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Number of Births in Japan To Hit Record Low in 2017 (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The number of births in Japan this year has fallen to is lowest since records began more than a century ago with about 941,000 new babies, the health ministry said on Friday, proof if any were needed that it faces an ageing and shrinking population. The number of births will be about 4 percent lower than last year and the lowest since the government started compiling data in 1899, the ministry said.

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  1. Bukkake! by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Stop it, your kids are confused. Never going to knock up their GFs/wives that way.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  2. Even worse for some European countries... by bogaboga · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For these countries, they will have to rely on immigration which some of them are already doing.

    I guess that in about 50 years, these countries' demographic makeup in terms of race will be very different.

  3. A lot of SOs by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The biggest reasons why this is a real issue are:

    1) This rate is not stabilizing anything - it's well below replacement rate, which means population is shrinking.

    2) Short term a shrinking population means fewer workers to pay into government funds to help the elderly,

    3) Fewer elderly with children mean more reliance on the state in old age.

    4) Fewer people mean shops have fewer customers, demand for housing drops, construction starts waning, economy goes down.

    5) Long term, what happens when a country cannot sustain a population? Eventually it becomes a totally different nation as others will eventually take it over. I guess if you don't care about the preservation of Japanese culture that's not a problem.

    If they were going to a sustainable level that would be one thing, but like I said what is happening is not sustainable without some really bad consequences.

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    1. Re:A lot of SOs by suutar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not enough to stabilize at current levels, but it can still stabilize at a lower number, once the elderly have passed on. The time between now and then will still be unpleasant, for all the reasons you mention, but it's not necessarily inevitable doom.

    2. Re:A lot of SOs by sgt+scrub · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1) This rate is not stabilizing anything - it's well below replacement rate, which means population is shrinking.

      Not all jobs need to be replaced. If nobody makes trash, nobody is needed to take out the trash.

      2) Short term a shrinking population means fewer workers to pay into government funds to help the elderly

      The aging people payed government funds per capita at expected higher numbers. There is now fewer people. If the government doesn't have the money to support the fewer people then they are screwing the people.

      3) Fewer elderly with children mean more reliance on the state in old age.

      Fewer means less. Fewer people need less assistance.

      4) Fewer people mean shops have fewer customers, demand for housing drops, construction starts waning, economy goes down.

      Economy is related to population, "per capita". You can't have a down economy if it is reduced at the rate of population decline.

      5) Long term, what happens when a country cannot sustain a population? Eventually it becomes a totally different nation as others will eventually take it over. I guess if you don't care about the preservation of Japanese culture that's not a problem.

      Their population isn't shrinking towards extinction.

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