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Ice Cliffs Spotted On Mars (sciencemag.org)
sciencehabit writes from a report via Science Magazine: Scientists have discovered eight cliffs of nearly pure water ice on Mars, some of which stand nearly 100 meters tall. The discovery points to large stores of underground ice buried only a meter or two below the surface at surprisingly low martian latitudes, in regions where ice had not yet been detected. Each cliff seems to be the naked face of a glacier, tantalizing scientists with the promise of a layer-cake record of past martian climates and space enthusiasts with a potential resource for future human bases. Scientists discovered the cliffs with a high-resolution camera on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, revisiting the sites to show their subsequent retreat as a result of vaporization, and their persistence in the martian summer. The hunt should now be on, scientists say, for similar sites closer to the equator. The findings have been reported in this week's issue of Science.
Frosty cliffs
Computer people are autistic.
Stop saying there's water on Mars and then providing no PROOF.
Where is the *****PROOF***** of water on Mars.
Either put up or shut up. Point to an ***exact*** location of water or don't waste my fucking time.
Is the ice in a good location to explore space from later?
Send humans to Mars.
Get them using the water with more space exploring supplies sent from earth.
A nuclear reactor and rocket fuel factory.
Extract water to create more rocket fuel.
A Project Iceworm for Mars? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Kuato : Start the reactor. Free Mars...
Start the reactor Quaid!
In before some nutter lib comes in and claims some global warming BS.
where are the aliens??? fakk off with the ice. i have Ice in my freezer. Nothing special about that.
He may consider sending a few gas guzling beaters to mars... you know warm the place up :)
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maybe, just maybe, this Mr. Mars may have been in a similar situation as our globe and messed up climate-wise similar what is going on on our ball with the speculative point of no return which is not always controllable or fitting in people's brains very well that some ideas are not just very dumb but highly dangerous.
I'm curious. Ice has been found on Luna's poles (it may need some processing but it's there), so why does Mars seem to be the go-to place for human colonization? Luna would be far faster/easier to get shipments to/from Earth, much faster communication times, no waiting for optimal interplanetary distance windows etc.
The ice being on the poles shouldn't be as much of a problem. Maneuvering a spacecraft to land on Luna's pole should be far less delta-V than landing it on Mars (I presume). The ice could be pipelined (~1,500 mile pipe, world's longest is ~2,350 miles) to an equator outpost, although given it's ~27kelvin at the poles, heating it to liquid and pumping it would likely be infeasible. However, ice could be electrolyzed into hydrogen and oxygen and those could be easily pumped, then separated or burned for water as needed. I'll let someone else do the math on which of electrolysis or melting would require less energy (although presumably we'd use most of the water for electrolysis into rocket fuel anyway, as water recyclers are reasonably (~85%) efficient.)
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
A one meter by 50mm core sample would mass about 2 kg. The navy has railguns now that can accelerate 10 kg to about 2.4 km/sec. According to this Delta V map, delta v to reach low Mars orbit is about 3.8 km/sec. Considering that it wouldn't have to be built to withstand use in warfare, it might not be that much harder than what we've already achieved to build a railgun that could launch an ice core to low Mars orbit.
Landing on Mars is more challenging than on the moon. High gravity and a thin atmosphere means you need a heat shield to deorbit, but you still can't ltouch down using parachutes.
On the moon an unshielded light craft can land with little fuel use.
On Earth a well-shielded ballistic craft can land using only heat shield and parachutes.
On Mars you need to slow down using both heat shield and parachutes, and then land with rockets (or airbags if you're not squishy).
Total Recall is true then! Hastala Vistala baby!
But it's obviously Aliens. Why else would they store Ice?
With a few careful observations, you can begin to understand that the
heliocentric model is a lie, and you live on a flat plane.
recap:
Science says the tilt of the Earth gives less sunlight to the North this time of year. But have you noticed that the sun also appears weaker, and yellower? The tilt only moves it towards the south, and gives it a shorter, lower track through the sky. But the amount of atmosphere traversed is the same for any light coming up from the horizon -- East or South. So what makes the light itself appear weaker in Winter? There should be the same amount of atmosphere to cross whether the Sun rises due East in the summer, or South-East in the winter.
So why is the winter Sun weak and yellower than the summer sun at the same altitude in the sky?
Space is fake. The Earth is flat. The eclipses prove it.
Solar Eclipse: https://vimeo.com/230976895
Light of the chromosphere can be observed on the back of the moon. Allais Effect
Lunar Eclipse: https://vimeo.com/92378881
Shadow is black, then changes color to reddish.
Next lunar eclipse: January 30/31, 2018 mid-to-west North America
Crampons: check ....uh. Stand by Houston.
Ice axes: check
rope, ice screws, pro and harnesses: check
clothing and helmet: check
beer: check
SpaceX Big Falcon:
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.