regularly. 305 miles is at least a five hour drive. Do you do that 20% of the time? If so, you need to find a new job because you are wasting your life away in a car.
Yeah, everyone knows if a new technology can't support your lifestyle, the solution is to redesign your lifestyle so that doesn't matter rather than sticking with the old technology. Got to keep upgrading and chucking the old technology in a landfill, even if the 'upgrade' is worse! Think of the environment!
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Plug in fuel cell, or pure fuel cell?
Because I don't think there's a great way to make hydrogen (correct me if I'm wrong). Sure, it can be made from hydrocarbons cleaner and more efficiently than a small engine can power (and likely charge) a car, but essentially a hydrogen tank is a quick to charge battery, or it uses fossil fuels, I don't think it'll really take off. Much better (IMO) to have 90+% power grid electric driving, the rest fossil fuel.
I wonder what Tesla could do performance wise if they made a plug-in hybrid, and where the price would fall. My understanding is the batteries are in the realm of 5 figures ($190/kwh, 100kwh battery), if knocking 80% of the battery cut half the price, that leaves some wiggle room for a small engine to charge it, and 60 miles from an overnight charge. The engine and gas may weigh less too.
There's no reason a plugin hybrid can't perform awesome, Toyota just went the route of massive mileage (600 miles on a small tank), and Chevy the route of average (150hp, 270ftlbs torque, comfortable driving around, but 7.5 0-60).
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Because I don't think there's a great way to make hydrogen (correct me if I'm wrong)
There's not quite yet but there area lot of very promising cheaper ways to produce hydrogen coming to fruition over the next ten years.
It has a lot of benefits, in that you can fuel up as fast as cars, and easily convert gas stations to store hydrogen. Any place with a lot of water can be a potential production source.
Perhaps what will happen is cars will trend all electric, but charging stations will be altered to work off huge fuel cells so they are not such a huge draw off the electric grid.
That's a big factor I don't see considered, what really has to change if 80+% of all cars are electric (as I expect they will be in 10-20 years). No matter what there is a huge infrastructure challenge ahead and I feel like hydrogen as fuel can be worked out before extra electrical grid capacity along with the many, many more charging stations that would be required for much wider use of electric cars.
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Or to put it another way, 99.999% of people may have this problem. It's adding an unnecessary risk that's the issue. One you simply don't have, even with the cheapest gasoline or hybrid vehicle.
Of course, with a gasoline vehicle, you might have the fuel pump or alternator or radiator go. None of which are a problem in electric vehicles.
I owned a Toyota Corolla for 17 years before it died (mostly of body rust). It probably broke down about 10 times, which is about 0.16% unreliable on a daily basis, or 99.84% reliable. That is rather worse than the 99.999% number given above.
This argument reminds me of the time a Tesla ran over a large piece of metal, warned the driver that it was going to shut down (giving them time to pull to the side of the road), and a few minutes later caught on fire. Gasoline cars catch on fire A LOT (usually with less warning); they're full of gasoline, get extremely hot, and generate sparks. But some people got the idea that electric cars were major fire hazards. People always focus on unlikely problems while not considering the common problems.
If you need to drive five hour trips regularly, and you aren't a delivery driver, your lifestyle sucks.