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The First Women in Tech Didn't Leave -- Men Pushed Them Out (wsj.com)

An anonymous reader writes: A column on the Wall Street Journal argues that sexism in the tech industry is as old as the tech industry itself. At its genesis, computer programming faced a double stigma -- it was thought of as menial labor, like factory work, and it was feminized, a kind of "women's work" that wasn't considered intellectual (Editor's note: the link could be paywalled; alternative source). In the U.K., women in the government's low-paid "Machine Operator Class" performed knowledge work including programming systems for everything from tax collection and social services to code-breaking and scientific research. Later, they would be pushed out of the field, as government leaders in the postwar era held a then-common belief that women shouldn't be allowed into higher-paid professions with long-term prospects because they would leave as soon as they were married. Today, in the U.S., about a quarter of computing and mathematics jobs are held by women, and that proportion has been declining over the past 20 years. A string of recent events suggest the steps currently being taken by tech firms to address these issues are inadequate.

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  1. Re:Blame Men for Literally Everything by Locke2005 · · Score: 1, Troll

    I don't blame the men; I blame the men's mothers for not raising them right!

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  2. Re:First men in nursing? First men in Schoolteachi by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0, Troll

    Rather than guessing why not look at the research done into why there are not more male nurses?

    Bullying is a factor. Like women trying to get into tech and science, it's partly down to men being discouraged by teachers and parents. Partially social pressure, partly the low status of nursing making it an unattractive career (thus less motivation to overcome barriers to enter the profession).

    That's why it's worth looking at these issues, they affect men as well.

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  3. Re:This sexist drivel again by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's worrying that this story has been tagged "cultural Marxism" and "fake news". Someone apparently feels so threatened by what is largely considered an uncontroversial historical fact that they think it's an attempt to destroy our culture.

    Think about that. Do they think that remembering things used to be worse will harm us, that we are that fragile? Or do they want to white-wash the past so they can go back to the 1950 model society without resistance?

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  4. Re:This sexist drivel again by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0, Troll

    Indeed, a core part of the anti-feminist movent is this false narrative that men are being persecuted for imaginary crimes.

    They don't want to just say "we don't like being equal, there is more competition for jobs and I like being my wife's boss", so they have to manufacture a narrative to justify their demands.

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  5. Re:First men in nursing? First men in Schoolteachi by Mashiki · · Score: 1, Troll

    Mashiki, what did I tell you about making stupid assumptions about me?

    One doesn't make stupid assumptions by self-described male feminists who also call themselves allies.

    I was referring to bullying by women in my post. That's exactly what I meant. And as usual, you made an incorrect assumption that doesn't even make sense in this context.

    You should read more slowly then, then go pick up some teaching magazines from your local library(providing your council hasn't shut it down), and you'll figure out where you've gone wrong.

    I guess you don't follow UK news but in the last year at least three women went to jail for sex with children they were teaching (all teenagers). On the sex offenders register for life, obviously never going to be allowed to work with kids again. It's that what you mean by "slap on the wrist"?

    3 in the last year, that's pretty good. Of course, that's why there's such a problem where feminists rally around those women and defend them nearly unto death right?

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