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UK Police's Porn-Spotting AI Keeps Mistaking Desert Pics for Nudes (gizmodo.com)

An anonymous reader quotes Gizmodo: London's Metropolitan Police believes that its artificial intelligence software will be up to the task of detecting images of child abuse in the next "two to three years." But, in its current state, the system can't tell the difference between a photo of a desert and a photo of a naked body... "Sometimes it comes up with a desert and it thinks its an indecent image or pornography," Mark Stokes, the department's head of digital and electronics forensics, recently told The Telegraph. "For some reason, lots of people have screen-savers of deserts and it picks it up thinking it is skin colour."
The article concludes that the London police software "has yet to prove that it can successfully differentiate the human body from arid landscapes."

144 comments

  1. I guess it's down to camels now: by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Funny

    One hump, or two?

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    1. Re:I guess it's down to camels now: by Stormwatch · · Score: 0

      What do you call a three-humped camel?

    2. Re:I guess it's down to camels now: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i dunno, what?

    3. Re:I guess it's down to camels now: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Pregnant!

    4. Re:I guess it's down to camels now: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A pregnant woman

    5. Re:I guess it's down to camels now: by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Beavis: That chick has three boobies!

      Butthead: That's her belly fartknocker.

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    6. Re:I guess it's down to camels now: by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Beavis: That chick has three boobies!

      Butthead: That's her belly fartknocker.

      You mean they weren't watching Total Recall?

    7. Re:I guess it's down to camels now: by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      And how many toes?

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    8. Re:I guess it's down to camels now: by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      All the humps. I love fucking sand!! It got in my wife's Yahoo one summer and now I can't stay erect without it. We are divorced, but nothing sends me over the moon like sand dunes. In the shape of tits. Or hyperbolae. Or straight lines. Or curved straight lines. Or sandboxes.

      Hmmmm sand box.

    9. Re:I guess it's down to camels now: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flash, Flash, hundred yard dash.

    10. Re:I guess it's down to camels now: by quenda · · Score: 1

      Camels? ... Oh!
        I was thinking of cherries on ice-cream scoops.

    11. Re:I guess it's down to camels now: by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      Ah. An arenophile. How ... quaint.

      I didn't think there were many people left who were willing to admit to being a sand-botherer in public. Not since the convictions of the pavement-masturbator.

      Not one of the above concepts is invented - all real "kinks".

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  2. Eeeeeh?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ""For some reason, lots of people have screen-savers of desert"

    Are they really openly admitting to RAT-surveilling everyone?! What am I missing?

    1. Re:Eeeeeh?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their whole-UK-Screen-with-skin-color-detection is easily fooled by using body paint. Everybody should shudder at the smurfy implications.

    2. Re:Eeeeeh?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He probably means wallpaper rather than screensavers, and he's probably just referring to finding a lot of them crawling the web. Nothing to see here (except deserts).

    3. Re:Eeeeeh?! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      This seems to be an automated porn scanner that they can throw on a PC they collected as evidence. I guess the idea is to save them some time looking for porn manually.

      I seem to recall that deserts were one of the Windows 7 wallpaper packs. Windows 8 had them too and included by default, and Windows 10 displays a random landscape from Bing on the login screen.

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  3. UK police scanning your screen saver images! by HornWumpus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    WTF are police doing scanning the images used for screen savers? Those aren't, generally, on a public server.

    It the UK cops have a trojan on UK computers, I think the rest of the world should get to work burying their servers in noise. Antivirus definitions need updating ASAP.

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    1. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was my first question as well. Are there so many captured computers that they need an algorithm to sort though the contents and the associated false positives or is the net much much wider.

    2. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My thoughts exactly. WTF are they doing on your computer. I can maybe see sifting through what you're actively browsing, but going through your pc without consent? What in THE f...

    3. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

      Who is General Failure and what is he doing reading my hard drive?

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    4. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by mikael · · Score: 1

      Most Windows distributions come with Remote Administration enabled. That allows for remote monitoring. A relative had a problem with her PC, called up technical support and got a technician to fix her PC remotely. She saw the cursor whizzing around, windows opening and closing, text being typed in. She thought it was marvelous. Didn't quite understand that meant anyone could be monitoring what she typed. Then some applications seem to stream telemetry via Amazon Web Services (AWS). Even a web browser has access to the root window.

      It's easy enough for the police to scan through the various websites that allow free downloading of screen backgrounds. In the past, even those websites has problems trying to implement porn filters that would allow basketball teams to be permitted, but not porn.

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    5. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He is the superior of Major Malfunction, and he is looking for Private Pictures.

    6. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by Sesostris+III · · Score: 2

      Reading the articles it seems that the police are using the AI to search through the machines of _suspects_. This implies that they have custody of the suspect's physical machines.

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    7. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay so there are some false positives. Does this really mean they need more people to sort the results because there is no way the algorithm alone will be enough for a conviction. I would think the bigger problem is "Is that person in the picture 18 or 17?"

    8. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by QRDeNameland · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just hope they don't call in Colonel Panic.

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    9. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Reading the articles

      GET OUT!

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    10. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Okay how's this for an idea: FUSE python and PIL to generate an infinite directory tree containing random image data which matches the skin filter without being actually pornographic...

    11. Re: UK police scanning your screen saver images! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither. From the looks of it they are 20,000 years plus depending on the desert.

    12. Re: UK police scanning your screen saver images! by guruevi · · Score: 1

      This is the UK, they correctly pronounce.

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    13. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Okay so there are some false positives.

      The reason for the false positives is almost certainly a dearth of desert pictures in the NN training set. So download 10,000 desert images, and retrain.

      Does this really mean they need more people to sort the results because there is no way the algorithm alone will be enough for a conviction.

      Umm. The purpose of the program is to flag suspicious images for human review. There is no fricken way that the program's output is going to be directly admissible in court.

    14. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by esperto · · Score: 1

      At least they definetly should call Private Browsing, his already seem too much heavy stuff.

    15. Re: UK police scanning your screen saver images! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're assuming they're using machine learning. You're assuming they're paying attention, and capable of not getting fooled by some lowest bid contractor who actually detects "porn" by looking at images' average colour.

    16. Re:UK police scanning your screen saver images! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      In this case it sounds like they need to call on Private Browsing.

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    17. Re: UK police scanning your screen saver images! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any cop who willingly works on a kiddie porn investigation team should be assumed to be a pedo. I mean, they found a job where they get paid to look at that crap.

  4. So-called 'AI's are GARBAGE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until we have fully conscious, self-aware, general AI that can think, all we're going to get is trolled by the hype of marketing assholes who only care about making the sale, and couldn't care less if the gods-be-damned thing actually works. Even then, in this case, no AI will EVER be able to differentiate between 'art' and 'pornography' -- because HUMANS can't even agree on that. This is the real danger of so-called 'AI's: people will be fooled into believing they actually work, when in fact the family pet will have better and more accurate cognitive ability than any of this bullshit.

    1. Re: So-called 'AI's are GARBAGE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The AI works perfectly, the story authors just don't want to admit that Mother Nature is a whore.

    2. Re:So-called 'AI's are GARBAGE by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Zo thinks about as well as Helen Keller did.

  5. Hot dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or not hot dog.

  6. "Some reason?" You mean Windows defaults? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'd think they'd use the images shipped with the world's most widely deployed desktop operating system in their baseline training.

  7. BARE NAKED DUNES WAITING FOR YOU! by SeaFox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    African, Asian, European desert lands all uncovered and untouched by man. Clean shaven of all foliage. Aching for a BBC (big black camera) to shoot all over their majestic vistas. They want long lenses and offer roads for deep penetrations into their wildest areas. Only $9.95/mo gets you all access to hours of video and thousands of pictures. Round, brown mounds of dirt, golden, flowing sands, fiery red sunsets are all waiting for you!

    1. Re:BARE NAKED DUNES WAITING FOR YOU! by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "Round, brown mounds of dirt, golden, flowing sands, fiery red sunsets are all waiting for you!"

      Don't forget the snake holes.

    2. Re:BARE NAKED DUNES WAITING FOR YOU! by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      To each their own, but you can keep your strip malls. It's only bush country for me.

    3. Re:BARE NAKED DUNES WAITING FOR YOU! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been wondering for a while what "earthporn" means. Thanks for the explanation.

    4. Re:BARE NAKED DUNES WAITING FOR YOU! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha this got moderated as Interesting

  8. A naked person in a desert kills the system ... by brainchill · · Score: 1

    A picture of a nude person in a desert must render this thing catatonic ;)

    1. Re:A naked person in a desert kills the system ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nah, it'll just misclassify it and move on.

    2. Re:A naked person in a desert kills the system ... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Nobody likes a sandy vagina.

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    3. Re:A naked person in a desert kills the system ... by quenda · · Score: 1

      Nobody likes a sandy vagina.

      Africans do, apparently.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/hea...
      https://www.vice.com/en_au/art...

  9. In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The software acts like an 18-year old male.

    1. Re:In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other news, Mr Plod cant tell a desert from a nude either, so probably the training program was a bit naff.

    2. Re:In other words by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Once you've fed "Paradise (1982)" into the AI, all arid scenes will trigger that response. It doesn't matter the age. Same as humans.

  10. How are they getting access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to peoples screen-saver's in the first place?

    1. Re:How are they getting access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      through the backdoors the merkin government insisted on,

  11. The big question by Teun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The big question is why the hell do they bother to detect nudes?
    I would even ask why the hell do they want to spot pornography?

    Both are very common human expressions and they should not be a reason for police investigation.

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    1. Re:The big question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? The government answer is always "we do it to protect the children".

    2. Re:The big question by Sesostris+III · · Score: 1

      I think what they are looking for specifically are images of Child Sexual Abuse. (Which is not pornography, it is abuse, which is why the police are involved).

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    3. Re:The big question by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Considering that they're specifically examining the computers of people suspected of harming children, it would make a lot of sense that it would be done with the goal of protecting those children.

      It is one thing if what they're doing has nothing to do with children, and they use it as an excuse anyways. But if it does involve children, and you're saying that anyways, it makes me wonder if they should be looking at your computer, too!

    4. Re:The big question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I imagine the ultimate goal of this software is to automatically detect childhood abuse pictures on seized computers. This way they don't have to traumatize and burn out human staff on visually checking the images on a computer. It also saves them the time of having to look through the millions of pictures (mostly cats) possibly hosted on the average computer.

    5. Re:The big question by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think what they are looking for specifically are images of Child Sexual Abuse.

      Well, if they're doing it by looking for a superabundance of Caucasian skin tones, they're doing a fucking horrible job of it. And apparently black kids don't count.

    6. Re:The big question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think what they are looking for specifically are images of Child Sexual Abuse. (Which is not pornography, it is abuse, which is why the police are involved).

      And yet in no other case in our entire legal code is mere possession of photographic or video evidence of a crime itself a crime. Pictures of ISIS beheading people in Syria? Totally legal. Picture of dead body at scene of drive by shooting? Totally legal. Why should this one crime be carved out from among all of the others as a special case? Perhaps you would argue that victims of abuse suffer knowing that images of that abuse are still out there but then do the victims of other crimes suffer less? Is one form of suffering more privileged than another? Does the fact that people suffer trump free speech? These are legitimate questions that have not to my knowledge been adequately answered by our legal system, mostly because we as a society don't want to talk about it. The justice system is no better than we are collectively and yet people place it on a high pedestal of logic and reason.

    7. Re:The big question by Kjella · · Score: 1

      The big question is why the hell do they bother to detect nudes? I would even ask why the hell do they want to spot pornography? Both are very common human expressions and they should not be a reason for police investigation.

      Limited time and resources? Here's a suspect's computer, it has 10k images on it. Run it through the system and rank the photos most likely to contain illegal pornography. I'd be surprised if they didn't try to make some kind of automated ranking. Narrowing it down to porn would be a start. That said, if they're triggering on deserts they must be doing something really stupidly like training it exclusively on porn - which would have a lot of those colors - and then trying to apply that to general images. That sounds more like a stupid porn filter from the 90s than an AI project from 2017. My guess is that someone slapped AI on it and got funding....

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    8. Re:The big question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The big question is why the hell do they bother to detect nudes?

      I would even ask why the hell do they want to spot pornography?

      Both are very common human expressions and they should not be a reason for police investigation.

      Yes, one would think or know by now after many thousands of years. We live in interesting times though.

    9. Re:The big question by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      They say they're scouting for child porn. How can their software tell the difference between an adult body and a child body if it can't differentiate a nude from a dune?

    10. Re:The big question by Agret · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I imagine the ultimate goal of this software is to automatically detect childhood abuse pictures on seized computers. This way they don't have to traumatize and burn out human staff on visually checking the images on a computer. It also saves them the time of having to look through the millions of pictures (mostly cats) possibly hosted on the average computer.

      Yes it would save them time of having to look through millions of pictures but the software cannot alone be used to form a conviction. At some point a real person is going to have to review the images to confirm their contents as flagged by the computer. This won't prevent trauma and burn out on human staff but will speed up investigations greatly.

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    11. Re:The big question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nude detection can be used to identify child porn. they use images of faces to till age of the human. i propose if two human shapes are in the image one huge and one smaller the smaller is a kid and hints there is child porn. to my knowledge no one uses if two bodys are in a image comparing their size and they should since not alll images have cear faces of the children in child porn

    12. Re:The big question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it probably only detects nudity to narrow the search down. However if you take a face of a child the distance of eyes i think tells the persons age. My suggestion is that if there are two human body structures in an image and one is smaller that the other that in fact the smaller one is a child and hints child porn. that way they can detect child porn that does not have the child's face in the image too.

    13. Re:The big question by fafalone · · Score: 1

      Looking for CP is just the excuse, since we're nowhere near an AI that could distinguish between a naked child and naked adult, especially since we insist on calling teenager sexts CP. Consider where this is-- the UK, where they have a long standing history of trying to restrict adult porn too.

    14. Re:The big question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there are age detectors... i doubt they are using them though

    15. Re:The big question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there are age guessers that use the distance between eyes to guess the age. i suggest if two bodies are in a image and one is smaller then the other it is a child and hints child porn too

  12. Computer is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Desertophilia !!

  13. Legit usage by Ecuador · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is legit usage cases for this software. I, for one, would not trust people who jack off to images of deserts. They should be put on some police list of some sort, so that I know to avoid them.

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    1. Re:Legit usage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is legit usage cases for this software. I, for one, would not trust people who jack off to images of deserts. They should be put on some police list of some sort, so that I know to avoid them.

      Still, some people like to see pretty girls in bikinis on a beach. Anybody who thinks that's a sexy location has either never had the experience or a has fetish about fucking grindstones. Whichever it is, avoid these freaks.

    2. Re:Legit usage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They will get their just deserts

  14. Re: FRIST PSOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People are posting here more than 30 minutes before you, but sure you are the first !

  15. I played San Andreas.... by The123king · · Score: 1
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  16. Would that be "white" sand? by blindseer · · Score: 1

    Racists!

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  17. It's a simple coding error by bobstreo · · Score: 5, Funny

    DUNE is a misspelling of NUDE.

    1. Re:It's a simple coding error by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Nude.
      Nude Messiah.
      Children of Nude.
      God Emperor of Nude.
      Heretics of Nude.
      Chapterhouse: Nude.

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    2. Re:It's a simple coding error by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Funny coincidence, I read the Dune series when I was 14, too!

      I think my reading went about the same way. Never figured out what the boring parts were supposed to be.

    3. Re:It's a simple coding error by Calydor · · Score: 2

      Oh, it gets better.

      The series was translated into my native language. The titles as well.

      Do you know what a dune is called in Danish?

      Klit.

      I'm not joking.

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  18. Maybe the cops aren't admitting something? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a hooker and beach body ready. Maybe this confused their algorithm. Like, guys? Eyes on the job!

    P.S. If the cops want to peep at my pictures they can pay for them like everyone else.

  19. Re: FRIST PSOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First in the suckitude ranking.

  20. That desert pic in TFA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is pretty close to a photo that was on the inside covers of a high school yearbook. Many students penciled in nipples on two dunes, it looked just like a slender woman's body after adding nips.

  21. the ai is not wrong they are forgetting about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    rule 34?

  22. Obesity by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    Perhaps this says something about the obesity epidemic...

  23. Re:the ai is not wrong they are forgetting about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To preserve morale during long-haul missions, all male officers above the rank of First Technician must, during panto season, be ready to put on a dress and a pair of false breasts ??

  24. It found my creimer pics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and now I'm classified a zoophile. Thanks a lot.

  25. AI? by fluffernutter · · Score: 0

    They're expecting AI to be able to tell the difference between an under-aged nude and an adult nude? Wow that's going to take a long time.

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    1. Re:AI? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      No, they're not trying to get the computer to do all the police work, they're just trying to use it to narrow it down to nude images so that the amount of work they have to do is much smaller. This is for searching people who are already suspects.

    2. Re:AI? by Altrag · · Score: 1

      Generally speaking they're not going to be trying to distinguish a 17 year old from an 18 year old. They're going to be trying to distinguish a 10 year old from an 18 year old. And there's definitely some obvious physiological differences there (in most instances.)

    3. Re:AI? by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      You just think it's easy because you're human and take for granted how very subtle the visual cues are.

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    4. Re:AI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there are age detector that use the face of a child and the distance I believe between eyes to till the age.

    5. Re:AI? by Altrag · · Score: 1

      That's kind of my point. Its not easy, even for a human, to distinguish a 17 year old from an 18 year old based on pure visual clues. But other than extreme cases of precocious puberty its usually pretty easy for a human to tell a 10 year old from an 18 year old. Meaning that at least in principle, the latter should be doable by a smart enough AI (which is not saying such an AI is necessarily easy to build of course. Just that it should be possible based on how easy it is for us humans to do the job.)

  26. No one else is bothered by this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No one else is bothered by the fact the UK (and probably the US also) government can easily scan everyone's hard drives? I knew there was a reason they were giving Windows 10 for free when it was released.

  27. Is there something left unsaid here? by zuki · · Score: 1

    I mean, correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the only way to see what images people have on their desktops mean that the Metropolitan Police are poking around and doing some sort of unauthorized remote access into peoples' machines?

    How else would they become aware of the types of screensavers people are using? Not sure but I find this more than slightly creepy.

    Is this more of that famous Nanny State® at work again? "Think Of The Children" gone wrong...

    1. Re:Is there something left unsaid here? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I mean, correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the only way to see what images people have on their desktops mean that the Metropolitan Police are poking around and doing some sort of unauthorized remote access into peoples' machines?

      Where did you dredge up the word "unauthorized?" Why do you just presume that? Did you even know that child sex abuse is illegal, and that a warrant granted to search for evidence of the crime would be a legit authorization? Surely this is a tool to help the Metropolitan police poke around during authorized access.

    2. Re:Is there something left unsaid here? by Altrag · · Score: 1

      He gets it from the TFS being kind of misleading and making it sound like the police are scanning everyone's computers.

      Which may of course be authorized if the government is shitty enough.. and not implausible in the UK these days as there's been a push there for full-on surveillance state for 5 or so years now.

    3. Re:Is there something left unsaid here? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I'm uncertain what is more creepy, the police remotely accessing your computer to check your screen saver, or people having child porn pictures as screen saver.

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    4. Re:Is there something left unsaid here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely this is a tool to help the Metropolitan police poke around during authorized access.

      Not defending KP, but the Metropolitan Police should not even exist, let alone be authorized to do anything.

      Captcha: eighteen

    5. Re:Is there something left unsaid here? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      When you're not presented with a boundary, don't assume an absolute is implied.

    6. Re:Is there something left unsaid here? by Altrag · · Score: 1

      And with the way governments around the world have been going in the past few years with regard to mass surveillance, failing to at least consider the absolute would be naive.. sometimes even when you are presented with a boundary.

    7. Re:Is there something left unsaid here? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      No, extremist hyperbole does not actually change the logical value of fake absolutes at all.

      It is only the shape your stupidity takes, it is not any sort of excuse.

  28. Obligatory Arrested Development by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On Arrested Development, a close-up photo of a man's balls was mistaken for Iraq desert! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=23_CbPZ3264

  29. Spotted Dick by WhoBeDaPlaya · · Score: 1

    is delicious! :)

  30. I misread "dessert" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aren't dessert pics kinda pornographic? :)
    I forgot about those chocolate bars but my brain didn't...
    (Related question: What does the loli pop?)

  31. Skin detection algorithm by thygate · · Score: 1

    I came across an extremely simple skin detection algorithm some time ago and made a GLSL implementation. Check here for a demo and explanation (click about). http://labs.thygate.com/amazin... It is actually quite robust if the lighting conditions of the scene don't change too much.

    1. Re:Skin detection algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Standard armature attempt. You missed all the primary cases. The majority of the population isn't white. Since you trained on one skin color, your algorithm will perform extremely poorly in the real world and people will sue you for racial discrimination. To detect skin you need to first find the people, determine clothing coverage, then check the uncovered areas for color.

      We can tell the police are primary basing their search on color since deserts look nothing like people. For porn, you need to train to identify people then determine their clothing and stance. There can be child abuse images with the kids wearing clothing. The action determines if it's abuse or not. Some porn is gray scale. Relying on skin color is completely the wrong approach.

    2. Re:Skin detection algorithm by thygate · · Score: 1

      which was all explained in the about text if you had cared to read it.

    3. Re:Skin detection algorithm by sheramil · · Score: 1

      I came across an extremely simple skin detection algorithm some time ago and made a GLSL implementation... It is actually quite robust if the lighting conditions of the scene don't change too much.

      How robust is it if the subject is clad from head to toe in black latex?

      As for deserts, google image search "sexy iceberg".

    4. Re: Skin detection algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most criminals are not white.

      The entire world is full of brown/black subhumans, drowning in a tidal wave or crime, violence and sexual abuse.

      While a tiny percentage of whites do commit crimes, in the worldwide scheme of things it's a literal drop in the bucket.

    5. Re:Skin detection algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      once network routers or network appliances can tell child porn from porn by using faces to till age you can scan the internet web traffic or tor traffic and catch people. now it runs on computers but the hope is it can filter web traffic and catch more of these child abuse images

      i suggest you use age identification on faces to till childdren which ha been used before. and also tell if images have small bodies and large bodies in them.. the small bodies being kids.

      your technology in a router or network appliance would be a great tool for detecting tor traffic or web traffic of child abuse images

  32. Fiery Red Sunsets, Limited Availability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Depending upon the presence of the winter Sun in equatorial latitudes.

  33. Re:BARE NAKED GAYFERS WAITING FOR YOU! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like a gay porn scene to me

  34. Yeah, mistaking a desert for porn. by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

    What are they thinking?
    banana split

  35. SCREEN SAVER!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are the police doing where they have access to a screen saver???
    Are we all fully infiltrated, all of the time?
    What prevents the placement of a file or directory on someones computer if the police have this type of access?
    The world we live in is that of Pizzagate, but here we are again reporting on the common man, who know they are in grasp, and obey the law.
    Kalu Yuga, this is the time we live in, inverted by the devil.

  36. It isn't wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please no one show it the quantum of solace intro sequence!!!

  37. Two reasons by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    first, Christians. There's a concept I call "Aggregate Sin" because I can't think of a better name for it. Christians (the ones who take the Bible literally) believe that if there's too much sin in the world God will punish us. e.g. God punishes the Faithful for the sins of the heretic. Therefore sin, any sin, is an existent threat to them. If you extrapolate from the tales of Sodom & Gomorrah & Noah's Ark this makes sense. You see this most commonly when a natural disaster strikes and a bunch of them come out of the wood work to claim it's the Lord punishing us for sinning. The important thing here is to understand that the Lord isn't very picky about who he punishes. This incentivizes Christians to control non Christian behavior; up to and including converting them. It's a big part of why Christianity spreads the way it does.

    As for the other reason, well the entire system is designed to keep the working class' attention somewhere else while the Aristocracy pockets all the money. It's a classic technique (along with Balkanization, usually along racial or caste divides but sometimes along ideological, e.g. wedge issues). Basically, if 1% of the populace is going to take 50-90% of the wealth for themselves they have to create all sorts of crazy systems to make that work.

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    1. Re:Two reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nah he just can't aim very straight thats why he keeps hitting Texas instead of San Francisco

      or he hates those xistian fuckwits the same as every one else.

    2. Re:Two reasons by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Haven't they heard the good news about Sithrak?

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    3. Re:Two reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't they heard the good news about Sithrak?

      The on-topic porn one was a couple of frames back.

    4. Re:Two reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't they heard the good news about Sithrak?

      The on-topic porn one was a couple of frames back.

      Never mind, I just checked a few more.

  38. 50 R - G 250 by thygate · · Score: 1

    Allow me to further elaborate as to WHY i found this algorithm so interesting, because it's so ridiculously simple. It considers a pixel is skin if 50 R - G 250, where R and G are the red and green channels from a 8-bit RGB pixel representation. Sure it's not meant for the prime-time, it's just a very interesting curiosity, and easy to perform in parallel.

  39. Re: 50 < R - G < 250 by thygate · · Score: 1

    darn html got filtered of < symbols.

  40. Deserts and Virgins by wolfheart111 · · Score: 1

    Damb there in there somewhere... all 70 of em.

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    1. Re:Deserts and Virgins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "damb"? Huh? Anyways... Why do you have 70 pictures of creimer?

  41. muh cgi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Muh cgi kid renders look almost real atm. ;)

  42. This is a tremendous advance! by RhettLivingston · · Score: 1

    It has gone beyond dreaming and is seeing mirages!

    1. Re:This is a tremendous advance! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd be seeing things too if you had just trained on over a million nudes.

  43. Deserts in Nevada are legal... by burhop · · Score: 1

    ...in you are into that.

    1. Re:Deserts in Nevada are legal... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      Oh no, Mojave desert is very young compared to most, only 10,000 years ago there were lakes and marshes there. Only the millions of years old deserts should be attractive to you, you pedo!

  44. Bad programmers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should hire better programmers,sounds like the AI is very badly made. UK scans people's computers?

  45. georgia o'keeffe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I know why georgia o'keeffe work gets me so aroused, I must be an AI

  46. You would think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the people distributing this stuff surely would use negative images to fool basic skin tone capture

  47. Am I the only one? by bothorsen · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one who read desserts?

    1. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Am I the only one who read desserts?

      Probably. Most of us just eat them.

  48. more people need to be using skin moisturizers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    more people need to be using skin moisturizers. That would solve the problem.

  49. humans, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quite likely the reason that humans like pictures of desert dunes is also that they trigger parts of the brain that respond to nude people. This is a feature!

  50. Maybe it's dyslexic by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's dyslexic, and can't tell the difference between small nudes and small dunes.

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  51. Legs or Hot Dogs? by rHBa · · Score: 1
  52. Re:50 R - G 250 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you train a simple logistic regression or SVM model on image data where the images are represented in pixels, it would return something like that. Dumbing down the final model could then give a simple rule like 50R - G250, and this kind of dumbing down is known to be surprisingly effective in many cases.

  53. ooh by BrandonGinn · · Score: 1

    hot sandy mounds

  54. Daft Punk's Electroma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This reminds me of Daft Punk's Electroma where at some point during a long desert scene it shows a slow pan towards a vagina complete with pubic hair that looks like scrub on top of a hill.

  55. It's Haiku time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see the desert
    as a beautiful woman
    without any clothes

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