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People Are Using PornHub To Stream 'Hamilton' and 'Zootopia' (qz.com)

Posted by msmash on from the whatever-floats-your-boat dept.

An anonymous reader shares a report: There's more on PornHub than pornography. People are using the streaming-video site -- a sort of YouTube for pornography where users can upload and watch adult videos -- to stream pirated copies of high-profile titles like the Broadway musical Hamilton and Disney's animated movie Zootopia. Where YouTube has been fighting for years to keep pornography off its site, PornHub now finds itself in the position of having to purge its platform of videos that are decidedly safe for work. The full, 75-minute first act of the historical, Tony Award-winning play, Hamilton -- with its original cast, including creator and star Lin-Manuel Miranda -- is on PornHub, one Twitter user discovered. As the most sought after ticket in town, the play just set a new high-water mark (paywall) for Broadway after taking in $3.8 million at the box office for the week ending Dec. 24.

92 comments

  1. I was just watching Zootopia... by sqorbit · · Score: 5, Funny

    "No Mom, I wasn't watching porn, it was Zootopia, I swear!"

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    1. Re:I was just watching Zootopia... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 0

      "No Mom, I wasn't watching porn, it was Zootopia, I swear!"

      I'm not sure which is worse to be honest.

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    2. Re:I was just watching Zootopia... by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh my god! My son's a Furry!

      Please, please tell me you were just looking for BDSM porn, son!

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    3. Re:I was just watching Zootopia... by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

      It's not porn, it's HBO. . . . (grin)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    4. Re:I was just watching Zootopia... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I thought you were going to link to Sesame Street - now an HBO property...

    5. Re:I was just watching Zootopia... by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      Pr0nHub should have to post a warning:

      SAFE FOR WORK

      to protect people from accidentally clicking on it. If not to protect their eyes, then to save bandwidth.

      I'm writing my congress critter a strongly worded letter that Pr0nHub be required to implement filters for such non-filth.

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      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    6. Re:I was just watching Zootopia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, pirated content is not 'safe for work'. When the workplace is hit with a piracy lawsuit - guess who gets fired?

      'Illegal' is even worse than 'indecent' in the workplace - unless the 'illegal' is good for company profits, that is.

    7. Re:I was just watching Zootopia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It says "Categories: SFW" in the screenshot. If Pornhub allows that category I don't know what they're complaining about.

  2. The mouse will use this to extend copyrights again by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The mouse will use this to extend copyrights again

  3. To be fair by burtosis · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is quite a bit on porn hub that resembles "Zootopia". Maybe some people were viewing it for traditional purposes.

    1. Re:To be fair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want porn that resembles "Zootopia" you better go to e621.net

    2. Re: To be fair by houghi · · Score: 1

      If you are into piracy, scat is not the misicform you should be looking for. Not even on their SFW part. (Yes, that exists. Look at the first few films. CornHub is like ponies on/.)

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    3. Re:To be fair by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      Has this incident increased awareness of PH or sneaky ways to post pirated movies?

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  4. As weird as this sounds. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe Pornhub and YouTube should work together to resolve these issues?

    1. Re:As weird as this sounds. by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      Simpler solution -- get PornHub to delete all videos longer than 20 minutes.

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    2. Re:As weird as this sounds. by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      That would offend guys who can (A) go for longer than 20 minutes, OR (B) can go twice in a row totaling more than 20 minutes. I know of data points of both instances being non zero.

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    3. Re:As weird as this sounds. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off. Some of the best porn is an hour long

    4. Re:As weird as this sounds. by iampiti · · Score: 1

      I don't think Google is willing to share their copyrighted works detecting algorithms with Pornhub (or anyone else). It gives them a competitive advantage

    5. Re:As weird as this sounds. by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      Not following your logic here. Unless you stretch the definitions to count some of the custom code that powers Gmail or whatever, Google isn't in the business of making creative works for consumption. Really, Google would make more money if Zootopia could be uploaded to Youtube by Joe Sixpack and Google could monetize it. These copyright detection algorithms exist because the MPAA and friends require it as a concession to prevent Bigger Lawyer Diplomacy, since the copyright holders understandably aren't too keen on that particular situation. Ultimately, no matter how you slice it, the only competitive advantage is "Google can address copyright claims more effectively than competitors", but since it their customers are advertisers rather than either the uploaders or the copyright holders, and the advertisers get more revenue from more popular uploads, I'd argue that it's a pretty big stretch to call their detection algorithms a competitive advantage in the classical sense of the term.

  5. Content like Zootopia may be safe for work by darthsilun · · Score: 1

    But the URL definitely isn't. Pretty my employer would block it. I'm not going to test the theory either.

    1. Re:Content like Zootopia may be safe for work by burtosis · · Score: 1

      Not sure where you work but I'd expect if a manager burst in on someone with something important, and they were watching cartoons instead of working, they would suddenly find themselves with more time to watch cartoons.

    2. Re:Content like Zootopia may be safe for work by Chrisq · · Score: 2

      Not sure where you work but I'd expect if a manager burst in on someone with something important, and they were watching cartoons instead of working, they would suddenly find themselves with more time to watch cartoons.

      Whereas if he burst in on you watching porn he'd shuffle out again thinking "there but for the grace of God go I".

    3. Re:Content like Zootopia may be safe for work by darthsilun · · Score: 1

      Dunno. There's always lunch break. I used to work with a guy that had movies or other video content on his iPod that he played during the day. It didn't seem to affect his productivity. A long time ago I worked for an outfit where once a week someone would download the latest Dr. Who and they'd show it on the big conference room screen after hours. These days they'd just stream it.

      In the ten years I've been at this company there's been one or two times I've hit a link by mistake that I shouldn't have; site was blocked, nobody stormed to my cubicle demanding to know what I was trying to do. I work for a company that's pretty good that way I guess. Maybe if I "accidentally" hit those links too many times I might get a polite inquiry. As I said, I'm not going to test that theory.

    4. Re:Content like Zootopia may be safe for work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not for my job at the Family Research Council! I have to watch Cartoons to make sure they're not corrupting our youth.

    5. Re:Content like Zootopia may be safe for work by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't be a problem if they were working for Big Train.

    6. Re: Content like Zootopia may be safe for work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was pretty tech-savvy in High School, but my girlfriend at the time was not. Her favorite band was Orgy. One day we were in the computer lab, and she wondered if they her favorite band had a website. "It's probably Orgy(dot)com" she says. I knew it wasn't, but figured it would be an amusing way to kill part of the day. What seemed like every administrator (school, not tech) on campus descended upon us faster than she could close the browser and turn red. Since it was an "honest mistake" we didn't get in any trouble, but the school really wanted to make it my fault. Girlfriend and I had the same story, so they couldn't. It probably helped that her backpack was covered in patches and she was a "good student" even if I wasn't.

  6. You got me at "Zootopia" by Noryungi · · Score: 2

    Sorry, just had to post that.

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    1. Re:You got me at "Zootopia" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's some fan art of Judy Hops at e621.net (NSFW)

  7. This doesn't get said often. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And something of value was lost.

  8. The 'Porn' Version of Zootopia by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    Well, let's just say it's NSFW.

  9. This actually makes sense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone else remember the South Park episode 'Broadway Bro Down' where a bunch of dudes take chicks to see Broadway shows in order to get blow jobs?

    Same concept here, I'm guessing.

  10. Fire TV by AVryhof · · Score: 1

    Well, it looks like they should make an App for the Fire TV to replace YouTube.

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  11. Brilliant by DeBaas · · Score: 2

    "You're streaming our content!!"

    "so how did you notice?"

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  12. Re:If... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You thought wrong

  13. I think there's been a mistake... by hyades1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    PornHub is really slipping. I did a search for "Mad Max: Furry Road" and all I got was some stupid movie with hardly any nudity.

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    1. Re:I think there's been a mistake... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...I did a search for "Mad Max: Furry Road" ...

      You know, *I* would watch that!

    2. Re:I think there's been a mistake... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer baldies myself ... each to his own.

  14. Does this really surprise anyone? by Gaxx · · Score: 1

    PornHub has made it's money by being very lax about copyright enforcement, especially proactive enforcement when compared to services like YouTube. Is it really any surprise that people are using it to host copyright-infringing material that isn't pornographic?

    I suspect that there will be a lack of will from studios like Disney to tackle the problem, as well. At least whilst they think that not doing so keeps their names more separate from 'PornHub' in online searches, the media etc.

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    1. Re:Does this really surprise anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it really any surprise that people are using it to host copyright-infringing material that isn't pornographic?

      you'd be surprised how much porn is actually copyright-infringing

    2. Re:Does this really surprise anyone? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      If there's an industry that knows how to fuck others, it's them.

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    3. Re:Does this really surprise anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you'd be surprised how much porn is actually copyright-infringing

      Some is. Some clips are uploaded (anonymously) by sites like Brazzers (a pay site) to generate demand for the full scenes. And then they scream to get the clips expunged when their ad campaign is over.

  15. The internet sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's too easy to have shit taken down involuntarily. How are we going to defeat this? How can we make it impossible to have anything removed and/or blocked?? We have to end this argument once and for all.

    1. Re:The internet sucks! by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      The DMCA requires that the party requesting the take-down swear under penalty of perjury that they are or they represent the actual copyright owner. How to fix bogus DMCA takedowns is to have a statutory penalty for filing a bogus DMCA takedown. How about making it equal to the statutory ($150,000.00) penalty for copyright infringement?

      That would be one way to prevent good stuff from being sucked off the internet by DMCA trolls.

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    2. Re:The internet sucks! by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Not quite true. The DMCA requires a statement under penalty of perjury that the party filing the takedown is authorised to represent the copyright holder of the work the notice claims is being infringed. It doesn't require any such statement under perjury that the item being taken down is actually infringing. This is intentional, to recognise that there will be errors in identification - when a copyright holder or their enforcement agent goes enforcing they might find thousands of hits on their search, they don't have to manually download and view every file so they can tick the confirmation box. A bit of collateral takedown is considered acceptable, because there's a counter-notice process for that.

    3. Re:The internet sucks! by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      Your entire sentence right after "Not quite true" seems to agree with exactly what I said. Penalty of perjury. That you are, or that you represent the actual copyright owner. I didn't suggest that the penalty of perjury was about whether there was actual infringement. Although I have an opinion that it probably should. (if the copyright owner is unable to determine actual infringement, how is anyone else supposed to be able to determine what is or is not infringing?) Next, I suggested a serious penalty for what I called "bugus DMCA takedown". That means someone, who is NOT the copyright owner, or authorized agent, being seriously punished for representing that they are. This would eliminate A LOT of misuse of the DMCA. People now seem to think that the DMCA is some kind of magic want to make things on the internet go away because you don't like them. Like speech. Opinions. And other things that have little to nothing to do with copyright.

      To offer further opinions, IT SHOULD be up to the copyright owner to correctly identify infringing material. Collateral takedown should absolutely be UNACCEPTABLE. Some idiot copyright owner should not be able to take down YOUR site because they think it might have an infringement, even though it doesn't. I think the counter notice mechanism could be improved.

      Basically if you're going to hand copyright owners a super weapon of mass destruction, they darn well better exercise GREAT responsibility in its use. Other people have legitimate interest in their own use of the internet completely unrelated to hollywood.

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    4. Re:The internet sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't care about the DMCA. Fuck the law. The problem is that it's too easy to take down content. That is what we should deal with. We need bulletproof servers and ad hoc networking that no authority or ISP can touch. With a fascist majority ruining the world's democracies, we need to protect ourselves from them, not argue about the law.

    5. Re:The internet sucks! by PPH · · Score: 1

      the party filing the takedown is authorised to represent the copyright holder

      Meaning that I can hire some intermediary to issue the notices. And if I lie to him about my status concerning the copyright, there's nothing anyone can do. As long as the party filing can state that they honestly believed that I was the owner.

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    6. Re:The internet sucks! by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      The DMCA is not a technical problem. No technical solution will fix it. It is a serious bug in the legislative and judicial process.

      Every good circus should have three rings: Executive, Judicial and Legislative.

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    7. Re:The internet sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every good circus should have three rings: Executive, Judicial and Legislative.

      Yes, each one distracting you from the other. We have grave social problem sustained by a fascist population. Technology is the only thing we have left to protect ourselves from them. And we are going to need something very soon. Otherwise a quick death will be the only escape.

    8. Re:The internet sucks! by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      More importantly, it gives a cover for mistakes.

      Disney could, and may well have, simply ran a google search for 'zootopia full download' and piped the results straight into an automatic notice filer script. If it happens that they also ended up DMCAing out some obscure independent production by the same title, or a one-author webcomic or novel... well, it happens. No loss to Disney. The people who wrote the DMCA did anticipate this situation, along with outright DMCA abuse in cases of clear fair use, so they addressed it by including the counter-notice process. They failed to see just how big the internet would get.

  16. That explains it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There I was, dick in hand, waiting for the good part. It never came. Neither did I.

    1. Re:That explains it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously, you are not one of the (((people))) for which the creation of a banking system is arousing.

  17. westworld has some and it's primtime on HBO by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    westworld has some and it's prime time on HBO. the softcore stuff is late night on hbo zone

  18. Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fact that a play about Alexander Hamilton broke the Broadway record for weekly gross is deliciously ironic.

  19. DMCA? RIAA? MPAA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the first to aclnowledge that we've both been had if we don't investigate the uploader as likely trying to shutdown or over-regulate website content? I distinctly remember that pornstar copyright DMCA takedown claim notices vastly outnumber non-pornographic content protections. Not even Walt Disney intended to create content to lure children to his product cycle and punnish freeloaders as does pornstars.

    I think more plot and character is put on canvas by ink than the subhuman story thatis become a pornfilm. Maybe this is a copyright attack against Pornhub.

  20. Re:The mouse will use this to extend copyrights ag by mark-t · · Score: 1

    There's no need this time 'round. Disney finally figured out that they can achieve the permanent protection status they want by trademarking the mouse instead.

    This means that in countries where some of their works have already entered public domain, you can copy those works freely, but because the character is still protected by trademark, you cannot freely use the character in any of your own (even derivative) works.

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  21. Don't worry, it's not the real movie... by cyn1c77 · · Score: 3, Funny

    You just didn't watch long enough...

  22. Filter on length of movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Surely any movie uploaded where the length is 90 minutes or more should be picked up by the system and an admin can then quickly check it for content?

    Obviously I don't watch pornography, but I don't imagine most videos are more than 2 minutes, which is how I last in bed and, from what I understand, the average?

    1. Re:Filter on length of movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't imagine most videos are more than 2 minutes

      Maybe back in 2005, these days it's not uncommon for videos to run for up to 90 minutes, though the average is about 20 minutes (though in reality about 7 minutes of it is actual fucking/oral/other sexual contact with the rest being setup/pre-fuck banter/position changing).

    2. Re:Filter on length of movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "which is how I last in bed"
      NOT normal

    3. Re:Filter on length of movie? by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      Surely any movie uploaded where the length is 90 minutes or more should be picked up by the system and an admin can then quickly check it for content?

      Life isn't all about Zootopia; your proposed fix would miss an episode of Hogan's Heroes.

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    4. Re:Filter on length of movie? by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      You mean "Hoggin' Heroes". It's in the BBW section.

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    5. Re:Filter on length of movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sequel: Klink's Kinks-The Russian Front (and Rear)

  23. Do they have Doctor Who 2017 Xmas episode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because holy shit you can't find it anywhere...

    1. Re: Do they have Doctor Who 2017 Xmas episode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People are having to mislabel it intentionally, to avoid the censors. Search for it by the episode name, instead if Christmas and year. And try a few of those. I found it label as a 2004 episodes number but the episode name was correct

    2. Re:Do they have Doctor Who 2017 Xmas episode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's on the BBC iPlayer

    3. Re: Do they have Doctor Who 2017 Xmas episode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These antipiracy laws breed and encourage dishonesty. Without them people could just tell the truth. The assembled their own copy through replication. All this antipiracy laws are forcing people to practice dishonesty. Our teachers are lying to our children. Confusing duplication with stealing. When you duplicate you make more . No one is deprieved of any physical property. This dishonesty has infected our courts, media, culture. It's teaching the next generation that statement don't need to be based on anything tangible or real to force obedience from them. It's creating a generation of unthinking, developmentally retarded by design in the name of profit

    4. Re:Do they have Doctor Who 2017 Xmas episode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bro do you even torrent?

    5. Re:Do they have Doctor Who 2017 Xmas episode? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      This does not help anyone living outside the UK now, does it?

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    6. Re:Do they have Doctor Who 2017 Xmas episode? by cstacy · · Score: 1

      Because holy shit you can't find it anywhere...

      Amazon

    7. Re: Do they have Doctor Who 2017 Xmas episode? by PPH · · Score: 1

      Our teachers are lying to our children.

      Won't someone please think of the children? What might happen to some poor little tots who try to view some hot lesbian action on Pornhub and end up watching a Broadway musical instead?

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    8. Re:Do they have Doctor Who 2017 Xmas episode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The xmas special happens to be the first two (HD and SD) search results for "doctor who" over at OMG. If you aren't finding it, you must not be looking very hard.

  24. The 'Money' Version of Zootopia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually I'd be impressed if someone did. It would mean they had the same resources, money, and time as the original to create it.

    1. Re:The 'Money' Version of Zootopia by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      Actually I'd be impressed if someone did. It would mean they had the same resources, money, and time as the original to create it.

      Or it's just being re-enacted by furries.

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  25. I was just watching Zootopia...skin in the game. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heh. In an alternative universe does the mom react in horror that her son is looking at "Fleshies"?

  26. Re:The mouse will use this to extend copyrights ag by michelcolman · · Score: 1

    Great, so now they can bring back the duration of copyright to a more sensible duration like it was before.

  27. Yea but... by Slugster · · Score: 1

    I found something named "Hamilton gets Blacked", I might check that out later

    1. Re:Yea but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hamilton, the Swedish military intelligence officer, did get into a black dry-suit before executing and chain saw chopping party of nuclear weapons smugglers near the border between Norway and Russia, so that just might be it.

  28. Monosodium Glutamate by Zorro · · Score: 1

    https://e621.net/post/index/1/female

    Now you know!

    1. Re:Monosodium Glutamate by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      It's usually polite to stick a giant NSFW tag when linking to a site like that - it's pretty obvious what 'pornhub' means, but 'e621' is meaningless to outsiders.

      For example, NSFW NSFW NSFW https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmcFVJjeL...
      Look carefully and you can find me.

      That site was actually made as a test utility for IPFS, an experimental distributed store protocol.

    2. Re:Monosodium Glutamate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, that's fucking sick.

      https://e621.net/post/index/1/... (NSFW)

      This is much better.

  29. Gay Pornhub? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So shouldn't Hamilton be on the Gay Pornhub?

  30. Re:The mouse will use this to extend copyrights ag by DickBreath · · Score: 1

    Disney can tirademark three circles that even slightly resemble their moose logo.

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  31. Youtube removed the Elsagate stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The pedo's are now trying to attract kids to Pornhub instead.

  32. Zootopia? by Shotgun · · Score: 1

    If Zootopia is the best they've got, I'll just settle for watching the porn.

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  33. Re:I was just watching Zootopia...skin in the game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, it's the one two squashed neolithic butterflies and half a failed Nazi super weapon over. if you see the 'sacllies' you've gone too far.

  34. yep by bobmajdakjr · · Score: 1

    watched both zootopia and moana there lol

    1. Re:yep by BobSteinVisiBone · · Score: 1

      Where? I want to download Zootopia. All I could find were x-rated parodies.

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  35. I Are Outraged! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hamilton? Zootopia?!

    Get that filth off of my pornstream!! I refuse to have respectable content sullying my perversions!