China Closes More Than 13,000 Websites in Past Three Years (reuters.com)

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China Closes More Than 13,000 Websites in Past Three Years (reuters.com)

Posted by msmash on Monday December 25, 2017 @01:30PM from the my-way-or-highway dept.

China has closed more than 13,000 websites since the beginning of 2015 for breaking the law or other rules and the vast majority of people support government efforts to clean up cyberspace, state news agency Xinhua reports. From the report: The government has stepped up already tight controls over the internet since President Xi Jinping took power five years ago, in what critics say is an effort to restrict freedom of speech and prevent criticism of the ruling Communist Party. The government says all countries regulate the internet, and its rules are aimed at ensuring national security and social stability and preventing the spread of pornography and violent content. A report to the on-going session of the standing committee of China's largely rubber stamp parliament said the authorities had targeted pornography and violence in their sweeps of websites, blogs and social media accounts, Xinhua said.

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Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 13:53 · Score: 5, Interesting

What I don't understand is, why does China's government even *care* about porn? It's an atheist state that theoretically was spared the neurotic hang-ups Christianity has inflicted on the rest of the world.
Ditto, for China's official opposition to homosexuality & gay rights. With China's goal of limiting population growth & keeping people content, you'd think it would actively *encourage* guys who like dick to stick to guys... fewer babies, and more women for the men who genuinely *want* a woman.
China has a *serious* problem with its lopsided male-majority population. If every single woman in China married one man, something like 5-10% of its population would never be able to have a Chinese wife because too many women aborted female babies back in the 70s & 80s because they wanted their one (and only) child to be a son. Those men are a far bigger threat to China's social order than porn and gay people could *ever* be.
1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 14:03 · Score: 0, Redundant
  
  Regulating porn gives them an 'in' to regulate everything and anything. You get the infrastructure in place, and get people accustomed to the idea that one of the government's responsibilities is to protect them online. You regulate porn for the public good, and in addition just happen to take down anything else that you want without a huge public outcry about it, because it's pretty much just business as usual, government doing what government does.
2. Re:Why? by AHuxley · 2017-12-25 14:15 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Communism does not like the mind of their workers been polluted by decadent outside influences.
  Entertainment, fiction, science fiction, art, culture all takes time away from the teachings of Communism.
  It weakens the society and results in people escaping inwards after work. Less of a communist community results as more people withdraw into their own self centred and selfish pastimes after work.
  
  Another reason why Communism hates and censors everything creative or fun is to keep CIA/MI6 backed NGO's, ideas, hobbies, lifestyles and artists out of China.
  They spread lifestyles what weaken workers and disrupt the communist way of life with ideas of voting, creativity, freedom, democracy and the rule of law.
  Imagine not going to work in China in a mil uniform and having to work for the mil all day for a low wage? Starting your own company and not having to ask the mil/party if you can sell, export, attend a conference, go to another nation to get a real education? Not having the Communist party have a say over housing, health care, your pension, mmil service, work and education?
  Communist ideology does not like that kind of disruption to its workers. So it censors anything that can upset and disrupt its hold on power.
  Censorship stops the CIA/MI6 from trying a color revolution in China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
  
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3. Re: Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 14:22 · Score: 0
  
  They don't want their citizens to see the size of Western penises
4. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 14:31 · Score: 0
  
  ..because China understands that porn destroys the fabric of society.
  IF (extremely unlikely scenario) the US was to "clean up" the web, a lot of profitable $h!t would have to be closed down, and the Dollar speaks loudest as the (actual official) religion of America. Though it is too late to clean up the mortally wounded "West". Needs a 'start over' button like some half-boiled frogs want to see on FB.
5. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 14:50 · Score: 0
  
  Who do all communist rulers dress in Hillary Clinton suits?
6. Re: Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 15:07 · Score: 0
  
  Yet they desire for the African wealth. Maybe they haven't learned the size of an average African penis yet? (image of a petite female Red Army soldier in a bottomless uniform, revealing her tiny cleavage to a huge, dark male member while riding on another just slipped in my mind, entirely accidentally)
7. Re:Why? by whoever57 · 2017-12-25 15:36 · Score: 1
  
  How many years ago did you register that username, intending to use it to make the most relevant post?
  IOW: user name checks out!
  
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8. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 16:29 · Score: 0
  
  China is, technically, communist, I suppose. But, I think it's probably more useful to no longer think of the government as "communist". That mental model is too far from the reality to help the world really understand China. I'm NOT an expert here, so take my comments with some caution. But, I think you can look at the Russian system, and even though the names change (communist, and now whatever it is), there's a lot of echos of the Czarist system. In the same way, it is probably better to think of China as just the latest incarnation of the system that's been there for a couple thousand years. Cultures and systems change less quickly than the label of the week. Drop the label, and look at the behavior. It is also worth remembering that China's recovering from the turmoil of the last century and growing back into what it once was. That 50-100 years of turmoil---the only China any of us have ever experienced---is just the country's "having a bad hair week" from the perspective of a 2000+ year old system. From this vantage point, China has centuries and centuries of building a rich and effective culture that has allowed it to largely thrive over a very long time. Some of these issues (censorship, porn, etc) make more sense when you look at them through this lens than that of the more recent (50-100 years) chaos. What's my point? it is just that its probably relevant to be trying to look at China with fresh eyes... forget "communist" or "totalitarian". Think a long standing system with some deep values and (yes, even) respect for the well being of its people. We may not agree with the current answers the government has to questions like this. Heck, the Chinese themselves may not agree with them in 10 years. But, this isn't the stalinist or maoist state, with their active hostility towards their citizens that words like "communist" imply. Try to keep a fresh, open (and critical) mind when watching China.
9. Re:Why? by AmiMoJo · 2017-12-25 17:09 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  China isn't communist. I'm in China right now, it's a monument to consumerism. Capitalism is huge here, people value material possessions and bling more than anything. "Imported" brands (made in China) are the most desirable.
  China is just authoritarian. Not socialist, definitely not that, and not communist in any meaningful way. It's no more communist than the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic.
  
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10. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 17:46 · Score: 0
  
  "Communism does not like the mind of their workers been polluted by decadent outside influences." This may be true but China is not and has not been a communist country for quite sometime. And even back in the day "communism" was just an euphemism for "totalitarian dictatorship" used by Mao and Stalin. And it is often overlooked but China is the US's most successful and non-violent regime change operation in modern history. Nixon kicked off the process of ushering China into the global trade economy in 1972. Since then the China-US trade relationship has generated wealth for both countries.
11. Re:Why? by LeftCoastThinker · 2017-12-25 18:44 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Hint for those not paying attention: China doesn't care about porn.
  They will knock some of the porn sites offline because it gives them a PC cover to restrict political speech that they don't like or that might challenge the oligarchs in the communist party, which is communist in name only, they are just the new ruling class in China and everyone else in China are their surfs.
  
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  If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
12. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 19:22 · Score: 0
  
  so it's basically same as with cp in western
13. Re: Why? by hackwrench · 2017-12-25 19:58 · Score: 1
  
  But this doesn't sound like regulation but am outright ban.
14. Re:Why? by Botnet-of-People · 2017-12-25 20:00 · Score: 1
  
  Not socialist, definitely not that, and not communist in any meaningful way.
  
  To be pedantic (i.e. meaninglessly strict in meaning), no country today is Communist. Communism is supposed to be the end state, when the state and the party wither away, leaving behind a classless society of equals. That's the theory anyway. As for the practice, we can see very fine example of how it's not done. I suspect that only Clarke's proverbial magical technology can bring about this true communist ideal, when every person can 3-D print his or hers every need, from their food to their clothes to their jet packs. At which point we'd see a convergence of the extreme forms of various non-mainstream secular ideologies, from libertarianism to anarchism to Star Trek socialism.
15. Re:Why? by SuricouRaven · 2017-12-25 20:50 · Score: 1
  
  For almost all people, their moral judgements are founded in only two principles: "This makes me feel icky, therefore it is wrong" and "People get punished for this, therefore it is wrong." Pornography makes a lot of people feel icky. It's also an excellent pretext for controlling the internet. Once you have a national censorship system in place to 'protect the children,' it's almost trivial to use it to censor other things too.
16. Re:Why? by SuricouRaven · 2017-12-25 20:58 · Score: 1
  
  I have seen many organisations claim that porn destroys society. I have seen many claim that they have scientific backing for their claim. I have even gone so far as to examine some of this backing, though as a layperson I am not competent to fully analyse the published body of work.
  I have concluded that, though research in the area is very difficult to carry out, there is no solid evidence that widespread availability of pornography is harmful to society. It seems to have surprisingly little impact at all.
  Plus, on some common sense but unscientific reasoning: If pornography were a threat to society, the collapse would have been very apparent shortly after the internet became widely available. The sheer quantity and variety of pornography now available for almost zero effort is so vast it cannot even be measured - if it was going to destroy society, the effects would surely be readily apparent by now.
17. Re:Why? by Hal_Porter · 2017-12-25 22:24 · Score: 1
  
  A better question is "Why did Hillary think dressing in a Mao suit was a good idea?". You'd think her media buddies would have their finger on the pulse of Middle American opinion and advise her against them it.
  
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18. Re:Why? by drinkypoo · 2017-12-25 22:54 · Score: 1
  
  I suspect that only Clarke's proverbial magical technology can bring about this true communist ideal, when every person can 3-D print his or hers every need, from their food to their clothes to their jet packs.
  I suspect that nothing short of that coupled with a benevolent AI which allocates wealth can bring about a true communist ideal, because some humans are always trying to have more than other humans so they can feel like they're better than they are. This is why anarchy leads naturally to feudalism.
  
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19. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 22:57 · Score: 0
  
  One word: power.
  They care because authoritarians love to tell others what to do. In China it's the government, in the West it's liberals. Porn is something many people enjoy and it is easy to stigmatize. It's a great way to assert power over others.
  I don't think governments care about such population imbalances. For example the EU imports millions of migrants who are overwhelmingly male. That's even more of a threat because they have no prospects, socially or professionally, and they care little about the country they are in or its people.
20. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 23:04 · Score: 0
  
  Pornography makes a lot of people feel icky. It's also an excellent pretext for controlling the internet.
  Which is hilarious considering the ones who demonize any bit of skin to "protect the women" are the same who pretend to champion net neutrality.
  Whenever moral judgement is involved hypocrisy is sure to follow.
21. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 23:25 · Score: 0
  
  They are not Communists. The control over their population and worry about effects operations that they have is the same thing that is happening in the US right now, with the fake news, the "Russian hackers/trolls did everything", etc.
  The thing is that they have been dealing with Western propaganda for a while now. Their people are very aware of it and that's why censorship is endorsed by the majority. If you talk to most Chinese they will stand by it, and they will explain that because of the large population, it is very easy to create chaos (that was the reason I heard the most while living there).
22. Re:Why? by Botnet-of-People · 2017-12-26 00:37 · Score: 1
  
  I suspect that only Clarke's proverbial magical technology can bring about this true communist ideal, when every person can 3-D print his or hers every need, from their food to their clothes to their jet packs.
  I suspect that nothing short of that coupled with a benevolent AI which allocates wealth can bring about a true communist ideal, because some humans are always trying to have more than other humans so they can feel like they're better than they are. This is why anarchy leads naturally to feudalism.
  What is wealth but the potential to acquire the things that you want? This would be fully satisfied by universal self-production. Only the truly sociopathic would desire to have more than 10 cars when a single one would do fine. And if I'm happy having one or say at most three different cars (sports, sedan, and off-road), why should I care if the billionaire next door has 365 cars for each day of the year? I think there's a practical limit to human envy and greed. Or to put it in more practical terms, if you're the hungry homeless guy on the street you can look longingly through fast-food restaurant window at the Big Mac on the corner table feasting on two quarter pounders one after the other, but if you're a fellow diner who had just finished your own McChicken lunch (after having become mildly ecoconscious from watching some famous Hollywood actor's documentary about the relationship between cow farts and climate change), does it matter if the guy sitting next to you has a dozen quarter pounders piled on his table?
23. Re:Why? by DNS-and-BIND · 2017-12-26 01:07 · Score: 1
  
  Oh bullshit, China is just taking the capitalist road to achieve socialism. It's as obvious as the nose on your face. Remember Deng Xiaoping and his "reforms"? Of course you don't. The government absolutely does arrest people for having unapproved ideas.
  
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24. Re:Why? by drinkypoo · 2017-12-26 01:20 · Score: 1
  
  I think there's a practical limit to human envy and greed.
  Why?
  
  if you're the hungry homeless guy on the street you can look longingly through fast-food restaurant window at the Big Mac on the corner table feasting on two quarter pounders one after the other, but if you're a fellow diner who had just finished your own McChicken lunch (after having become mildly ecoconscious from watching some famous Hollywood actor's documentary about the relationship between cow farts and climate change), does it matter if the guy sitting next to you has a dozen quarter pounders piled on his table?
  We can ask that question when we run out of hungry homeless guys, especially since there are currently wealthy people avoiding taxes and putting their money into tax havens where it does nothing but accrue more zeroes until they die. If the so-called "job creators" actually invested that money, it actually would create jobs, and then that guy could have a burger.
  
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25. Re:Why? by jbmartin6 · 2017-12-26 01:56 · Score: 1
  
  To me it always seemed like a relic of the old Confucian ethics system, where 'unfilial' sexual activities which didn't contribute to the ongoing survival of the family were bad things. Way way back, becoming a Buddhist monk fell in this category and there was quite a bit of friction with Confucians as a result.
  
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26. Re: Why? by haliburns · 2017-12-26 04:35 · Score: 0
  
  We won't run out of homeless until we run out of meth and re-institutionalize the schizophrenic.
27. Re:Why? by luis_a_espinal · 2017-12-26 23:05 · Score: 1
  
  What I don't understand is, why does China's government even *care* about porn? It's an atheist state that theoretically was spared the neurotic hang-ups Christianity has inflicted on the rest of the world.
  Ditto, for China's official opposition to homosexuality & gay rights. With China's goal of limiting population growth & keeping people content, you'd think it would actively *encourage* guys who like dick to stick to guys... fewer babies, and more women for the men who genuinely *want* a woman.
  China has a *serious* problem with its lopsided male-majority population. If every single woman in China married one man, something like 5-10% of its population would never be able to have a Chinese wife because too many women aborted female babies back in the 70s & 80s because they wanted their one (and only) child to be a son. Those men are a far bigger threat to China's social order than porn and gay people could *ever* be.
  Just because China is an atheist state, that doesn't mean it is an open, liberal culture. In many ways Chinese culture (or CJKV cultures for that matter) lack some of the ridiculous mores of the West (specially Bible Belt mores.) But they are still very macho-oriented, prude societies.
  In the case of China, the CCP still copes with Chinese cultural attitudes and nixes anything that might seem as "destabilizing" even if it is utterly ridiculous from our POV. It's about Confusian harmony, personal liberties are subverted to that.
  When you see the Communist Party doing something in terms of policy, remember that. You cannot analyze it through Western cultural eyeglasses.
28. Re: Why? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-26 23:34 · Score: 0
  
  Yeah blame the rich.
And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 13:58 · Score: 1

We know China does this; that is how their 'legal' system works. There is no news here.
How about some real news, like how many sites the DoJ has shutdown in the past three years?
1. Re:And compared to the USA? by AHuxley · 2017-12-25 14:27 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  In the USA you can publish fiction, non fiction, science fiction, art and music. Books, art, movies, comments, reviews in the USA can contain any number of decadent lifestyles.
  People can buy your books, art, music, review and comment on your past work.
  In the USA you are free to buy and then read a book form Japan, South Korea. No questions later in the USA.
  People in the USA have freedom of speech and freedom after speech.
  No neighborhood committees reporting book reading habits to a Communist party.
  In the USA you are free to talk about an author, to an author, comment on their books, write your own book, sell a book, import a book. No totalitarian communist party to stop your freedom in the USA.
  Communist China has absolute control over their nations internet, VPN use, media and publications.
  The USA has and protects freedom.
  Communism in China has control.
  
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2. Re:And compared to the USA? by kikukikuki · 2017-12-25 14:31 · Score: 1
  
  When DoJ shuts down websites, it is not okay, but when Cloudflare shuts down daily-stormer, it is okay.
3. Re:And compared to the USA? by kikukikuki · 2017-12-25 14:34 · Score: 1
  
  Are Facebook, Tweeter, Cloudflare all under Chinese communist control?
  If no, why then they are entitled to shut down any site / page, and/or close accounts, for no reason?
4. Re:And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 14:37 · Score: 0
  
  I thought the parent post was full of sarcasm... then i got to the end of the post ... and i'm not sure, is it sarcastic or naive?
5. Re: And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 14:38 · Score: 0
  
  Because businesses have freedom of association?
  If they don't like you they don't have to serve you.
6. Re: And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 14:40 · Score: 0
  
  No they did not.
  They stopped hosting them.
  Dailywhatever can host themselves or choose some other host.
7. Re:And compared to the USA? by AHuxley · 2017-12-25 14:42 · Score: 1
  
  Re "for no reason?"
  Western companies and their SJW staff are willing to support the communist legal system if they think the Communist party profits will flow back into their fully complaint company.
  Total censorship is no problem for western companies if they think they will be protected in a Communist nation.
  Once they have shown a good attitude western companies who fully supported communism might also get to block emerging global completion.
  Entering a new market and having a near monopoly? Thats win win in a communist nation.
  
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8. Re:And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 15:00 · Score: 0
  
  Yes, it is okay for Cloudflare to do that because of freedom of association and the fact that being a Nazi shitbag is not a protected class.
9. Re:And compared to the USA? by Desler · 2017-12-25 16:17 · Score: 1
  
  They’re entitled to for the same reason i can tell you to get out of my house and off my lawn. You may have freedom of speech but I don’t have to use my private property as your platform.
10. Re:And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 16:25 · Score: 0
  
  If no, why then they are entitled to shut down any site / page, and/or close accounts, for no reason?
  They are entitled because the first amendment has this thing called “freedom of association.” Also, they can turn anyone away they want based on non-protected class such as being a Nazi shithead. You right-wingers don’t seem very bright when it comes to the Constitution or case law.
11. Re:And compared to the USA? by fustakrakich · 2017-12-25 17:17 · Score: 1
  
  The USA has and protects freedom.
  Communism in China has control.
  And you have Poe's Law
  
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12. Re: And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 17:28 · Score: 0
  
  "shut up and bake the damn cake" would say otherwise. Oh right.. some people are more protected than others.
13. Re: And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 17:40 · Score: 0
  
  How nice that people you like are given protection.. say the gay couple was ting a wedding cake... But those you don't are not.
  Four legs good, two legs bad.
14. Re: And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 18:09 · Score: 0
  
  Yes, being a Nazi shitbag is not a protected class because it is not an innate feature of someone such as gender or skin colo.
15. Re: And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 18:11 · Score: 0
  
  ‘Nazi shitbag’ is not an innate characteristic so our society does not offer it protected status. Cry more, snowflake.
16. Re:And compared to the USA? by SuricouRaven · 2017-12-25 20:41 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Except it doesn't work. China has a history of forcing out foreign companies as soon as a domestic version is available, no matter how much the foreign company bends over backwards to comply with Chinese censorship laws.
17. Re:And compared to the USA? by larryjoe · 2017-12-25 22:18 · Score: 1
  
  You forget the most important part. In the US, there is a sacrosanct freedom to directly and openly criticize the government by the press and individuals, including calling for the removal of the current leaders, the changing of laws, and the callings of assemblies to protest the government. These are by far the most important of the freedoms in the US and why the first amendment is the first in the Bill of Rights.
18. Re:And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 23:28 · Score: 0
  
  People in the USA have freedom of speech and freedom after speech.
  Tell that to Anwar al-Awlaki.
19. Re: And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-26 04:17 · Score: 0
  
  False. Being a mentally incompetent individual, like yourself is a protected class, and is clearly innate... however religious and political (depending on the state) views tend to put one in a protected class as well, ,despite not being innate.
  Or can the Westboro Baptist Church demand a gay baker print "god hates f_gs? and justify it under their religious views, and the bakers refusal being an unlawful act of discrimination against otherwise legal religious practices?
  I know you snowflakes love the idea of protected classes, you feel warm in your safe space, you just never think through the oppression olypmics you have created.
  Odd no outrage when a man pretending to be gay is refused service for a wedding cake as Muslim owned bakeries.... oh right.
20. Re: And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-26 04:25 · Score: 0
  
  I know you like throwing out the label ‘Nazi shitbag’ as an argument.. but have you not noticed how well it falls into the the "Anyone I don't like is a Nazi shitbag, a children's guide to arguments on the internet" style, right?
  though you realize that someone need only say "My daddy was a _______, and his daddy was a _______ we are a proud and long family of _______. So much so that it has been our political and religious view for generations"... and not only do you create sympathy for such a group by vilifying them everywhere they go, but help create a legal basis for them to push for their views.
  Congratulations, you just normalized being a 'white nationalist'!
  It'd be a shame if someone whose fans call him a 'God Emperor' were to crack down on your very clearly spouted hate speech. After all, we can't have actual fascists like you trying to deny people their right to speak or express themselves in constitutionally protected ways... even if you or I may disagree with what they are saying.
21. Re:And compared to the USA? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-26 04:31 · Score: 0
  
  Coming soon to a court room near you... is being a 'Nazi shithead' a protected class?
  Thanks to the hate campaign that you and others seem to be waging... the answer very well may be yes.
22. Re:And compared to the USA? by AHuxley · 2017-12-26 14:15 · Score: 1
  
  Some big western brands still think they can stay in China and won't be domesticated because they did censorship so well.
  
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23. Re: And compared to the USA? by Reverend+Green · 2017-12-26 17:30 · Score: 1
  
  Fake progressive shitheads sure do love big corporations and hate freedom of speech.
China is evil by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 14:26 · Score: 0

China is evil, that is why they care about porn and shut down porn sites.

But when Facebook shuts down porn-related pages, no one says Facebook is evil.
1. Re:China is evil by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 14:50 · Score: 0
  
  They do.
2. Re:China is evil by Desler · 2017-12-25 14:59 · Score: 1
  
  Last time I checked, Facebook doesn’t have the ability to jail and/or execute people. So the level of “evil” Facebook can commit pales in comparispn.
3. Re: China is evil by Reverend+Green · 2017-12-26 17:22 · Score: 1
  
  Facebook is well known for collaboration with the Stasi. They do their part to feed the Gulag.
As proud number one American I can but say this. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 15:28 · Score: 0

Do not be fooled by Sino trickery. I feel Russia is best friend for America.
Come, let us stride forward with zeal and purpose with great President Trump to smash the anti-reactionary forces of the Chinese trickerster !
As proud genuine American born of Boston I say never forget the Mayflower and baseball and cola !
In CCP's definition, "people"... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 15:33 · Score: 0

are those who support CCP. So if you don't agree with CCP? Well, you will no longer be one of the "people", but an "Object of Dictatorship" if you dare to take any action publically. Some people believed that they were belonging to the "people", till someday they found that their "rights" were violated by the gov, then they took actions, and so they became "betrayers" of those who still believe they are "people".
Violence? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 15:45 · Score: 0

I hope we all see where moralizing about "questionable content" leads.
There but for the grace of God* go we.
Free speech matters.
* There is no God.
Not a problem by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 15:58 · Score: 0

As long as I can get my new iPhone X, I'm cool with that.
I've closed more than 13,000 Chinese IP's... by Kernel+Krumpit · 2017-12-25 16:45 · Score: 1

China. Great place but, ... not for the whole weekend. I've blocked more than 13,000 Chinese IP's since the beginning of 2015 for breaking my own website rules. 13,000 plus Chinese IP web blocks. Check it out: http://itnorthwest.ca/deny-by-... Boo Ya.

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May the lies we live by make us strong, healthy, happy and wise - Kurt Vonnegut.
1. Re:I've closed more than 13,000 Chinese IP's... by Kernel+Krumpit · 2017-12-25 16:49 · Score: 1
  
  Rhetorical for sure but why is it so difficult to write a proper post, first or second time, on Slashdot.whatever?
  
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vast majority of people support government efforts by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 17:09 · Score: 0

That's because the vast majority of people are fascists. And why majority rule must must replaced with something more respectful of all people, not just 51%.
Whatever, it doesn't matter what they support. What is important is being able to circumvent all controls over broadcast and accessibility of content. We need ad hoc, P2P networking. Fuck the tyrants!
Re:whah you thinks by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 18:47 · Score: 0

Too many slants.
only 13k? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-25 19:39 · Score: 0

They are closing pr0n sites and only closed down 13000? Is such peanuts news?
Nice grammar on the title by zwarte+piet · 2017-12-25 23:37 · Score: 2

said noone
1. Re: Nice grammar on the title by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-26 02:22 · Score: 0
  
  Noone will says "nice grammar" in the past 3 years!
Chicken Scratch by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-26 00:20 · Score: 0

The Communists have nothing on ICE.
Dissidence by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-26 01:53 · Score: 0

and the vast majority of people support government efforts to clean up cyberspace
at the risk of FICO?
LOL
The system is designed to fuck the individual HARD
LOL by jbmartin6 · 2017-12-26 01:58 · Score: 2

This gave me a chuckle:

the vast majority of people support government efforts to clean up cyberspace, state news agency Xinhua reports.

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1. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-26 13:08 · Score: 0
  
  Sadly, this might well be true.
  People in the west do not value democracy. They consider voting to be a chore, and happily support undemocratic politicians. Why would the Chinese be different? As long as the economy is good an there is money to be made, the last thing that they want is disorder.