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NiceHash Hacked, $62 Million of Bitcoin May Be Stolen (reddit.com)

New submitter Chir breaks the news to us that the NiceHash crypto-mining marketplace has been hacked. The crypto mining pool broke the news on Reddit, where users suggest that as many as 4,736.42 BTC -- an amount worth more than $62 million at current prices -- has been stolen. The NiceHash team is urging users to change their online passwords as a result of the breach and theft.

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  1. The horse has run off... by sgage · · Score: 2

    "The NiceHash team is urging users to change their online passwords as a result of the breach and theft." ... quick! Close the barn door.

    Sheesh.

  2. The users are amazing by imidan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's truly bizarre to me, after looking at the Reddit thread, is all the people who are impatient that the app is shut down for 24 hours because they want to keep using it. This company just lost more than $60 million of its users' money, and the users are upset that there is a delay in them sending the company more of their money.

    What? You lost our $60 million?! Well, gosh, we'll give you more, but be more careful this time...

    1. Re:The users are amazing by war4peace · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well I "lost" 125 dollars there, but in reality I lost about 50 bucks which was how much the electricity bill for the miner will cost me.
      If this would have happened Saturday, my losses would have been zero.

      No biggie, only now I have to find another simple to use miner.

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      ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
    2. Re:The users are amazing by mobby_6kl · · Score: 2

      Lost like a quarter there. I tried mining on my aging desktop and despite running it for a day that's how much I "earned". Oh well, sucks for the others!

    3. Re:The users are amazing by CreamyG31337 · · Score: 2

      They lost their money, not the users. They can pay it back if they want to.
      People on reddit are mostly wanting nicehash back because their rigs are sitting idle and not earning anything.
      People that paid for hashing power are probably pissed, but I don't think you'll see too many people crying on reddit about that.

  3. Re:Apparently that's insignificant now by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it's beyond question that the irrationality has reached a fever pitch.

  4. Re:Let me be the first but not the last to say... by viperidaenz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Treat bitcoin like cash?
    Put it in the bank and you'll still get it all back back (with interest!) if the bank gets robbed?

  5. In an age digital currency... by CRB9000 · · Score: 2

    In an age of digital currency, the digital vaults are pilfered by digital thieves. Anonymous entities stealing anonymous currency. Now we need digital dye packs and a means of chasing the digital Bonnies and Clydes down the dusty digital backroads. The problem for the courts: If the currency is really recognized and it can't be traced, was anything really stolen? The defense raises only a slim shadow of doubt by reminding each and every juror about the pictures they lost when they last upgraded their phones. Maybe the coin is just mislaid?

  6. Re: I had $10 mined there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    On NiceHash, you mine hashes that are in turn sold to others for the purpose of minting new coins (and/or more sophisticated/creative purposes). NiceHash automatically selects an in-demand and valuable hash type for your system to calculate so that you can send the results back to NiceHash for sale, and you get rewarded on a regular schedule for your recent calculations. NiceHash won't assign your GPU/CPU to calculate hashes for Bitcoin, because that wouldn't pay. It will assign you hash types associated with hot altcoins, similar to what you'll see at the top of the chart a on whattomine.

  7. Grabs bucket of popcorn by quonset · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sits back and laughs at the comedy show.

    1. Re:Grabs bucket of popcorn by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      You know, I keep hearing how bitcoin is supposed to be this secure system. But yet it seems a new exchange is hacked every week and a assload of bitcoins is stolen. So my question is "how can i trust a currency that can't even secure its own financial hubs?"

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    2. Re:Grabs bucket of popcorn by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      This has always been the case

      No it hasn't. Banks are backed by insurance and regulations. If a bank is hacked or robbed I don't lose any of my personal money. It will be covered by insurance. I also have other legal options open to me. You don't have that with bitcoin or exchanges. If a exchange collapses or hacked your money is gone, end of story.

      The whole finance industry is run by sharks regardless of the currency they use. Right now the Federal Reserve is printing money and devaluing the money in your pocket as we speak. Do you trust that?

      That would be problem if it was true. The Federal Reserve doesn't print money just to print money. In the US and other western countries the monetary supply is carefully controlled. Most new dollars being printed are being used to replace a old dollar taken out of circulation. They do print a little overage to make up for destroyed and horded bills but that is a not a major problem. For a example of what happens when the government prints money with out control look no farther than Zimbabwe.

      In fact the federal reserve as been ordering pretty much the same number of bills over the last 10 years. There are some spikes and dips depending on the year but it all seems to average out. Even when they order more bills it doesn't mean those bills go in the circulation. If you read the following article you will see there are no $2 bills ordered in 2017 or for 2018. That is because there are enough still in storage from the 2016 bill run to cover those years.

      https://www.federalreserve.gov...

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    3. Re:Grabs bucket of popcorn by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      Oh good grief. I believe it because its true. Please take the tin foil hat off and come out of the basement.

      An I looked that up. That is nothing more than another tool to control the economy and keep things from getting out of hand.

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  8. Re:Let me be the first but not the last to say... by CreamyG31337 · · Score: 5, Informative

    When mining for them, you can let it collect earned BTC payments in a virtual wallet until you 'withdraw' it, paying a fixed transaction fee that is the lowest once you have 0.15 of BTC -- about $2000.
    Alternatively, you can let them pay a real external wallet directly, but you have to pay extra fees, will be paid less often, and some of the stats on their web page don't work as well. They talk about sending 1000 BTC or so every Friday which is probably to external wallets only.
    They also accept bitcoin payments to purchase hashing power. Hopefully, they have just lost a wallet for handling some types of transactions and they have a lot more BTC offline somewhere to cover their internal wallets they pretty much force you to use.

  9. Bitcoin is not for amateurs by Orgasmatron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Back when bitcoin went over a dollar for the first time, I noticed that people were unusually willing to steal it. For your own personal safety, you should absolutely not draw attention to your possession of bitcoin. If you do, you will be targeted. Not just drivebys and portscans, but actual they-are-after-me targeted.

    If you are unable to create distance between your identity and your identity as a bitcoin holder, like if you are doing a public project involving bitcoin, you absolutely positively must not let your security be amateur shit.

    The first thing you must do is establish ironclad multilayer operational security. If you don't know what that is, or don't know what it means in a bitcoin project, stop - you are not tall enough for this ride. That is actually intended to be a bit less offensive than it sounds at first. It just means that you are too young (inexperienced) to have good odds.

    There is no reason to have 10 bitcoins in an online wallet, much less 4600. Those keys should be printed on paper in a N-of-M scheme and distributed to the people who will be authorizing transactions.

    Yes, people should be processing transactions of that size, not computers. Ideally, the never-online signing computer software would print out the candidate transaction in a format that puts the recipient addresses and amounts in the exact same location as the request sheet so that you can visually diff the two (hold them up to a strong light to make sure they are the same) before unlocking the key and passing it on to the next signing agent.

    Never-online? Yup, there should be no electronic communication between the computer that occasionally has the signing keys decrypted in memory and the rest of the world. There are Free (and free) options for generating barcodes and QR codes and hardware scanners that can read them as keyboard input or virtual character device input. Generate the payment online, print it as a QR code. Scan it on the signing computer. Verify the transaction (human job!) Scan the key, type the passphrase to decrypt it. The signing computer can then print the signed or partially signed transaction as another QR code that you can take back to the online computer for sending (or sending to the next signer).

    If your security plan is not at least this good, you should under no circumstances be handing bitcoin that doesn't wholly belong to you and that you aren't willing to lose.

    On the other hand, it seems like millions of dollars of bitcoins get stolen from fools every few months and no one seems to care, so maybe I'm wrong and the level of "security" seen in the field is exactly right.

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    1. Re:Bitcoin is not for amateurs by indi0144 · · Score: 2

      BTC holders pray for (someones else) bitcoins to be stolen and lost forever. This is a pool, you cant just really have people on shift 24/7 pushing payments whenever a single miner reach the payment threshold.

      Your anal security protocol is worth exactly shit if some kid just stumbled upon the stacked wallet in the directory and just had to copy the private keys.

      You are aware that ALL PKs of ALL bitcoin wallets are already available online right? You just need some massive amount of luck to find one with a balance but they are out there, open for the world.

  10. Re:Inside job by indi0144 · · Score: 2

    1) not a trading site, a pool.
    2) Pot is never full, everyone cash out as soon as they can
    3) Proff of hacking?
    4) You cant just keep bitcoin you claim was stolen, the balance and transactions are open for the world to see.