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From the Arctic's Melting Ice, an Unexpected Digital Hub (nytimes.com)

Cecilia Kang, reporting for the New York Times: This is one of the most remote towns in the United States, a small gravel spit on the northwest coast of Alaska, more than 3,700 miles from New York City. Icy seas surround it on three sides, leaving only an unpaved path to the mainland. Getting here from Anchorage, about 700 miles away, requires two flights. Roads do not connect the two places. Basics like milk and bread are delivered by air, and gas is brought in by barge during the summer. Needless to say, this is not the sort of place you expect to be a hub of the high-tech digital world. But in a surprising, and bittersweet, side effect of global warming -- and of the global economy -- one of the fastest internet connections in America is arriving in Point Hope, giving the 700 or so residents their first taste of broadband speed. The new connection is part of an ambitious effort by Quintillion, a five-year old company based in Anchorage, to take advantage of the melting sea ice to build a faster digital link between London and Tokyo. High-speed internet cables snake under the world's oceans, tying continents together and allowing email and other bits of digital data sent from Japan to arrive quickly in Britain. Until recently, those lines mostly bypassed the Arctic, where the ice blocked access to the ships that lay the cable. But as the ice has receded, new passageways have emerged, creating a more direct path for the cable -- over the earth's northern end through places like the Chukchi Sea -- and helping those emails move even move quickly. Quintillion is one of the companies laying the new cable, and Point Hope is one of the places along its route.

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  1. FTA: "But as the ice has receded, new passageways have emerged..."

    Nonsens! The ice is not receding. Long live oil!

    1. Re:No! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is this supposed to be funny?

  2. For old people that remember the NorthEast Passage by Not-a-Neg · · Score: 2

    The difference this year compared to the past century of ship travel through the NorthEast and NorthWest passage(s) is that this was the first year ships could travel through without needing ice breaker ships to lead them. The reduced cost is resulting in an increase of commercial traffic which I'm sure won't have any negative impact on global warming. ;)

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  3. Prime? by blunttrauma · · Score: 1

    Great, they will discover Prime and bankrupt Amazon.

  4. Faster emails? Sure... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    The new connection [...] to build a faster digital link between London and Tokyo.

    Forget the emails, we all know what this is about: faster streaming of tentacle porn in UHD! Fuck ya!

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  5. Data center baby! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Free cooling for the takin'. Sell the heat to the natives to heat their homes. Gotta be cheaper than whatever they're doing now. Maybe get a tax break from the state of Alaska

    1. Re:Data center baby! by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      'Cept for the electricity part.

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    2. Re: Data center baby! by Arnold+Reinhold · · Score: 1

      Could be a good location for wind power.

    3. Re: Data center baby! by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      Looks like about Class 4 but there's outstanding potential just North of there at Wevok. Point Hope has an elevation of 7 feet, whereas ~50 feet in Wevok, so it might be a better place for development driven by melting sea ice.

  6. emails? by SpaceCracker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nobody cares if emails take another couple of milliseconds.
    Reducing latency for transactions on financial markets is another story.

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    1. Re:emails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But a few milliseconds is the difference between First Post and not!

    2. Re:emails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this email is for getting me some spam, to see how many bots troll here. donald@greerink.com.

    3. Re:emails? by antdude · · Score: 1

      NBA, Comcast, Toyota, health, Obama, customer, etc., and I care. :P

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  7. QoS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    to build a faster digital link between London and Tokyo

    So this is for high frequency trading. The plebs will get whatever scraps fall from the mouths of the quants.

  8. Why Point Hope, why? by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

    Less than 700 people in the place. 12:10 male:female ratio. It's small, and there's nowhere else anywhere nearby. It's dark, and cold, and more or less in the middle of a cold ocean. There isn't enough food (at least if you want a modern diet - not sure about living off fish). Median income is ~US60K, but you know the cost of living is going to be nasty.

    Why does Point Hope still exist? You'd think there'd be a small military outpost if anything.

    1. Re:Why Point Hope, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      It's a socialist paradise with basic income and now the fastest internet. Jealous yet?

    2. Re:Why Point Hope, why? by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      I bet there's plenty of blue king crab, if the residents get subsistence permits. I don't hear much about commercial fishing that's allowed that far North, but Norton Sound Seafood advertises king crab, halibut, and salmon. Doubtless cod, pollock, and several varieties of sole could also be found, and there's caribou meat. Couple that with what could be grown in a wind farm supplied greenhouse, and you could have a healthy diet. City law does prohibit the sale or possession of alcoholic beverages, which makes sense, but could be less entertaining than what you're used to.

    3. Re:Why Point Hope, why? by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I found a Comprehensive Plan document:

      Point Hope’s location is known as one of the best locations in Alaska’s arctic for year-round hunting on
      the ice. Due to the deep water near the shore, leads open along the beach during both the winter and
      spring, guiding an abundance of whales, seals, and walrus close to the shore. Access to these resources
      has allowed the Tikigagmiut to live on the Tigara Peninsula continuously for thousands of years.
      Archaeological sites provide evidence of an over 2,000 year history of Native occupation.

      So it's an oasis of sorts. The document also says that they subsidize home heating fuel to under $2/gallon (market cost is around $8/gallon). Electricity is subsidized at $0.15/kW-h - true cost appears to be around $0.30/kW-h.

      Interesting downsides listed to living there:

      Community Weaknesses:7
        Cost of energy
        Job/career fairs
        24-hour public safety
        Better understanding of each entities goals
        Lack of radar system
        Evacuation road – only looking at gravel. Perhaps other material(s)
        Cost of fuel
        Cost of commodities
        Cost of food
        Shortage of health aides
        Community tri-lateral outreach program to close gap between the community and tri-lateral
        Better understanding of how voter proxy works
        Expanded senior services, such as senior lunches. Lunches are usually school lunch not
      traditional food
        Need for daycare – too expensive to bring old building up to code. New site and building being
      looked at.
        Need to be informed, for example when funding expires, when Point Hope can go after funding
      sources
      o Need a bank
      o Need a recreation center
      o Need a local clinic
      o Need a laundry mat
      o Airport upgrade needed
      o Need land resources inventory
      o Need energy resources
      o Need more housing

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    4. Re:Why Point Hope, why? by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      >Couple that with what could be grown in a wind farm supplied greenhouse

      My first thought, honestly, was that they apparently import a lot of bread and milk (presumably at great expense)... so why not go with goat milk over cow milk and have an indoor farm? Goats eat pretty much anything, so if you can grow anything without too much power for heat and extra light, you're golden.

      On the other hand, I doubt they have the money to build a giant indoor insulated and lit farm just for some goat milk.

      It's one of those things you realize, 'They could get a lot more for a hell of a lot more than it would be worth to do'. Then I'm right back to 'why not move south?'. Then again, I really hate the cold, so I'm probably biased.

    5. Re:Why Point Hope, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Alaska Permanent Fund is an investment fund belonging to the citizens of Alaska. It is in no sense a basic income.

    6. Re:Why Point Hope, why? by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      If you look at this site and this one, you'll see that the residents out there are mostly all native Alaskans and that they've been living in that location for 2500 years. I expect for most residents, living there is part of who they are, and they would no more want to move South than you would want to move North. The ocean does moderate the cold. The Wikipedia article says that the average coldest temp of the year is about minus eight Fahrenheit, so not as cold as the annual cold temps in winter in New York. I've been to the grocery store on St. Paul, and the Tanadgusix Corporation gets the food there without charging huge amounts of money for it. I expect it's not too much different for the Tikigaq Corporation's store in Point Hope. The problem I've seen with moving to Alaska is that the real estate prices (when real estate is even available) are higher than in similarly rural areas of much of the lower 48.

    7. Re: Why Point Hope, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      12 males, 10 females, 678 trans.

  9. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are they measuring the distance from New York? The Anchorage comparison was more than adequate for how out of the way it is. Using New York, you might as well use London or Tokyo. If it's because you want a city people have heard of, San Francisco, or at the very least, LA, at least those are on the same coast. I'm sure Seattle would have been fine as well.

    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous+Cashews · · Score: 1, Funny

      TFA was written in The New York Times. It's very unlikely that the average New Yorker knows where Anchorage, San Francisco and LA are. They might know Seattle only because of Amazon and/or Starbucks.

    2. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's going on here?!?

      -theAngryCashew

    3. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No creimer. Most Americans know all those cities.

      Remember when you said going to mexico to buy a child bride was how someone would get "the most bang out of their retirement dollar." That was just about as weird as when you said "Underage sweet thing"

      CAPCHA: Spectrum.

    4. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creimer haven't commented in three days and has yet to comment today. His PedoBear trolls are lashing out at any AC they think is linked to creimer in some way. Sad.

    5. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do we care? By "we" I mean the people who make fun of you, because nobody else will see your -1 comments.

    6. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I have no interest in Russian schoolboys, Bangcock ladyboys, or American/Mexican/Filipino child brides, these are the false narratives that my trolls have pushed so far this year. They believe that Slashdot is my “permanent record” on the Internet. Something that the Real World will forever hold against me, as if life was just a continuation of high school. The funny thing is that I never went to high school and I still got two associate degrees.

      https://www.kickingthebitbucket.com/2017/11/22/child-brides-american-apple-pie/

    7. Re:Huh? by syn3rg · · Score: 1
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    8. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chris, You've made this claim so many times that I actually started taking metrics at some point. The number of people who click a link in a thread is like 4 and then sometimes it'll get a click or two more over the next couple weeks.
      So nobody is paying attention here. I think people may be going to your blog because they heard you went on a nicely formatted Chris-Chan style autism rant about child brides and ladyboys.

      Cdreimer writes:

      While I have no interest in Russian schoolboys, Bangcock ladyboys, or American/Mexican/Filipino child brides, these are the false narratives that my trolls have pushed so far this year. They believe that Slashdot is my “permanent record” on the Internet. Something that the Real World will forever hold against me, as if life was just a continuation of high school. The funny thing is that I never went to high school and I still got two associate degrees.

      Special thanks go to the Anonymous Cowards (ACs) on Slashdot who protested this false narrative, posted news article links and tried to raise awareness about this serious issue.

      I'm pretty sure there's absolutely no way someone would read that and decide not to bother brining you in for a face-to-face interview. There's certainly no way that a background investigator would bring this up in the middle of your polygraph either.

    9. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "This is my first comment of the day."

      Of course it is! Normal people TOTALLY write that in their comments when they have nothing to hide! They do it all the time! You totally didn't post AC before!

      We believe you, Chris!

    10. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you think I keep coming back to Slashdot? For the abuse?

      I mean you regularly claim to come here for the "dumpster fires" which is of course another lie.

      What is it chris?
      Do you come here to intentionally disrupt everyone's slashdot experience? (Troll)
      or
      Do you come here in a desperate attempt to make money off the site? (Spammer)

      The truth is neither. You're here because you're autism lends itself to irrational obsessions. Why do you still post under your name? Because it's common for autistics define their identity externally. You are your usernames and blogs books and other shit like that. Your terrible karma actually pisses you off horribly so you're aggressively shitposting under your Anonymous Cashews identity so you can get enough mod points to fix your stupid CDREIMER account.

      You did it to yourself too. Even though it break your heart to have shit karma on slashdot, you acted like a prick thinking that you had a karma warchest built up from 10 years of shitposting and karma whoring. So it's not like you deserve some sort of 2nd chance

    11. Re: Huh? by Anonymous+Cashews · · Score: 0

      Hey, Creimer! Tell your asshole trolls to stop humping my leg!

    12. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's cute that you think we can't tell it's YOU , Chris. Your posts SMELL right through the screen. That vaguely stale, sour-milkish sweet smell of a borderline diabetic.

    13. Re: Huh? by Anonymous+Cashews · · Score: 0

      What's disgusting is that you can't limit yourself to creimer. When he goes off Slashdot for a three day weekend, you have to lash out at every AC whom you think is linked to creimer is some way. GROW. THE. FUCK. UP.

    14. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What's disgusting is that you can't limit yourself to creimer."

      No no, I'm limited to you, Poison Ivan, and your cashews accounts.

      " When he goes off Slashdot for a three day weekend,"

      How come you know so much about creimer? Nowhere did "cdreimer" (cough cough YOU) mention a "three-day weekend", so how do YOU know?

      " lash out at every AC whom you think is linked to creimer is some way. "

      Your crammar is slipping again, Poison Ivan!

      Watching you get all wound up over something even a grade-schooler would be embarrassed to admit to is very funny to me. An almost 50 year old man pretending to be different people and failing miserably.

      "GROW. THE. FUCK. UP."

      If you could fuck, you wouldn't have the time to post all this garbage, Chris.

      You like recommending books? I recommend this one.

    15. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were only making $3/day, even when you weren't getting auto-moderated to -1 and you were posting Amazon linkspams repeatedly. So you're not making money now, you're not engaging in real conversation...I guess I'm kind of at a loss about what you get here aside from abuse.

    16. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I guess I'm kind of at a loss about what you get here aside from abuse."

      The company, I guess. He must have a horrible void of an existence, a nearly fifty year old obese virgin hoarding books he doesn't read under his bed in a tiny rented apartment.

      Entertaining delusions of his relevance and "adoring fans"... When clearly he is disliked and unwanted.

    17. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow! How come you like using the same bizarre expressions as creimer, but yet totally aren't creimer?

    18. Re: Huh? by Anonymous+Cashews · · Score: 0

      How about this: Get your goat fucking trolls off my mother fucking leg?

    19. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about this: stop being Christopher Dale Reimer and stop posting inane childish drivel?

    20. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creimer has been watching sam jackson movies. I hope to god you don't try to act like sam jackson IRL.

    21. Re: Huh? by barbariccow · · Score: 1

      Whys everyone hate you, bud? I musta missed the big break...

    22. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See chris you don't understand. Nobody is "using slashdot to hire". They're going to spend a good 20 minutes googling your name and shit. Despite your claims, the first non-background check/whitepages listing for your name is in fact a slashdot post talking about you. Your blog is not far behind.

      Since I do from time to time interview tech workers I can tell you that as I read your blog post "No child brides no ladyboys.. blah blah... I have trolls.. my trolls. Child brides are as american as apple pie" I will imagine you standing in the middle of our office wiggling your arms limply back and forth, lips pouty, voice nasal... saying all this shit. "Kyle is one of my trolls because he thinks you can't marry a teenage girl in west virginia. I only want to marry one in mexico WITH VILLAGE PERMISSION"

      I will have heard enough that I won't bother interviewing you. Just have slashdot delete your account again and fuck right off for your own sake. Take down your blog too.

      I don't know why I even bother you won't. There is no telling how many good jobs never came your way because of your internet footprint. There really isn't because nobody is ever going to tell you that they decided not to call you.

      So I don't need some schmuck who never interviewed anyone and only gets calls for helpdesk telling me what's going to happen when people go to hire you. I'm certainly an authority on the subject compared to you.

    23. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This user is a Pedobear Troll! Hide your chikdren and goats!

  10. Nows the best time to do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With the next ice age on its way and people in a hurry to speed it up.

  11. Digital Route 66. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But as the ice has receded, new passageways have emerged, creating a more direct path for the cable -- over the earth's northern end through places like the Chukchi Sea -- and helping those emails move even move quickly. Quintillion is one of the companies laying the new cable, and Point Hope is one of the places along its route.

    Another "information superhighway" effect. Anything along that highway will prosper. Anything not, will not.

  12. Re:Something is wrong with this article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Russia articles incoming, thank you for your patience.

  13. Re:global warming by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    What freedom are you losing?

    But you're right, it would be devastating to destroy the economy when we will have to buy a new planet.

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  16. Re:For old people that remember the NorthEast Pass by trg83 · · Score: 1

    The more direct paths will likely lead to each ship burning less diesel per trip. More trips due to the ease is just an unfortunate side effect.

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  18. emails move even move quickly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I remember back in the 80's, I had dial up would send emails to a friend in DC (other side of the continent) who also had dial up and get a response back in seconds. I can only imagine what a faster system would be like. Maybe get responses before I send anything.

    1. Re: emails move even move quickly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All the available bandwidth will be choked full of webmail advertising and the actual email messages will arrive even slower than dial up.

    2. Re: emails move even move quickly by mspohr · · Score: 1

      This cable is being built in order to facilitate the high speed trading scam where financial firms "front run" trades to profit from getting their order into the stock exchange a few milliseconds faster than plebs. This should be illegal but since there is great profit for a few, the practice continues.
      The side effect of giving some remote location better Internet access is tolerable as long as it doesn't slow down the high speed trading scam.

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    3. Re: emails move even move quickly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This cable is being built in order to facilitate the high speed trading scam where financial firms "front run" trades to profit from getting their order into the stock exchange a few milliseconds faster than plebs. This should be illegal but since there is great profit for a few, the practice continues.

      Front running is illegal and has been prosecuted. It is not the only form of high speed trading. Some of them are perfectly legal and beneficial, but yes, front running is basically theft.

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  21. An Unexpected Hub by Myrdos · · Score: 1

    I understand that Point Hope will relay all incoming traffic to every outbound link. This will produce extra congestion, but makes Point Hope simpler and cheaper to maintain.

    I'll be jealous when it's a switch or router.

  22. Elevation: 6'89" by PinkyGigglebrain · · Score: 1

    so, what happens when the sea level rises? or a tsunami? Are they building it on stilts?