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Fewer Toys Gives Kids a Better Quality of Playtime, Study Claims (nypost.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from New York Post: Toddlers with just a few toys were more creative and focused than tots with more choices, according to the study, published in an upcoming edition of the journal Infant Behavior and Development. For the study, University of Toledo researchers gave kids under age 3 either four toys or 16 toys and recorded their playing habits, according to the report. "When provided with fewer toys in the environment, toddlers engage in longer periods of play with a single toy, allowing better focus to explore and play more creatively," researchers said. Fewer toys "promotes development and healthy play," they concluded. The bah humbug-boosting findings may be one reason to skimp on the stocking stuffers -- but parents have another option. Simply keep more toys in storage also helps rein in the attention of scatterbrained toddlers, researchers said.

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  1. Toys? by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For the most part, our kids had more fun with the cardboard boxes the toys came in than the toys themselves.

    Playing with a box encourages imagination. Playing with some intricate, structured toy just indoctrinates kids to fit in with societal expectations.

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    1. Re:Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For the most part, our kids had more fun with the cardboard boxes the toys came in than the toys themselves.

      Playing with a box encourages imagination. Playing with some intricate, structured toy just indoctrinates kids to fit in with societal expectations.

      Legos, meccanos are the best toys when it comes to letting your imagination go wild. Especially legos. Of course the ideal is to buy different sets and mix all the bricks together and let the toddler build whatever he wants. Young boys and girls want physical things.

    2. Re:Toys? by bozzy · · Score: 1

      Growing up we had part of a Slinky. But I straightened it.

    3. Re:Toys? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Growing up we had part of a Slinky. But I straightened it.

      You must have come from a wealthy family. All we had was a rock and a stick, and I had to wait until my older sister got dysentery and died before I could play with them.

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    4. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Dirt and just being outside beats any and all toys hands down. No study needed.

      Please people stop paying for stupid fucking studies. Now send my 2 million dollars and we will call this even

    5. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus Christ lived in a world where milking goats was a living. Creative skills are what's needed to survive in a world where robots threaten to automate much of the world we know, and that means play time is vital.

    6. Re:Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Legos sold out the moment they started sets with specially shaped pieces. The brick is perfect in its perfectness.

    7. Re: Toys? by eddeye · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your heroes like Elon Musk certainly didn't die on the cross or rise from the dead, so ignore them and follow Jesus Christ.

      Give Elon time, he's just getting started. I'm sure that's on his supervillain todo list.

      Also, to be fair, Christ never built a bitching hot rod.

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    8. Re: Toys? by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

      Budda tried that - and he found you need balance in your life - the middle way. All things in moderation.

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    9. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Jesus Christ didn't tell anyone anything. He is fictional.

    10. Re: Toys? by alexo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      read the Bible, and live in the real world rather than the fantasy one you are creating.

      The irony is strong with this one.

    11. Re:Toys? by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Reads a little too much like "BACK IN MY DAY, ye got a plank of wood for yer birthday!"

      Balance is important. Kids need some unstructured play and some structured play. Refusing to conform to societal expectations isn't a good thing across the board. And I see zero evidence TOYS indoctrinate kids in anything aside from maybe gender roles.

    12. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "read the Bible, and live in the real world "

      You're seriously deluded if you think a bunch of ancient myths are anywhere close to reality.

      (Or, maybe you're just a really good troll.

      I am not the anonymous you answered to, and i believe that kids may need some (few) good (e.g., lego bricks, musical instruments, a bicycle) toys, but as a -bad, God forgive me- "Christian" i agree that people (kids included) must read the Bible, and as a Greek i must correct you on the use of the word "myth": a myth is NOT a lie (necessary) - reality may become mythical (i.e., survive from the past as a story in the future).

    13. Re: Toys? by aberglas · · Score: 1

      It is generally believed that somebody named Jesus did exist.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      What he actually did is another matter.

    14. Re:Toys? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Legos sold out the moment they started sets with specially shaped pieces. The brick is perfect in its perfectness.

      The plain bricks are awesome ... at the proper stage of development. I'm fine with the idea of giving the littler ones a head-start with imagining the world they're trying to create.

      Successful learning requires the student to be put in a situation where they need just a little bit more than what they have at that moment to take the next step. That "little bit more" could be an insight from their own mind, or a connection with the group around them. The thing is, you can't frustrate the student by not giving them enough of a head-start to find their way to success. You have years and years to show them how to make their own "head-starts" afterwards.

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    15. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      read the Bible, and live in the real world rather than the fantasy one you are creating.

      The irony is strong with this one.

      I am not the anonymous you answered to, and i believe that kids may need some (few) good (e.g., lego bricks, musical instruments, a bicycle) toys, but as a -bad, God forgive me- "Christian" i agree that people (kids included) must read the Bible, and as a Greek i must warn you about "irony": irony is a toy that play games with people - it may become ironical when it use you (i.e., as an argument in a discussion about toys.).

    16. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about you sell all of your possessions and give the money to the poor. Jesus Christ tells us that we must do this and believe in Him if we are to be saved and have eternal life. Jesus is the reason for the Christmas season, when God became man, died in the cross for our sins, and rose from the dead. Your heroes like Elon Musk certainly didn't die on the cross or rise from the dead, so ignore them and follow Jesus Christ.

      First of all, let's note that Jesus may have been the seed that spawned Christianity, but he was not a Christian. He was Jewish. Born, lived, and died an observant Jew.

      There are many other good people in this world who follow religious leaders other than Jesus. Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and many others, all have their venerable traditions that endeavour in their own way to make the world a better place. And let's not forget secular humanists and atheists who wish to do well by their fellow man, without following any religious tradition.

      I was raised a Christian, and I am married to a Jew. One of the most important things I learned in Christian Sunday School was the concept of humility as a sinner. I am no better than anyone else. I ask forgiveness and endeavour to be worthy of it. And I endeavour to offer forgiveness in return. Charity is not just about money. It's also about love.

    17. Re: Toys? by sjames · · Score: 2, Funny

      What if they want biblical action figures so they can act out the stories of the Bible with their friends?

    18. Re:Toys? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Growing up we had part of a Slinky. But I straightened it.

      You must have come from a wealthy family. All we had was a rock and a stick, and I had to wait until my older sister got dysentery and died before I could play with them.

      Okay, time for this. /thread

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    19. Re:Toys? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      And I see zero evidence TOYS indoctrinate kids in anything aside from maybe gender roles.

      It's not the toys that do it, or at most, they play a minor role. My mom wouldn't buy me war toys (neither GI Joe figures, nor toy guns, etc.) but she would buy me masking tape, and I turned paper towel tubes and spark plug electrode protectors and an old button ripped out of a dead calculator and who knows what else and I made a goddamned gun and attached it to a tripod from a music stand and I had my very own imaginary stationary weapon. Refuse to buy me a toy pistol, I'll build a toy truck-mounted machine gun. Did that take more creativity than just buying a gun? Sure! No doubt it was all kinds of character-forming. But it sure didn't stop me from blowing up imaginary bad guys.

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    20. Re:Toys? by fermion · · Score: 1
      I tended to have one or two toys when I was growing up, or at least only one or two toys that I regularly played with. A six million dollar man airplane. An erector set. A friend and I would spend a lot of time playing in a VW van.

      I probably had more toys, but I don't know if even know I play with many different toys.

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    21. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, so long as they read the Qur'an too.

      Not so they can become religious, just so they can see fort themselves it's the exact same book.

      Try it, open any "online Qur'an" web site and open a page at random. Within a couple of paragraphs you'll be reading about Moses, Abraham, Jesus, Mary, etc. The only difference is that the use the Arabic word for "God", "Allah".

    22. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever happened to, "The Lord will provide"?

      That's the best part of The Bible - Christians ignore it.

    23. Re:Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Playing with some intricate, structured toy just indoctrinates kids to fit in with societal expectations.

      Legos, meccanos are the best toys when it comes to letting your imagination go wild.

      Most of the Legos I've seen in the last 25 years have been structured toys with so many specially shaped parts there's really only one use for them. Very expensive jigsaws.

    24. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how about "the facebook experience" crammed down the throats of parents/children?

    25. Re:Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Storage? Ain't got time for that. eBay bitches! Hahahaha.

    26. Re: Toys? by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Jesus Christ lived in a world where milking goats was a living. Creative skills are what's needed to survive in a world where robots threaten to automate much of the world we know, and that means play time is vital.

      Huh?

      Matthew 6:25: "Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life? And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these"

      https://www.openbible.info/top...

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    27. Re: Toys? by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      It is generally believed by ignorant Bible Thumpers that somebody named Jesus did exist.

      FTFY.

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    28. Re: Toys? by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Informative

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

      From your own link: "There is no physical or archaeological evidence for Jesus. All sources are documentary, mainly Christian writings"

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    29. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No you darn ridiculous christian. "The bible" has long been proved to be fantasy. No value in there. only rapes, racism, murder and adultery..

    30. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isaac and his mother lived alone in a small house on a hill. Isaac kept to himself, drawing pictures and playing with his toys as his mom watched Christian broadcasts on the television.
      Life was simple, and they were both happy.
      That was, until the day Isaac's mom heard a voice from above: "Your son has become corrupted by sin! He needs to be saved!"

      "I will do my best to save him, my Lord," Isaac's mother replied, rushing into Isaac's room, removing all that was evil from his life.

      Again, the voice called to her:
      "Isaac's soul is still corrupt! He needs to be cut off from all that is evil in this world and confess his sins."

      "I will follow your instructions, Lord. I have faith in thee," Isaac's mother replied, as she locked Isaac away in his room, away from the evils of the world.

      One last time, Isaac's mom heard the voice of God calling to her:
      "You have done as I asked, but I still question your devotion to me. To prove your faith, I will ask one more thing of you."

      "Yes, Lord. Anything," Isaac's mother begged.

      "To prove your love and devotion, I require a sacrifice. Your son Isaac will be this sacrifice. Go into his room and end his life as an offering to me, to prove that you love me above all else!"

      "Yes, Lord," she replied, grabbing a butcher's knife from the kitchen.

    31. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What decade did you travel from where Facebook was still relevant to anyone under 60yo?

    32. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No you darn ridiculous christian. "The bible" has long been proved to be fantasy.

      "proved"? You choose a very strong word! Can you point me -a ridiculous Greek Orthodox Christian- to those proofs my dear brother?

      No value in there. only rapes, racism, murder and adultery..

      Apart from the fact that i have never read Christ committing rapes, murder, and adultery, i wonder if you find any value for the written laws of your society (for example, those against rape and murder) - and since you -like me- seem to be against adultery (you mention it as something negative), i wonder if you find a value in writing a book advising against it by providing stories with the consequences for adulterers (you know... like the Bible!).

    33. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, he participated in Expedition Robinson on Swedish TV some years ago LMFAO.

    34. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you want to stifle critical thought? You claim to have read the Quran, yet say others should not. Is that not hypocritical? Let people make up their own minds.

      They are both bollocks, but everyone should be free to examine them and make up their own mind. It is not for me to tell anyone what to think. You shouldn't be doing that either.

    35. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Budda tried that - and he found you need balance in your life - the middle way. All things in moderation.

      The middle way between reality and bullshit, isn't the right way.

      You have two bottles of milk, one is good and the other is bad. What do you do, drink the good milk, the bad milk, or take the middle way and mix them both together?

    36. Re: Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I agree. I read the bible. Numerous times. And there has rarely been a tool more suited to making a thinking man an athest.

      The bible is a lot like Mein Kampf: Many people had it, and if more had read it, a lot of atrocities could have been avoided because they would've seen just WHAT kind of bullshit they are supposed to follow.

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    37. Re: Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You know that an internet trend is over when my dad finds out about it.

      He found Facebook last week.

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    38. Re: Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 0

      People should read only the Bible (Jewish Old Testament and Christian New Testament) - the Quran is worthless and evil.

      And the bible isn't? Dude, if they made a series about the bible, most episodes would be PG13, a lot more M and a few couldn't get shown on TV altogether. Murder, pillage and rape, and all in the name of the god...

      And that god's supposed to be the GOOD guy!

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    39. Re: Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Define a "kind" of animal and I'll show you why the whole Arc story is bullshit. Because however you define it, it blows the whole story out of water. Pun intended.

      Not to mention that the whole "infallible god" stuff is going out the window no later than Genesis 6:6.

      And between all that we have talking donkeys, talking snakes, people dying and coming back to life and people living for hundreds of years.

      You're SERIOUSLY asking why this is considered a fantasy story? Fuck, Harry Potter has less magic and a more convincing plot.

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    40. Re: Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Poe's Law is in full effect. And for a change, even in its original meaning.

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    41. Re:Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      That was really bad in the 90s but they are slowly recovering.

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    42. Re: Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      So ... god's a socialist government? Providing for his subjects while taxing those that produce?

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    43. Re: Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Did someone names Jesus exist in or around Jerusalem around 0-30AD? Is that a trick question? Jesus (or Yeshua) was not really an uncommon name, it's like asking if there's a Michael in New York.

      Or a Jesus in Tijuana...

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    44. Re:Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, cardboard boxes are functional things with a real purpose. The toys in the boxes are not real in the sense they are not used for anything else than playing.

      Playing with real world things teaches kids the real world, even when the things are nothing more than sticks, stones or cardboard boxes. Playing with funny talking animals and other nonsensical crap teaches kids nothing useful.

    45. Re: Toys? by aberglas · · Score: 1

      It is a little bit (but not much) more than that.

      Did someone exist named Jesus that lived about that time and was a religious leader of some kind and got crucified by Pontius Pilot and forms the mythical basis of the Gospels. I think the answer to that is almost certainly yes. But whether any thing else said about him is true is a matter of ... faith.

    46. Re:Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but it's not that far off reality. When I was young, we weren't rich, but we had enough money that my parents bought me a toy or two. Still, the most fun we (me + friends) had was when my mom brought home cardboard boxes from work (she worked retail and could take home the empty delivery boxes, we had a wood stove and they burned well). Those boxes came in all possible sizes, were sturdy (they were made from corrugated cardboard) yet easy to work with.

      In a nutshell, our favorite toys were Stanley knives and gaffer tape. And we could be as deliberately destructive with our toys as we wanted without any parents yelling at us for destroying them. They were heating fuel anyway.

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    47. Re:Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crayons and a box......best combo "toy" ever !

    48. Re:Toys? by murdocj · · Score: 1

      Yep. The best "toy" I ever gave my nieces was a play mat that had a small town (some buildings and roads) laid out on it, and a toy car for each of them. They loved it and spent more time playing together with that than they did with the other stuff they got that Christmas.

      And on the other side, I've seen kids get many, many presents. They'd rip open each present in seconds, glance at it, move to the next. It was like watching someone get incredibly hyper on 5 cups of coffee.

    49. Re: Toys? by murdocj · · Score: 2

      Bible stories aren't necessarily "true" but they provide some basis for discussion and thought. I'm not religious and I don't think God has delivered "his (or her) word" to any particular people, but I do believe that literature that has survived and influence people for 1,000s of years is worth a look.

    50. Re: Toys? by murdocj · · Score: 1

      ah, slashthink, how old-school

    51. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, let's encourage kids to read a book with all the magical answers and never question authority, or to think for themselves. Sounds like a great value to have -- especially when the world leaves them even further behind than their 2,500 year doctrine, they can watch their little realities collapse, appeal to authority again for answers, and then start suicide bombing crap.

    52. Re:Toys? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Old school Legos were good. A 7 year old accused me of playing with Legos wrong, because I made something that wasn't in the build instructions. I had the pieces to make a race car, not an air plane, those are wheels not propellers. Today Legos are just expensive model kits.

      When I was a kid, Fisher-Price had a toy line called constructs, kinda of a cross between Legos and an erector set (The old ones where you had all metal parts). I even had the set with a motor. So I can setup with belts and pulleys to make all sorts of thing, often making toys from toylines that I didn't own but I wanted. My own transformers, mask vehicle, sky commanders or Ninja Turtle weapon. I rarely ever made the model toys that were in the paperwork. I did study one of the motorized models where it had arms that went up and down, and I was fascinated on how to get movement from a circular motor going in one directions to arms swinging in different directions, So I figured it out, and made different variants of it.

      But even with more traditional toys I think it is still up to the parents to help them guide their play. Guide the children in building their own stories with the toys, bringing in out of cannon characters and other toys. Just as long as you don't tell a boy that the action figure is a doll, you are good, if you do you could cause a traumatic sense of logic to their life. Because at first they are like it isn't a doll. Then they think the definition of a doll, compare it to their action figure, and they realize they have been playing with dolls, and this makes them sad.

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    53. Re: Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Again, I'd be surprised if it was only one. Moreover, there is no need to be the same person, things get merged together all the time. It's even likely that the stories the bible compiles about Jesus are stories that are older and about a different messiah or preacher, much like the OT lent stories from older sources, like the story about the flood or the story of Moses.

      Crucifixion was hardly a rare kind of punishment in those days, the Romans really loved putting people onto crosses for some odd reason. It was a really gruesome kind of death and it did impress people to see people die like this (ya know, TV wasn't that big a thing back then, they didn't have much for entertainment...), it was a handy tool to convince people it's better to not question Roman authority. Did they crucify someone named Jesus? Almost certainly they did.

      Another thing that was certainly not in short supply in those days were religious leaders, preaching and wandering, wandering and preaching. Whenever times were rough, and Roman occupation isn't really a picnic, there was never a shortage of people pointing to religion as the solution for everything. Was one of them crucified? Certainly. Was one of them named Jesus? Again, pretty much certainly.

      How many televangelists do we have today by the name of Michael? How many of them are caught cheating on their wives? Was one of them named Michael? Who cares, it makes a good story and if I need a Michael, just conflate that guy with one of the cheaters. Nobody outside the televangelist circles will care, and if I am the only "official" one keeping record, what I record will be gospel.

      Any Roman sources would probably not be in a good enough shape to actually pinpoint "the" Jesus. They would probably record that some self proclaimed messiah was crucified, whether they record the name of "some barbarian" is a different matter. And if they did, whether they gave a fuck that they recorded something as insignificant as this properly is yet another.

      In the end, there were certainly a lot of Jesus', a lot of prophets and a lot of crucifixions, and if you really want to believe, you'll nearly certainly find a few intersections in these three groups.

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    54. Re: Toys? by leomekenkamp · · Score: 1

      As states the anonymous coward, with ancient scripts as his only source.

      Please have a look at logic, and make a study of 'non sequitur'. Even if we accept the absurdity of your claim that someone came back from the dead, that revival says nothing about the claims that zombie has been making. In other words: causing a miracle does not make everything you say true.

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    55. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not a good troll, and your replying made baby Jesus cry.

    56. Re: Toys? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      It is kinda funny, how some people think the bible is all about ancient myths with strange supernatural events happening all the time. While there are some occurrences of this, and some of them can be explained scientifically and treated as stories with some exaggeration over the millennia. For the most part it is about wars won, and changes in politics and separating from nations, and forming a new one and building laws for the new civilizations. Under the New Testament, it covered the life and teaching of this guy named Jesus (under the perspective of multiple writers). Some writers have a lot of fantastic events, others are more focused on explaining the nature of his teachings.

      I actually don't think the Bible is really good for kids. Sure Noah saved all those cute animals, but afterwords there was incest and a lot of bizarre things. And many of the lessons taught need to be understood in a historical context, and the fact that the civilization that we live in, is much more different. The laws and rules were made for a nomadic type of culture, not for a fixed one, and many of these rules that we point to as in the bible, wern't rules made by God, but were rules made by man to help normalize a civilization.

      When parents read parts to the kids, it makes it seem like the Bible is only about ancient myths and faerie tail like stories. because the get rid of the hard to explain stuff that also happens. For the most part religion has over simplified itself, as to appeal with an average of an 8th grade education.

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    57. Re: Toys? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Well Jewish, Christian, and Muslim faiths at their core, are the same. Just with some different people at the end of the books with some different focuses of interpretation of the earlier portions. There is enough differences to make them different religions vs just a different sect.

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    58. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you want to stifle critical thought? You claim to have read the Quran, yet say others should not. Is that not hypocritical? Let people make up their own minds.

      They are both bollocks, but everyone should be free to examine them and make up their own mind. It is not for me to tell anyone what to think. You shouldn't be doing that either.

      It would be hypo-critical if i was NOT proposing "People should read only the Bible" because i wrote my criticism to the Quran ("worthless and evil") answering the proposal "[people should read the Bible,] so long as they read the Qur'an too" - and i closed my comment with "Greetings from a Greek that has read the Quran..." as a suggestion to anyone wanted to do the same as me!

      Greeting from Greece (where this "They are both bollocks ... It is not for me to tell anyone what to think" of yours sound a bit... hypocritical!)

    59. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People should read only the Bible (Jewish Old Testament and Christian New Testament) - the Quran is worthless and evil.

      And the bible isn't? Dude, if they made a series about the bible, most episodes would be PG13, a lot more M and a few couldn't get shown on TV altogether. Murder, pillage and rape, and all in the name of the god...

      And that god's supposed to be the GOOD guy!

      I wrote in the same comment: "Mohamed used many parts of the Jewish Old Testament (many of them distorted), and -just barely- mentioned Jesus (and Mary), but the teachings and ethics of Islam is contrary to Christianity (e.g., Islam = kill the infidels - Christianity = love your enemy)".

      I think that it is clear to anyone having a minimum knowledge and honesty that Christ ("the GOOD guy" - the leader of us, Christians... as a human and God) is against "Murder, pillage and rape" - do you have the minimum knowledge and honesty brother?

    60. Re: Toys? by aberglas · · Score: 1

      Indeed. And most convenient that he happened to be born on the date of the mid-winter festival. Records from roman times are sketchy, and anything to do with "Jesus" will be edited by the early church. But I suspect that there is likely that there was one man Jesus whose story was embellished.

    61. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Define a "kind" of animal and I'll show you why the whole Arc story is bullshit. Because however you define it, it blows the whole story out of water. Pun intended.

      Not to mention that the whole "infallible god" stuff is going out the window no later than Genesis 6:6.

      And between all that we have talking donkeys, talking snakes, people dying and coming back to life and people living for hundreds of years.

      You're SERIOUSLY asking why this is considered a fantasy story? Fuck, Harry Potter has less magic and a more convincing plot.

      I have noticed that you are in the bad habit of distorting the truth brother...

      I was NOT "SERIOUSLY asking why this is considered a fantasy story" - i responded to "No you darn ridiculous christian. "The bible" has long been proved to be fantasy." with " "proved"? You choose a very strong word! Can you point me -a ridiculous Greek Orthodox Christian- to those proofs my dear brother?"

      Do you understand brother?

    62. Re:Toys? by Convector · · Score: 2

      Oh, dysentery! Your family got one of those luxury diseases. We couldn't even afford the common cold virus. Dysentery implies you had access to water. We had to stand around all day with our mouths open hoping a stray raindrop would fall in.

    63. Re:Toys? by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      > between Legos

      You're almost there.

      Basically, the fun toy you need is between the legs.

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    64. Re: Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Distorting what truth? Sorry, but there is no truth in the bible. If you really want to tell me you saw snakes and donkeys talk and know of any people living more than 150 years, have any compelling evidence of a global flood (or that something like that was even possible), can point to any way the animals (or plants, if you're really in for a challenge) could not only congregate somewhere in the middle east from all over the globe and then spread back to where they came from without leaving ANY kind of trace for that...

      well, then I wouldn't be pushing too hard on "truth" if I was you.

      Or honesty.

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    65. Re: Toys? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Well stopping at that point in the story is a bit misleading...

    66. Re: Toys? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Oh c'mon, do I really have to cite the parts of the bible where Jesus talks about him swords, turning families onto each other or where he curses towns because they weren't groveling enough for his miracles?

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    67. Re: Toys? by guruevi · · Score: 1

      They did make a movie series about the Biblical God. I think it was called Saw.

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    68. Re: Toys? by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Even when I was young, I had to follow the instructions while my brother was freelancing the thing. Itâ(TM)s the difference between an artist and an engineer I suppose.

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    69. Re: Toys? by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Jesusâ(TM) supposed birth day was changed and added later, rather poorly. The story and the seasons (shepherds outside, traveling to Egypt) described donâ(TM)t match up with a date in winter, the actual day would have to be late summer or early fall.

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    70. Re:Toys? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      The most fun I recall as a kid was my grandparents letting us use their blankets, and we set up a big tent int he living room using chairs. We basically spent an entire day under the damned thing, even ate our meals there. They didn't have a lot of toys, but when you let kids actually use their imaginations and their wits to create fun, rather than handing them prefabricated fun, there's not just the pleasure of the fun, but the pleasure of the accomplishment.

      It's also why building mega snow forts is among the proudest things I've ever done. We usually had more fun building those monsters than we did with the ensuing snowball fight.

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    71. Re:Toys? by judoguy · · Score: 1

      Growing up we had part of a Slinky. But I straightened it.

      You must have come from a wealthy family. All we had was a rock and a stick, and I had to wait until my older sister got dysentery and died before I could play with them.

      You had a stick?!?

      Damn, we used to look through holes in the fence to see rich kids with a stick. Hell, we couldn't begin to afford dysentery.

      We had to beg on street corners just to rent leprosy for an evening. And not the good stuff either.

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    72. Re:Toys? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Legos, meccanos are the best toys.

      No they aren't. There's no such thing.

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    73. Re: Toys? by jittles · · Score: 1

      Also, to be fair, Christ never built a bitching hot rod.

      How do you know?? He was a carpenter. For all you know he built the fastest chariot that Ben Hur ever saw.

    74. Re:Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two possibilities here:

      * Your kids are cats.
      * The toys you bought suuuuuuucked.

      Action figures were more fun than the box.
      The NES/SNES/N64 was more fun than the box.
      Playdoh was more fun than the container.
      Creepy Crawlers were more fun to make than playing with the box.
      Roller blades were more fun than the box.
      Legos were more fun than the box.

      Were you one of those families who, for the most part, bought religious or educational toys? Because if so, that's why the box was cherished.

    75. Re: Toys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    76. Re: Toys? by Gornkleschnitzer · · Score: 1

      And then Isaac shot monsters, using his tears as bullets.

    77. Re: Toys? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      That Abraham was willing to kill Isaac isn't changed by a last-minute change of plans. That's a perfectly good place to end the story, without the pasted-on happy ending.

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  2. I think this can be generalized by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To include adults also... you know the saying -> The only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys

    1. Re:I think this can be generalized by barbariccow · · Score: 1

      I've never heard anyone who wasn't filthy-stinkin rich say this. Often to show off how much richer they are than the just very-wealthy person to whom they are speaking.

    2. Re: I think this can be generalized by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I agree. Jesus Christ tells us that toys and other possessions hinder us in receiving His salvation.

      When Jesus was a baby, the Magi brought him gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. I didn't see anything in the bible about the holy family giving them back..

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    3. Re: I think this can be generalized by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The three wise men refer to astrological formations. Its just a metaphor.

    4. Re: I think this can be generalized by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Astrological formations who bring gifts. You must be some kind of Biblical scholar!

    5. Re: I think this can be generalized by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... the holy family giving them back ...

      Frankincense and myrrh are consumables which may have limited their investment value. I can't speak to their resale value but it's difficult to imagine aromatic products (IE. perfumes) being valuable.

      ... gold ...

      It doesn't say how much gold, and an unemployed tradesman (I'm guessing since he was on the road with his entire family) with a newborn, doubtless needed some money.

    6. Re: I think this can be generalized by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      The three wise men refer to astrological formations. Its just a metaphor.

      And Jesus refers to Mithras. It's all made up, so just play along.

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    7. Re: I think this can be generalized by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      ... the holy family giving them back ...

      Frankincense and myrrh are consumables which may have limited their investment value. I can't speak to their resale value but it's difficult to imagine aromatic products (IE. perfumes) being valuable.

      http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/14/...

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  3. Imagination by barbariccow · · Score: 1

    When I was a kid, my mind was my favourite toy. I would just run back and forth, sometimes I'd be an astronaut. Sometimes a knight. Sometimes a construction worker. Now I see 3 year olds glued to ipads... expect a hoard of drones to make up the next generation.

    Also obligatory walked uphill both ways get off my lawn etc etc

    1. Re:Imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was a kid my favorite toys were lego bricks (not sets, just hundreds of loose bricks I used to build whatever I imagined), meccano sets and sets of colored screwdrivers. I was a budding engineer, but I was kept away from "fixing" the stereo and television sets.
      I wasn't interested in videogames (Atari 2600 was all the rage at the time) or home computers at all. Building physical things was a more rewarding experience than staying put in front of the tv screen.

    2. Re:Imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, are you this guy?

    3. Re:Imagination by sjames · · Score: 1

      Tinker toys and lego were by far the best toys. They could be anything at any time. If you needed a laser gun, tinker toys to the rescue. Of course, a stick would do in a pinch.

      Of course, more structured toys were subject to being used to represent something entirely different whenever necessary. Absolutely nothing said Big Jim couldn't catch a radioactive fish and gain super powers.

    4. Re: Imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK I'll bite. By spamming this thread you are turning people *away* from Jesus/Christianity by pissing them off, thus performing the devil's work. You are literally a tool of Satan. But I don't suppose your self-righteous pride will let you see that.

    5. Re: Imagination by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Who is Jesus Christmas?

      And what of kids too young to be literate?

    6. Re: Imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't feed the troll.

  4. Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To a point, the less choices people have, the happier they are with whatever they choose.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    1. Re: Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you gonna do this on every comment?

      *makes rude "wank off" gesture at the troll*

    2. Re:Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's simpler than that. Fewer toys mean more time spent with each toy. Or more so, fewer toys mean a lot more dedication to a single toy. When you have many toys, you're merely hording. You simply can't get much happiness out of each toy because you'll never have the time to fully enjoy them nor can you coincide that joy with others because it takes time to enjoy them. This is why we also see Jack of All Trades, Master of None and hardcore Nintendo/Sega fanboyism.

      It's also a major reason why the idea of the mythical superhuman with twenty degrees or a master of twenty things are so fanciful but also so appealing. It's not that we can't choose the top twenty things to focus on. It's that no one can obtain the mastery of twenty things in the time of two or three, and it's the joy of mastery that tends to be the core of happiness (or at least sustained satisfaction). Of course the other end of that is over-mastery which can lead to boredom or generally a stunted long-term development.

    3. Re: Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hmm... eternal life... let's see, what do I have to do to get it...

      Ok, no screwing around, no lying, no stealing, no pillaging (all of them unless god says so)...

      why the fuck would I want eternal life, then?

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    4. Re:Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by swb · · Score: 1

      I think this is true.

      Back in the day when you rented physical video tapes, I'm sure I watched some shitty movies. But unlike Netflix, I didn't rent 3 tapes and then watch 1/3 of each them and feel like I had just wasted 90 minutes.

      I used to take my Walkman with me to classes every day -- something like 2 hours of listening time between walking, waiting, etc, and I maybe brought 1 extra cassette tape with me. Now it's like 6,000 songs on my phone and I can't listen to more than 3 in a row *on a playlist* without skipping, or just abandoning the playlist for something else.

      The only place where I don't feel like this holds up is restaurant menus.

    5. Re: Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why are you so willing to accept Jesus Christ when I know a guy called Bob Smithers who offers the same PLUS extra benefits. Yet you are so blinded by your fantasy that you reject the eternal Life plus extras that Bob Smithers offers.

    6. Re:Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by DogYears · · Score: 1

      Could be... (looking at massive collection of Steam and GOG games purchased and barely played or not even downloaded)

    7. Re:Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That has a lot of bias in it. I have a better formulation and I call it the "Menu paradox" which has a simpler explanation. The more options you have, the more you are "not eating any of the other". So you need to imagine yourself eating all the dishes (mentally) and then you have to choose one and forgo the pleasure of all others. But then you order two, you also spend double and these dishes may not mix well, you feel gilt if you don't finish any most often, and also likely have overeated (because sizes are different). This is also why many cousines have as "dish" just samplers (very small portions) such as Tapas (spanish), Picada (Argentinian) and so on. And also why some cuisines have sometimes the concept of trusting the cheff. I've heard one friend tell me that a good kitchen is when you can ask the Cheff to bring you whatever he wants. If you like what he brings, even if yould have different preference, you almost always end up happier (if the cheff is good). There are more interactions, but the Menu Paradox encapsulates most of the effects of overabundance of choices and consumer selection.

    8. Re:Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I must not have ADD. I've never started a movie on Netflix and only watched part of it, especially not repeatedly. I might laugh at how bad it is, but I can at least commit to it.

      What you're saying has little to do with available choices and more to do with a short attention span.

    9. Re:Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by swb · · Score: 2

      My theory (and this may just be own rehashing/reinvention of the Paradox of Choice) is that the ability to make alternative choices with near zero transaction costs leads to an unrealistic expectation of gratification.

      With one VHS or one cassette and no easy way to obtain an alternative, I can either accept the gratification of something to watch/listen to or the alternative, which is nothing. At least in my mind, even a poor experience was better than no experience, even with the burden of some kind of buyer's remorse (ie, I should have rented a different movie or brought a different cassette).

      With many choices, I expect that I will achieve an optimal level of gratification because I won't face any buyer's remorse and I expect that there is a choice which will achieve that optimal gratification. When it doesn't, I think the frustration of re-choosing and not achieving gratification masks the value of marginal gratification vs. no gratification.

      It's the expectation that unlimited choice always equals optimal gratification that winds up being consistently disappointing.

    10. Re: Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to see the terms in writing, and meet the man making the offer before I buy anything big.

    11. Re:Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Of course, part of the reason this doesn't happen on Netflix for me is that I have a queue over 100 items deep with content I pre-selected when I had time to do it (and was more interested in browsing in a web browser than watching a movie).

    12. Re:Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by swb · · Score: 1

      I had a queue like that when I did DVDs, but when streaming became more common I got lazy and did that instead of the discs and ultimately cancelled the disc plan because I wasn't watching them. Another reason I cancelled is that many of the old/rare/niche movies I wanted to watch went from "some delay" to "long delay" to "unavailable" and the disc service lost a lot of value to me.

      Based on some basic back of the envelope calculations, I'd be better off just paying to stream content on-demand from wherever (amazon, itunes, etc) based on my actual volume of consumption.

      It doesn't completely solve the paradox of choice, but it'd be kind of like renting VHS again. You're more inclined to accept what you choose because you paid a price to get it.

    13. Re:Another variation on the Paradox of Choice by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Easy way for me is that every month there's a "What's coming and going from Netflix" article on Lifehacker, and use that to discover new movies or shows. I still have my disc subscription, but realized that I recently paid about $60 to rent one disc because I forgot about it since February. Turned out that the disc arrived cracked in half back then. Most of my queue is rare stuff anyway, so no streaming options. I would have to buy the DVD outright on a gamble - though less of a gamble than $60 to rent.

  5. Sounds obvious to me by Sivaraj · · Score: 1

    I would like a study on why the scientists spend time studying things that are obvious to nursery school teachers.

    1. Re:Sounds obvious to me by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Studies about conventional wisdom are good because sometime conventional wisdom is wrong (e.g. geocentric universe models).

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    2. Re:Sounds obvious to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's obvious to everybody but most kids have 20 relative who all feel obliged to buy them presents.

  6. New Toys by Arzaboa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When you have a never ending stream of new toys, the game is, "What's new."

    When you have a couple of toys, the game is "Let's play with this and try not to break it."

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    1. Re:New Toys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's see how we can break these toys.

    2. Re:New Toys by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Your sig line is oddly ironic in this context.

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    3. Re:New Toys by slinches · · Score: 1

      Agree.

      To add on to that, if there's an endless number and quantity of toys, they will only be played with in the ways they were intended to. Once a kid gets bored with a toy and can't just grab a new one, only then do they start making up their own games with them. That means the kids with lots of toys have less opportunity for the independent creativity and thought that makes free-play so much fun.

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  7. Millennial science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Overstating the obvious that everybody else already knew about for decades but millennials were too sheltered, entitled, and narcissistic to acknowledge or ask about, yet again.

  8. We limit the toys/session for our kids, and tips by Camembert · · Score: 1

    We have twins who are almost 1 year old. Already now, we limit the number of different toys on the playmat. You can see them indeed focusing better.
    I recently bought 2 bags of Megablocks by Fisher Price, kinda a Lego Duplo clone. So far we only gave them 1 set, and they are interested, not yet really building things, but examining the separate blocks, and interested when we put them together. I do hope that they soon start experimenting with building, it is good for creativity, spatial thinking and handiness. They can graduate to lego in a few more years
    Happy that they are also interested in toddler books, they pay attention when we read them aloud. Some toddler books are amazingly well done (usually the ones which are not terribly educational but more empathic, like This is a Cat). A fantastic book I recommend for other parents is Press Here. Our kids are a little too young, but I had great success with 1.5 year olds with it. It is truly a book they will want to explore with you multiple times.

  9. This is the same problem I have at work... by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm forced more and more to multi-task, and have a wider range of choices to make in any given day on the job. This has increased the overall output only slightly - primarily because my work requires research to get to the bottom of many questions - and has certainly eroded the quality of that output immensely - forcing 2nd passes across some items that are in error.

    I think sensory overload in all forms is a bad thing for human beings - regardless of their age.

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  10. Yes, Virginia, he publishes his toy research by tech-law-ny · · Score: 1

    Oops, never mind.
    Misread the headline as "Fewer Toys Gives Kids a Better Quality of Playtime, Santa Claims."

  11. Free-range parenting by slshdtisctrldbysjws · · Score: 1

    A toy presents a set of rules for play by its very nature. There are only so many things you can do with a toy before the object itself becomes irrelevant, and if you place importance on the object you cut off a whole range of free play.
    Which, to be stingingly honest, is the intent behind the entertainment industry, including toy makers. It's a form of social conditioning. Not unlike what the 'SJWs' say about Barbies, but they are generally very lacking in their interpretation of the scope of these measures. The toys just don't enforce "gender norms", they enforce the scope of a child's very humanity by relation to their social role, regardless of gender. They enforce an extremely irrational subordination to authority, a la "these are the rules, you must follow them, enjoy, or else you can't have any stimulation, because there is nothing else."

    That there is an object that play is centered around is not good. Play should be centered around the social and environmental interactions. A toy should just be any old thing that is lying around.
    This is in order to stimulate all parts of the mind, all the instincts, big and small, that make up the human mind. Children need free play to stimulate the various parts of their minds and bodies proportionally and to develop good mental and physical health.
    But when you raise children in urban/suburban 'pens', there isn't anything at all just lying around. It's a constrained, sterile environment. Unfortunately this is just something most of us just have to live with, not having the luxury of being able to move out into the country. So we have to be extremely, extremely careful about the toys we give our children and we have to go far out of our way to provide them with regular free play experiences.

    To be honest, kids absolutely need a natural environment to play in. Fields, woods, etc. They need to be able to range around unsupervised. It's a desperate need, every single day, it's not negotiable except at the cost of your child's development. Your children will be hurt deeply without these experiences. Do whatever you can to provide this for them.

    Check out this article, especially its references:
    https://www.psychologytoday.co...

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  12. If by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Toy = bible

    Then

    Better yet, get rid of the bible altogether, read the Bible, and live in the real world rather than the fantasy one you are creating. None of your bible can give you the eternal life that Jesus Christ can. Repent, sell all of your bible and give the money to the poor, then you can be born again in Jesus Christ to attain eternal life.

    If you want to spread religion, use religion-based reason and stop using logic-based reason. It was never meant to make sense with logic reason, and never will. Also, stop spamming in slashdot.

  13. Variety of variety-level [Re:Toys?] by Tablizer · · Score: 0

    Balance is important. Kids need some unstructured play and some structured play.

    Indeed! Mix it up. Allow them to play with all of the toys sometimes, but limit it to 1 or 2 at others. "Always do X" is suspect advice. Life requires different approaches at different times. And visit friends and relatives often who have different toys, or just to play with other kids without toys. Tag is a wonderful game that requires no toys.

    By rotating the environment, they learn how to focus when needed, but also how to handle chaos at times, which prepares one for jobs such as an assistant to a hyper politician who happens to have a short attention span. Could happen.

  14. Re:We limit the toys/session for our kids, and tip by slshdtisctrldbysjws · · Score: 1

    Take your kids outside, they aren't in the phase of development where interaction is paramount, they're in the phase where observation is! They need to see the natural world work. They need to see the land. They need to see plants, animals, streams, and weather. They need to see life and death.

    Don't coddle your children in an artificial playpen where a great proportion of their instinct and intuition has no place.
    Unless you WANT to sabotage them for some reason.

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  15. This applies to adults too by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 1

    The more toys you have as an adult, the less amusing they all collectively become. Duh. I gotta brand this entire post as totally obvious.

  16. stats 101 by tommeke100 · · Score: 1

    This really sounds like an experiment where the outcome is heavily steered.
    Thinking rationally, a child will already spend much more time checking out the different toys when there are many. I mean, 16 toys, that takes awhile to browse through. With fixed time, it's pretty obvious that a child will play more with one of the 4 toys than 16 toys.
    Also, nothing was said about the environment. Was the child brought in a new environment like a clean room where he encountered the toys for this first time, hence pushing him to explore?
    Also, what is the definition of "Quality of Playtime"? The child making up elaborate stories and role-play? This all sounds very subjective.

  17. Re:We limit the toys/session for our kids, and tip by Camembert · · Score: 1

    Of course we do that as well. It is AND, not OR.

  18. Fewer Toys Gives Kids a Better Quality of Playtime by identity_pi · · Score: 1

    This is good information. i remember rowing up where i only woods for toys. this actually made more creative. Unlike having toys that are already made. this is good read and brings back good old memories. shout outs from https://www.identitypi.com/ team

  19. As a dad, this is not surprising by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

    Fewer Toys Gives Kids a Better Quality of Playtime, Study Claims

    This is true. Purely annecdotal but my kids select to play with very few toys (out of the many toys they have, too many IMO, which I'm trying to get rid of.)

    If I could do it all over again, I would simply select few quality toys (in particular of the lego or painting types). Dolls, cars, and stuff, most of them remain unused at home.

  20. Oh boy, the "assault" continues by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    The war on anything traditional continues. Taking on giving toys to children, in an attempt to cancel out Christmas, another American & global tradition!

  21. Re:We limit the toys/session for our kids, and tip by coofercat · · Score: 1

    We used to do much the same with our twins. We'd pack up a bunch of toys and let them play with the other half. After a week or two, we'd rotate the toys around so they were seemingly playing with something new. It works really well when they have quite short memories. Now they're 4 we don't bother with that any longer. However, they're much better at finding something to do than when they were 1 (probably as well they can, because despite my best efforts, they do have a tonne of toys).

    As for Press Here - I concur it's a great book. I'll raise you 'You Choose', which has almost no words in it, and just some very packed pages of pictures where they have to pick the things they like the best. Kids telling you that they want to be a horse rider in the day and an astronaut at night is kinda nice :-)

  22. Quality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you measure quality? Fewer toys gave them more time with each toy, while more toys gave way to curiosity.

    But does more time with each toy really equal better quality?

    At that age, curiosity is how they learn - or rather, it's the only way they learn, adults with intact curiosity also learn simply by being curious.

  23. The case against Lego & Co. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    Before you guys through a fit: Yes, I was deeply into Legos myself and built many a adventurous contraption with Lego Technik (whatever the U.S. name of that is).

    However, developmental theory, especially in non-standard education systems, has it that the structure of Lego actually limits thinking outside or certain constraints and this is considered harmful for brain development below a certain age. No surprise here - Lego has strict limitations on order to be as "flexible" as it is.

    I'd go so far as to say to much Lego and not enough twigs, dirt, stones and trees emphasises single-mindedness and limits proficiency in social interaction. There are some minute aspects of my behavior and social standards that I can trace directly back to me spending hours and days with nothing but Lego and too little in nature. My affinity for IT may also have to do with this particular aspect of my childhood.

    The way we socially interact is very strongly linked to how we played and were able to play as a child. Brain research is unanimous on this. ...

    One of the best decisions of my youth was to trade in my C64 for a racing bike and start climbing as a major pastime. And these days forcing myself away from the keyboard and into social interaction with non-computer people has, ironically, greatly advanced my IT career. And still is.

    Bottom line: Lego and other highly "sophisticated" toys may be more harmful than you think and limit an individuals capabilities way later in life.

    My 2 eurocents.

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    1. Re:The case against Lego & Co. by SCVonSteroids · · Score: 1

      My 2 eurocents.

      Those are worth like what? $5CND?

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  24. Like much science, don't expect this publicized by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our consumer culture was never about quality of life, just quality of the economy. We are socially engineered to maximize consumption and being healthy conflicts with that.

    Science like this which is common sense to many people still has to be suppressed (often just by ignoring it) but when this gains too much attention you can expect counter measures that make big tobacco look pathetic. It likely has already gotten attention and funding for corrupt science has just begun so we can expect counter measures within a year. We may never hear about problems the authors of the study are having; it's not always clearly heavy handed. Depends on who is handling the P.R. machine.

    The scientist who found raisins were loaded with poison had hecklers smearing him everywhere he went. Attempts to discredit him as well. I only heard about it when he founded PRWatch as a result. I have met old ugly men professors who laughed at the prostitutes sent their way after they did something relatively minor but upset a local bigwig.

  25. Negative toys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since the summary doesn't tell us what the optimal number of toys is, I'm going to assume that fewer is always better. You might think that zero toys is as low as we can go; but we can go lower. The kids should make toys but not get to play with them. Negative toys! We have the perfect laboratory for this overseas. Those kids in the toy factories are getting the *best* playtime... unless the injection molding machine and the assembly conveyor count as toys, then it sucks.

    1. Re:Negative toys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey buddy. You need to stop huffing that gas. It can mess you up.

  26. Making them concentrate... by MaryannG · · Score: 1

    ...seems like what is going on here. Perhaps not having other options forces kids to come back to a toy or game that presented them with a challenge. I'm okay with this.

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  27. So like Google Play and App Store? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The flood of useless games makes the overall experience worse? Seems legit.