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Efforts Grow To Help Students Evaluate What They See Online (apnews.com)

Alarmed by the proliferation of false content online, state lawmakers around the country are pushing schools to put more emphasis on teaching students how to tell fact from fiction. From a report: Lawmakers in several states have introduced or passed bills calling on public school systems to do more to teach media literacy skills that they say are critical to democracy. The effort has been bipartisan but has received little attention despite successful legislation in Washington state, Connecticut, Rhode Island and New Mexico. Several more states are expected to consider such bills in the coming year, including Arizona, New York and Hawaii.

Advocates say the K-12 curriculum has not kept pace with rapid changes in technology. Studies show many children spend hours every day online but struggle to comprehend the content that comes at them. For years, they have pushed schools to incorporate media literacy -- including the ability to evaluate and analyze sources of information -- into lesson plans in civics, language arts, science and other subjects.

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  1. Parents need to as well by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't count on the schools to do this. Parents need to spend a lot of time teaching these skills. An important concept is that just because many people/reporters say the same thing, it doesn't mean its true. I find examples of stuff that gets repeated in multiple news articles that is wrong, then show them how to figure out its wrong. My one kid is a natural skeptic, the other tends to believe everything. Personal traits are a big factor

    1. Re:Parents need to as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most parents do not have those skills themselves.

    2. Re:Parents need to as well by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's even more fundamental than that. People just need to recognise simple things like only using anonymous sources for a story or separating the opinions from the facts.

      Stories in mainstream media are rarely outright fabrications, even rags like the Daily Mail usually have some small amount of truth to them. The bigger problem is that many people can't separate opinion and speculation from factual reporting, leading to them being mislead and screaming "fake news" in equal measure.

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    3. Re:Parents need to as well by StormReaver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This has been a problem since the beginning of human civilization. Christians, Muslims, and everyone else who can't distinguish fact from fiction need to be enrolled in the first classes.

    4. Re:Parents need to as well by dmiller1984 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Anonymous sources aren't always a reason to distrust a story. The Watergate story was broken using anonymous sources and that's just one example of a high-profile story that was anonymously sourced. It is good to treat anonymously-sourced stories with some skepticism, though. FiveThirtyEight had a great article over the summer that gave some tips on when to trust an anonymously-sourced article and when to be more skeptical.

    5. Re:Parents need to as well by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And grandparents. Especially grandparents. My mother-in-law is a wonderful 75 year old lady who believes everything she reads on facebook. She comes from a generation where broadcasting was expensive so if you saw it on TV it had a better chance of being true. This is an almost daily thing.

      She was eating garlic a couple of weeks ago because someone said it would help with blood pressure. When I say "eating garlic" I mean she was peeling the paint in the house when she breathed. Yesterday I couldn't find my brown sugar. Turns out white sugar has all kinds of dangerous chemicals in it and brown sugar is healthy, so she's going to try using that in her coffee. I tried to explain that brown sugar is white sugar with molasses added back in and what she was really seeking is something like turbinado sugar, which is only processed in a centrifuge. Whoever made the facebook video apparently doesn't know the difference, neither does she.

      It's difficult to take someone who doesn't have a working bullshit detector and try to install one in them.

    6. Re:Parents need to as well by arth1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Most parents do not have those skills themselves.

      A fair amount of them are parents because they believed in abstinence, the rhythm method, or a supernatural being who allegedly hates prophylactics.
      By all means, parents helping their children is a great thing, and one that should be the norm. But it's not something that should be counted on, nor the quality of it believed to make a positive difference.

    7. Re:Parents need to as well by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Sure, it's when there are ONLY anonymous sources that there is a problem. Like that story about the banned words at three CDC. Anonymous sources, but confirmed by the CDC on the record and by leaked memos. Watergate was similar, it was more than just an anonymous person's word.

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    8. Re:Parents need to as well by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      Repeat 100x a day: "Opinion != fact"

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    9. Re:Parents need to as well by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It would be nice if it applied both ways.

      Don't want to look at nudey pictures? Don't look at them. Don't want to drink beer? Don't drink it. Don't want to stick your dong in another man's bunghole? Don't stick your dong in another man's bunghole.

      Instead they push for laws saying you can't look at nudey pics, can't drink beer and can't stick your dong in another man's bunghole.

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    10. Re:Parents need to as well by hey! · · Score: 2

      Yes, it's important to confirm that what appears to be multiple sources are actually multiple independent sources. And parents should try to reinforce that. But they have another, more important role, which is laying the groundwork for their children to become critical thinkers. And the single most important lesson that is squarely in the parental wheelhouse is emotional restraint. No you don't hit Johnny because you think he stole your toy, and you don't jump to the conclusion that he stole your toy before you check to see whether you misplaced it.

      Once you believe something because of the way it makes you feel, all the machinery of critical thinking is critically undermined; the output of your reasoning process is corrupted by bad input data.

      Nobody naturally thinks the way you learned to think studying geometry; that's a highly unnatural although very useful skill. People naturally think in more of a Bayesian fashion, weighing the credibility of new evidence in light of their prior beliefs. So what parents need to do is to teach their kids is to believe as little as they can, and to be ruthlessly unsentimental about whatever they do choose the believe in.

      What most parents, and schools, do is the exact opposite. They indoctrinate children in habits of knee-jerk sentimentality and pride. History is probably the worst subject in this regard. Children are taught to believe in pure heroes and villains, so that as adults they can only visualize their political leaders as uncomplicated robots.

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  2. Re:Big problem.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No it doesn't. When it comes to evidence based things like global warming, evolution and other things that have scientific data and facts behind them, conservatives ignore or just deny those facts and keep their beliefs.

    And because their people are making policy, in the long run America will be weak and behind the rest of the World.

    Belief == opinion with no evidence.

  3. Re: Big problem.... by dfm3 · · Score: 2

    Quite the opposite, actually. The tendency is for people to blindly accept even the most vague or ambiguous evidence when it supports the conclusion that we went it to, and to treat with extreme skepticism any evidence that supports a conclusion we don't want to be true.

    There's a name for the phenomenon, confirmation bias.

    For example, look at "creation science". A significant number of evangelical conservatives who treat climate change with skepticism are perfectly willing to unquestionably accept conclusions about the origins of canyons and other geological features that are based on extremely dubious methods of inquiry.

  4. Critical thinking ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

    ,,, should not be a course tailored for a specific subject.

    We're talking about a single "threat," here.

    When another single threat surfaces down the road are we going to teach critical thinking about that?

    Schools should be preparing students in the general art of knowing the difference between bullshit and wild honey.

    That won't happen until teachers are allowed to teach without the guidance of vacuous-minded outsiders like DeVos, batshit crazy right-wing Christian Evangelicals, and the Texas textbook industry (that mentions Blacks slaves as migrant "workers").

    That won't happen until adults with more sense than god gave a piss ant start voting rationally.

    I'm not optimistic.

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  5. A Mathematician Reads the Newspaper by MDMurphy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    https://www.amazon.com/Mathema...

    I gave this book to a young friend when he first left for college. It's a good read and a good teaching aid for critical thinking, especially when it comes to the media. Since it's math-based it's easier to see how "facts" can be presented in a way that distort the "truth".

    Another book I've said would be a great one for high school seniors would be "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter". I found it an enjoyable book that weaved fact and fiction. For students, it might be easy to separate some the extremes as fact ( Lincoln becomes president ) from fiction ( vampires living for centuries ) but there's a lots of other parts that would take knowledge or research. The book was not intended to deceive, so it could be an enjoyable project for students to analyze. It would also be less political than using a news story to learn to separate the wheat from the chaff.

  6. Critical Thinking by techdolphin · · Score: 2

    It is called critical thinking, and it is something that should have been taught before and should be taught now. It will be interesting to see if legislators will be willing to give the schools money for this task.

    Other postings have emphasized the need for parents to address this issue, and I agree with that. Once, when one of my children was around 10, she said something that was not true. Both my wife and I said that was wrong. She said, "I saw it on the internet." We then had a discussion about how to evaluate information on the internet and other places.

  7. Re:critical thinking by hey! · · Score: 2

    It's not that science is too hard for the precious little ones, it's that it's too expensive and controversial for their parents.

    Yes, science can be hard, but it rewards effort. But you know what's hard but not rewarding? Sitting through an overcrowded biology class taught by someone who barely knows the subject, or worse, thinks Adam and Eve rode around on dinosaurs.

    Because of the unique way we do education in this country, the quality of science education you get varies from world class to third world depending on which state you live in, and for states at the bottom which town you live in. In fact the list of the best high schools in the country are dominated by states ranked roughly in the second quartile from the bottom.

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  8. Re:That's the polite version by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The true version is that vast numbers of parents haven't got a clue, and are stupid. Sad but true. By definition Slashdot readers are wildly atypical.

    This is supposed to change that in the next generation.

    I could sum it up into a soundbite to be recited instead of the pledge of allegience:

    "People deliberately lie, grown-ups can be wrong about stuff even when they're not lying to you".

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  9. They used to teach this in school by sycodon · · Score: 4, Informative

    The class was called Critical Thinking.

    I think it was replaced by some kind of "studies" class because Critical Thinking contained too many awkward, yet true, facts.

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    1. Re:They used to teach this in school by cdsparrow · · Score: 2

      This. If they hadn't watered down education in general then this wouldn't be an issue. All it takes is critical thinking and reading a handful of 'news' articles on some subject. Pretty pitiful that you need to read the same story 5+ times before you can begin to form a picture of what's actually happening, but that's where we are.

      Bottom line is fake news isn't fake news, it's propaganda, and people should be able to spot that. Everyone has access to the whole of human knowledge at their fingertips and are too stupid to use it well.

  10. Re:That's the polite version by tsqr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The true version is that vast numbers of parents haven't got a clue, and are stupid. Sad but true. By definition Slashdot readers are wildly atypical.

    Considering the number of commenters who accuse anyone disagreeing with them of being a Russian troll, your assessment of Slashdot readers may be a bit optimistic.

  11. Yet we routinely fall for clickbait here by raymorris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > By definition Slashdot readers are wildly atypical.

    That's probably true. Yet, I often read the articles and find that the headline and summary posted here is very misleading clickbait. In the last several weeks many articles from Verge have been posted here. Most are very misleading, but nobody here questions them.

  12. And US law makers? by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 2

    And what about US law makers who regularly propagate fake news, fictions, and denialism? You know those idiots who say things like women who are raped don't get pregnant or that the science on climate change isn't settled. An irresponsible and poorly informed leadership isn't going to help cultivate a responsible and informed citizenry. Then there's Fox News...

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  13. George Carlin: there's a reason education sucks by Whatsmynickname · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This video explains it all

    There's a reason education sucks

    (Paraphrased) There's a reason education sucks. It's the same reason it will never be fixed. Because the "owners" of this country don't want that. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want people smart enough sitting around the kitchen table thinking about how badly they are getting screwed by a system which threw them overboard 30 years ago. They want obedient workers. They want people just smart enough to run the machines, but dumb enough to passively accept increasingly shittier jobs with lower pay and longer hours.