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shanen writes: How many of you don't print much these days? What is the best solution to only printing a few pages every once in a while? Here are some dimensions of the problem...

Inexpensive printers: The cost of new printers is quite low, but how long can the printer sit there without printing before it dies? Lexmark and HP used to offer an expensive solution with integrated ink cartridges that also included new print heads, but... Should I just buy a cheap Canon or Epson and plan to throw it away in a couple of years, probably after printing less than a 100 pages?

Printing services: They're mostly focused on photos, but there are companies where you can take your data for printing. My main concerns here are actually with the costs and the tweaks. Each print is expensive because you are covering their overhead way beyond the cost of the printing itself. Also, most of the time my first print or three isn't exactly what I want. It rarely comes out perfectly on paper the first time.

Social printing: For example, are any of you sharing one printer with your neighbors via Wi-Fi? Do you just sneak a bit of personal printing onto a printer at your office? Do you travel across town to borrow your brother-in-law's printer?

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  1. What is the solution to printing rarely? by Gaygirlie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A laser-printer. I mean, the powder doesn't dry, it won't clog the nozzles and it's useable even 10 years later.

    1. Re:What is the solution to printing rarely? by omnichad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and it's useable even 10 years later.

      And that's not even just the hardware if you make sure it speaks an industry-standard language like PCL. No worries of the OS dropping support when it's a 5 years old.

    2. Re:What is the solution to printing rarely? by Greyfox · · Score: 2

      Very much this. I got a cheap color laser printer for $300 a couple of years ago and it's perfect. I'll let it sit for 6 or 8 months at a time and it'll still quite happily print something the moment I fire it up. Toner's about in the same ballpark as inkjet ink and I get a very reasonable number of pages out of it, even when doing a fairly high volume of pages and photos.

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    3. Re:What is the solution to printing rarely? by xfade551 · · Score: 2

      I went this way a couple years back as I got tired of spending ~$40 on print cartridges (because the old ones were dry) every time I wanted to print something (maybe 3-4 times a year, these days). Also, with a laser print out you can do a toner transfer from paper to other media, which enables you to make masks for hobby projects like custom printed circuit boards or artistic wood burning (pyrography).

    4. Re:What is the solution to printing rarely? by darkain · · Score: 5, Informative

      Exactly this. I manage a business that has a whole fleet of HP LaserJet 2100 printers manufactured between 1998 and 1999. There is still 100% fully supported drivers by HP For Windows 10 in both 32bit and 64bit environments. All of the printers were upgraded with the optional JetDirect network card ($10 or less on eBay usually), so they just connect to the network and just WORK. The toner cartridge and print head are one in the same, so replacing toner is basically replacing the majority of the components within the printer.

    5. Re:What is the solution to printing rarely? by AndyKron · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've got an old B/W laser that works on toner that's close to twenty years old.

    6. Re:What is the solution to printing rarely? by Provocateur · · Score: 2

      Agreed; and he said LASER Printer. Not Laserjet nor inkjet wannabes.

      We're talking laser here, newbies. As in

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      *THAT* kind of "up-his-crown jewels" death ray laser.

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    7. Re: What is the solution to printing rarely? by Miamicanes · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm surprised nobody in China (or even the US, since we're STILL pretty competitive for low-volume manufacturing) has started cranking out laser printers with copies of the 1990s-era LaserJet print engine. The patents have all expired, printing technology has gone basically nowhere in 20 years, and old LaserJet consumables are basically commodities by now. The HOME market for printers like this might be small, but small & medium-sized businesses (especially those who print a LOT) and schools would LOVE printers that cost a few hundred bucks, but had almost zero consumables cost.

      Worst-case, they'd have to get ISO to codify the consumables for the print engine & give a non-Trademarked name to PCL or PostScript, so they could advertise their standard-compliance without risking a lawsuit for Trademark-infringement.

      They could probably even start by giving the printer a "dumb" framebuffer, then do all the rendering/rasterization logic & printserver in a RasPi. So you'd buy the USB-interfaced dumb-framebuffer printer, and pair it with your own Pi-based printserver running GhostScript.

    8. Re:What is the solution to printing rarely? by harrkev · · Score: 2

      The toner cartridge and print head are one in the same

      Wait. When did laser printers start using a print head?

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    9. Re: What is the solution to printing rarely? by eth1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm surprised nobody in China (or even the US, since we're STILL pretty competitive for low-volume manufacturing) has started cranking out laser printers with copies of the 1990s-era LaserJet print engine.

      Yeah... those things never actually die, as far as I can tell. I used to work for a school that had some HP LJ 6MPs in the lab. By the time I got there, they'd already done 17 squillion pages, but were perfectly fine - just slow. The slowness led to them getting replaced (in about 2004), at which time I offered to buy one to take home. They said "just take it." I still have it, and it works perfectly, with the same toner cartridge that was in there when it was retired from the lab at school. It will still be printing come doomsday.

      Only problems I've ever had with it are that it only has a parallel port, which is getting really damn inconvenient to deal with, and it's short on memory, which leads to the occasional inability to print something.

  2. B&W Laser by omnichad · · Score: 2

    If you only print once or twice a month, the printhead will dry out. And buying anything with printheads built into the cartridge will still cost almost as much to resolve when dried out as a new printer. Go for a black and white laser. Printing services for anything else.

    I print just enough with my inkjet to be OK.

  3. Laser printers can sit a long time by Slugster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you don't get much, get yourself a cheaper black-only laser printer. There's some for ~$100 now if you shop around. The problem with inkjets is that the print heads dry out and clog if you don't use it regularly. And if you do use it regularly, then the ink cartridges cost a lot.

    Don't get me wrong, inkjet printers are fantastic for some purposes--but they are rather expensive to maintain.

    1. Re:Laser printers can sit a long time by Megane · · Score: 2

      The only problem with color laser printers is that they won't give photo-quality prints. Many years ago I tried to get my mom to use a color laser, and she hated it because it didn't have that 600dpi resolution. So she kept using clunky old inkjets that needed new cartridges every 3 or 4 months whether you used them or not, and "cleaning" seemed to use about a quarter tank of ink. Meanwhile, I weaned myself from printing during the 200x decade, and hardly print anything at all now unless it really needs to be a printed document.

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  4. Laser, all the way by Octorian · · Score: 2

    Seriously, just get a cheap laser printer, throw it in a corner somewhere, and don't worry about it. They even make small cheap ones.

    Ink jets dry out over time, and the ink costs more than the printer itself.
    Laser toner basically lasts forever, and can print far more pages. As a bonus, its easier to find laser printers with longer-lived interface protocols.

  5. Why buy? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's what the office printer is for.

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  6. Dot matrix all the way by j2.718ff · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My dad has a side business, and he uses a dot matrix printer for the invoices. He's been using the same printer for over 25 years, and I believe he's on his second printer ribbon. The printing isn't very dark, but it's perfectly readable.

  7. e waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    e waste i.e. throw away printers, monitor and the like end up in dumps in Asia where people melt them down for gold and poison themselves. Just create a cron job or calendar event remind you to 'exercise' your printer once a month. I have three and use one on a regular basis. The other two are an office application, scanner, fax copier, and color printer and one that prints well on CD and DVDs. I exercise them also.

  8. $2/page by kwelch007 · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you're spending $200 on a printer every couple of years, and only printing 100 or so pages during its lifetime, that's $2/page. Kinkos is probably looking like a cheaper alternative.

  9. Re:papyrus by msauve · · Score: 2

    You started out on the right track, but then went to laser printers.

    An Epson MX-80 is what he wants - the ribbons take years to dry out.

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  10. Thanx and a tip of the hat. In conclusion... by shanen · · Score: 2

    Very enlightening discussion. Basically I had ignored the laser printer option because I thought the upfront cost was too high and also wanted the option to print photos.

    Wait, I almost never print a photo, but just send the link. Given that the low-end laser printers are so low, now I'm pretty sure I can find a really good value on a laser printer if I keep my eyes open for a few months... No rush that I know of.

    Minor concerns do remain. WiFi printing from Windows 10, Mac OS, and Linux was not mentioned much. Also, not sure how much I should worry about the cartridge refill costs and long-term availability.

    However, all in all there was a lot of useful information and many interesting testimonials here. My thanks to all the contributors, for what little that's worth. Gratitude and a couple of bucks can still get you a cup of coffee?

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