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Lithuania Calls On EU To Stop Adjusting Clocks For Daylight Savings (theguardian.com)
AmiMoJo shares a report from The Guardian: Lithuania has said that it would push the European Union to abolish its law on daylight saving time, claiming that most people find it annoying to have to adjust their clocks twice a year. An opinion poll published this year showed that 79% of people in the nation of 2.8 million were against the annual ritual of adjusting clocks forward by one hour in the spring and then back an hour in the autumn. Proponents of daylight saving time, adopted at the beginning of the 20th century, say the longer evening daylight hours in the summer help save energy and bolster productivity. The European Commission said it was "currently examining the summertime question based on all available evidence."
OR we could have everyone keep time on their phones and have the phones automatically change the time by a few seconds every day!
This is probably my greatest idea ever.
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Daylight Saving Time is a great idea. Ditching it in the winter is the problem. Just keep it year round and eliminate the stupid changing.
Why do you think it matters if we call a certain time of day "8 A.M." or "9 A.M."?
I mean, I'm all for not changing times, and I don't really care what arbitrary point you set to be your "noon", but I can't see that it makes any difference. It's not like your body cares about how we define what hour it is.
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If you work until 5pm, and it gets dark at 5:10pm, you've swepnt all your daylight inside. If it gets dark at 6:10pm, at least you have a bit of daylight.
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Remember the Java DST bug?
How about the SWIFT hiccup when the time change got applied backwards.
Or how much it costs to update ever single time zone file on every computer in the world.
I am not advocating for or against DST - I'm advocating for pick you're poison and stick with it. Changing it and mucking around with it is expensive, consumes time I should be spending solving other problems, and is annoying.
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It's harmonised to make trade easier. All countries charge on the same day, although they still have their own timezones.
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So, what you're saying is that your employer doesn't realize that "4PM with daylight savings time" and "5PM with daylight savings time" are the exact same time?
I don't think "because people are complete and utter morons" is a good reason to keep doing DST.
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
Here's my proposed compromise: Keep the "fall back", but get rid of the "spring forward". Sure, it might take some getting used to, but I'm sure we'd manage it sometime over the next 24 years or so.
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Ah, so the old "it doesn't matter if the official time moves around, everyone will just have different office hours during daylight savings time, all move in unison (as companies have to work together) change signs/automated messages/websites and have Google recrawl the web" answer that ignores that the way we coordinate changes like that is... by having customary start/end times for businesses and shifting the clocks until we like where we end up.
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Gee, why not go on quadruple savings time then? You can have the sun out until 1AM!!
Or you could simply admit that DST is just a silly attempt at self-deception to get ourselves to do things earlier. If we want to do things in the sun after work, we need to go to work early and get out of work early. Lying to ourselves about the time is one of the most ridiculous ways imaginable to try to do this.
12 noon should be left as close as possible to true solar noon.
In future years, the idea that the government mandated that people lie to themselves about the time will seem as bizarre as the strangest medieval legal customs seem to us today.
If you think slashdot readers are especially stupid (a not unreasonable observation) you have not had much contact with the broader population.
I don't like shifting the clocks. I'm responding (in a hypersarcastic tone) to your dumb idea that 5pm DST = 4pm non-DST is relevant, when I'm talking about people working until 5, and the sun going down at 5:15, as though people will all univerally adjust their hours to make sense.
By all means, let's choose one time that works. I don't see why we wouldn't. But it has to take into account that most people will work 9-5, whenever we decide that the clocks should read 9-5. So it fucking matters.
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79% of europeans don't like adjusting their clocks twice a year. That's not the same as 79% of europeans want to stay on standard time year round. The article doesn't say if people prefer DST year round or Standard Time year round.
I find summertime to be much more pleasant anyway. But joke's on them: after the last switch to wintertime I never changed my hours. So now I go to work at 7:30, instead of 8:30. Sure, it's still dark, but at least I get to go home in daylight... Unlike the official time zone, which would have me arrive in the office and go home in the dark.
Shows what you know then. They only have the hottest women of all of Europe.
How about we get rid of the notion that people work 9-5 while we're at it. This would help reduce congestion on the roads and make it more likely that people will be able to take care of errands before or after work instead of having to use their lunch break.
There are many things that "people" find annoying, and would probably be overwhelming against them in opinion polls: paying taxes certainly, but also dying in car accidents because of working in the dark. Decisions shouldn't be taken by the people's belly; they should be based on rational evidence.
OR we could have everyone keep time on their phones and have the phones automatically change the time by a few seconds every day!
This is probably my greatest idea ever.
Please don't tell us any of your other ideas.
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At least that should be made simple by software. The meeting time should be UTC in the database, and both the client making, and the client receiving the meeting data should handle the conversions.
On the other hand, the synchronisation between Outlook and Sharepoint doesn's even handle DST correctly. When we tried that, our team birthdays wound up being from 23:00 to 23:00 in one half of a year.
>"Daylight Saving Time is a great idea. Ditching it in the winter is the problem. Just keep it year round and eliminate the stupid changing."
+1000
This. It should just never stop being summer time. Problem solved.
But stores have opening hours, public transport runs on a schedule, nurses work shifts, in all sorts of production facilities you need a whole staff to run the machinery. Or they're done just in time, like when a bakery makes fresh bread or you order a pizza.
Literally none of those operate on a 9-5 schedule! My local bakery opens from 8 AM to 8 PM. The light rail runs from 5 AM to 1 AM the next day. The hospital opens 24/7 so it literally doesn't matter when their shifts change.
Yes, the whole staff need to get there at the same time, but it really doesn't matter whether other businesses operate with the exact same schedule. In fact, most don't!